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Plato · Timaeus §37-38

Cognition of the World Soul and Creation of Time

Passage 11 of 41 · Greek

Summary

The mechanism of the world soul's cognition is explained, showing how its movements yield opinions and true knowledge. Additionally, the Demiurge creates 'time' as a moving image of eternity, generating the sun, moon, and planets to define and preserve its measures.

§37ΤΙ. καὶ τὸ μὲν δὴ σῶμα ὁρατὸν οὐρανοῦ γέγονεν, αὐτὴ δὲ ἀόρατος μέν, λογισμοῦ δὲ μετέχουσα καὶ ἁρμονίας ψυχή, τῶν νοητῶν ἀεί τε ὄντων ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀρίστου ἀρίστη γενομένη τῶν γεννηθέντων.
Timaeus: And while the body of the heaven has been generated visible, she, the soul, is invisible, yet participating in reason and harmony, generated by the best of the eternally existing intelligible things as the best of generated things.
ἅτε οὖν ἐκ τῆς ταὐτοῦ καὶ τῆς θατέρου φύσεως ἔκ τε οὐσίας τριῶν τούτων συγκραθεῖσα μοιρῶν, καὶ ἀνὰ λόγον μερισθεῖσα καὶ συνδεθεῖσα, αὐτή τε ἀνακυκλουμένη πρὸς αὑτήν, ὅταν οὐσίαν σκεδαστὴν ἔχοντός τινος ἐφάπτηται καὶ ὅταν ἀμέριστον, λέγει κινουμένη διὰ πάσης ἑαυτῆς ὅτῳ τʼ ἄν τι ταὐτὸν ᾖ καὶ ὅτου ἂν ἕτερον, πρὸς ὅτι τε μάλιστα καὶ ὅπῃ καὶ ὅπως καὶ ὁπότε συμβαίνει κατὰ τὰ γιγνόμενά τε πρὸς ἕκαστον ἕκαστα εἶναι καὶ πάσχειν καὶ πρὸς τὰ κατὰ ταὐτὰ ἔχοντα ἀεί.
Therefore, since she has been blended from these three portions—the nature of the Same, the Other, and Existence—and divided and bound together in proportion, and revolves back upon herself, whenever she touches anything that has a dispersed existence or anything that is indivisible, she is moved throughout her whole self and declares that with which something is the same and from which it is other, and in what relation, where, how, and when it happens that each of these things exists and is affected in relation to each thing, both in the case of things that become and in the case of things that are always in the same state.
λόγος δὲ ὁ κατὰ ταὐτὸν ἀληθὴς γιγνόμενος περί τε θάτερον ὂν καὶ περὶ τὸ ταὐτόν, ἐν τῷ κινουμένῳ ὑφʼ αὑτοῦ φερόμενος ἄνευ φθόγγου καὶ ἠχῆς, ὅταν μὲν περὶ τὸ αἰσθητὸν γίγνηται καὶ ὁ τοῦ θατέρου κύκλος ὀρθὸς ἰὼν εἰς πᾶσαν αὐτοῦ τὴν ψυχὴν διαγγείλῃ, δόξαι καὶ πίστεις γίγνονται βέβαιοι καὶ ἀληθεῖς, ὅταν δὲ αὖ περὶ τὸ λογιστικὸν ᾖ καὶ ὁ τοῦ ταὐτοῦ κύκλος εὔτροχος ὢν αὐτὰ μηνύσῃ, νοῦς ἐπιστήμη τε ἐξ ἀνάγκης ἀποτελεῖται·
And this discourse, which is equally true whether it is about the Other or about the Same, being carried on without speech or sound within that which is moved by itself—whenever it is about the sensible, and the circle of the Other, running straight, announces it throughout her entire soul, firm and true opinions and beliefs arise; but whenever, on the other hand, it is about the rational, and the circle of the Same, running smoothly, makes them known, intellect and knowledge are necessarily accomplished.
τούτω δὲ ἐν ᾧ τῶν ὄντων ἐγγίγνεσθον, ἄν ποτέ τις αὐτὸ ἄλλο πλὴν ψυχὴν εἴπῃ, πᾶν μᾶλλον ἢ τἀληθὲς ἐρεῖ.
And if anyone should ever call that in which these two arise among existing things anything other than the soul, he will speak anything rather than the truth.
ὡς δὲ κινηθὲν αὐτὸ καὶ ζῶν ἐνόησεν τῶν ἀιδίων θεῶν γεγονὸς ἄγαλμα ὁ γεννήσας πατήρ, ἠγάσθη τε καὶ εὐφρανθεὶς ἔτι δὴ μᾶλλον ὅμοιον πρὸς τὸ παράδειγμα ἐπενόησεν ἀπεργάσασθαι.
And when the father who generated it perceived that it was moved and living, a generated image of the eternal gods, he was filled with admiration, and in his joy he thought of making it still more like its model.
καθάπερ οὖν αὐτὸ τυγχάνει ζῷον ἀίδιον ὄν, καὶ τόδε τὸ πᾶν οὕτως εἰς δύναμιν ἐπεχείρησε τοιοῦτον ἀποτελεῖν.
Just as, then, the model is an eternal living being, so he attempted to make this universe also such, as far as possible.
ἡ μὲν οὖν τοῦ ζῴου φύσις ἐτύγχανεν οὖσα αἰώνιος, καὶ τοῦτο μὲν δὴ τῷ γεννητῷ παντελῶς προσάπτειν οὐκ ἦν δυνατόν· εἰκὼ δʼ ἐπενόει κινητόν τινα αἰῶνος ποιῆσαι, καὶ διακοσμῶν ἅμα οὐρανὸν ποιεῖ μένοντος αἰῶνος ἐν ἑνὶ κατʼ ἀριθμὸν ἰοῦσαν αἰώνιον εἰκόνα, τοῦτον ὃν δὴ χρόνον ὠνομάκαμεν.
Now the nature of that living being was eternal, and this indeed it was impossible to attach completely to that which is generated; but he thought of making a moving image of eternity, and while ordering the heaven, he made, of eternity remaining in unity, an eternal image moving according to number, which very thing we have named time.
ἡμέρας γὰρ καὶ νύκτας καὶ μῆνας καὶ ἐνιαυτούς, οὐκ ὄντας πρὶν οὐρανὸν γενέσθαι, τότε ἅμα ἐκείνῳ συνισταμένῳ τὴν γένεσιν αὐτῶν μηχανᾶται· ταῦτα δὲ πάντα μέρη χρόνου, καὶ τό τʼ ἦν τό τʼ ἔσται χρόνου γεγονότα εἴδη, ἃ δὴ φέροντες λανθάνομεν ἐπὶ τὴν ἀίδιον οὐσίαν οὐκ ὀρθῶς.
For days and nights and months and years, which did not exist before the heaven was generated, he then devised their generation at the same time as the heaven was being constructed; and all these are parts of time, and 'was' and 'will be' are generated forms of time, which we, carrying over to the eternal existence, wrongly use without noticing.
§38ΤΙ. λέγομεν γὰρ δὴ ὡς ἦν ἔστιν τε καὶ ἔσται, τῇ δὲ τὸ ἔστιν μόνον κατὰ τὸν ἀληθῆ λόγον προσήκει, τὸ δὲ ἦν τό τʼ ἔσται περὶ τὴν ἐν χρόνῳ γένεσιν ἰοῦσαν πρέπει λέγεσθαι—κινήσεις γάρ ἐστον, τὸ δὲ ἀεὶ κατὰ ταὐτὰ ἔχον ἀκινήτως οὔτε πρεσβύτερον οὔτε νεώτερον προσήκει γίγνεσθαι διὰ χρόνου οὐδὲ γενέσθαι ποτὲ οὐδὲ γεγονέναι νῦν οὐδʼ εἰς αὖθις ἔσεσθαι, τὸ παράπαν τε οὐδὲν ὅσα γένεσις τοῖς ἐν αἰσθήσει φερομένοις προσῆψεν, ἀλλὰ χρόνου ταῦτα αἰῶνα μιμουμένου καὶ κατʼ ἀριθμὸν κυκλουμένου γέγονεν εἴδη—καὶ πρὸς τούτοις ἔτι τὰ τοιάδε, τό τε γεγονὸς εἶναι γεγονὸς καὶ τὸ γιγνόμενον εἶναι γιγνόμενον, ἔτι τε τὸ γενησόμενον εἶναι γενησόμενον καὶ τὸ μὴ ὂν μὴ ὂν εἶναι, ὧν οὐδὲν ἀκριβὲς λέγομεν.
Timaeus: For we say indeed that it 'was', 'is', and 'will be', but to it the 'is' alone belongs according to the true account, whereas 'was' and 'will be' are properly said of the generation that proceeds in time—for they are motions, and that which is always in the same state without movement cannot properly become either older or younger through time, nor ever to have become, nor to have become now, nor to be about to be in the future, nor indeed any of the things that generation has attached to things moving in sensation, but these have arisen as forms of time which imitates eternity and circles according to number—and in addition to these, also such statements as: that what has become is become, and what is becoming is becoming, and further that what will become is will become, and that what is not is non-existent, none of which we state accurately.
περὶ μὲν οὖν τούτων τάχʼ ἂν οὐκ εἴη καιρὸς πρέπων ἐν τῷ παρόντι διακριβολογεῖσθαι.
However, concerning these matters, perhaps it might not be a fitting time at present to discuss them in exact detail.
χρόνος δʼ οὖν μετʼ οὐρανοῦ γέγονεν, ἵνα ἅμα γεννηθέντες ἅμα καὶ λυθῶσιν, ἄν ποτε λύσις τις αὐτῶν γίγνηται, καὶ κατὰ τὸ παράδειγμα τῆς διαιωνίας φύσεως, ἵνʼ ὡς ὁμοιότατος αὐτῷ κατὰ δύναμιν ᾖ· τὸ μὲν γὰρ δὴ παράδειγμα πάντα αἰῶνά ἐστιν ὄν, ὁ δʼ αὖ διὰ τέλους τὸν ἅπαντα χρόνον γεγονώς τε καὶ ὢν καὶ ἐσόμενος.
At any rate, time has become along with the heaven, so that, having been generated together, they might also be dissolved together, if ever any dissolution of them should occur, and it was made according to the model of the everlasting nature, so that it might be as like to it as possible; for the model exists for all eternity, while the other, on the other hand, through all time has been, is, and will be.
ἐξ οὖν λόγου καὶ διανοίας θεοῦ τοιαύτης πρὸς χρόνου γένεσιν, ἵνα γεννηθῇ χρόνος, ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη καὶ πέντε ἄλλα ἄστρα, ἐπίκλην ἔχοντα πλανητά, εἰς διορισμὸν καὶ φυλακὴν ἀριθμῶν χρόνου γέγονεν·
From this plan and thought of god, then, directed toward the generation of time, in order that time might be generated, the sun and moon and five other stars, which have the name of planets, were generated for the defining and preserving of the numbers of time.
σώματα δὲ αὐτῶν ἑκάστων ποιήσας ὁ θεὸς ἔθηκεν εἰς τὰς περιφορὰς ἃς ἡ θατέρου περίοδος ᾔειν, ἑπτὰ οὔσας ὄντα ἑπτά, σελήνην μὲν εἰς τὸν περὶ γῆν πρῶτον, ἥλιον δὲ εἰς τὸν δεύτερον ὑπὲρ γῆς, ἑωσφόρον δὲ καὶ τὸν ἱερὸν Ἑρμοῦ λεγόμενον εἰς τάχει μὲν ἰσόδρομον ἡλίῳ κύκλον ἰόντας, τὴν δὲ ἐναντίαν εἰληχότας αὐτῷ δύναμιν· ὅθεν καταλαμβάνουσίν τε καὶ καταλαμβάνονται κατὰ ταὐτὰ ὑπʼ ἀλλήλων ἥλιός τε καὶ ὁ τοῦ Ἑρμοῦ καὶ ἑωσφόρος.
And having made the bodies of each of them, god placed them in the revolutions which the circuit of the Other was going, being seven orbits for the seven stars, the moon indeed into the first orbit around the earth, and the sun into the second above the earth, and the morning star and the one called sacred to Hermes into orbits that run at equal speed with the sun, but have received a power contrary to it; whence they overtake and are overtaken in the same way by one another, namely the sun and the star of Hermes and the morning star.
τὰ δʼ ἄλλα οἷ δὴ καὶ διʼ ἃς αἰτίας ἱδρύσατο, εἴ τις ἐπεξίοι πάσας, ὁ λόγος πάρεργος ὢν πλέον ἂν ἔργον ὧν ἕνεκα λέγεται παράσχοι.
And as for the other stars, where indeed and for what causes he established them, if one were to go through them all, the account, being a subordinate matter, would present more labor than the main subject for the sake of which it is spoken.
ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ἴσως τάχʼ ἂν κατὰ σχολὴν ὕστερον τῆς ἀξίας τύχοι διηγήσεως·
These things indeed may perhaps at leisure later obtain their worthy exposition;

Notes

  1. 37aτῶν νοητῶν ἀεί τε ὄντων ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀρίστου ἀρίστη γενομένη τῶν γεννηθέντων — The genitive phrase τῶν νοητῶν ἀεί τε ὄντων ('of the eternally existing intelligible things') can grammatically be construed either (1) with the following ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀρίστου ('by the best of the eternally existing intelligible things', i.e., the Demiurge) or (2) in parallel with τῶν γεννηθέντων, modifying ἀρίστη ('the best of the generated things, made from the intelligible things'). Here, interpretation (1) is adopted, matching Plato's designation of the Demiurge as the best of intelligible or causal beings.
  2. 37aὅταν οὐσίαν σκεδαστὴν ἔχοντός τινος ἐφάπτηται καὶ ὅταν ἀμέριστον — The phrase οὐσίαν σκεδαστὴν ἔχοντος ('having a scattered/dispersed existence') refers back to the 'divisible existence that becomes around bodies' mentioned in 35a. It is contrasted with ἀμέριστον ('the indivisible'), which corresponds to the 'indivisible existence' in 35a. This highlights the dual object of the soul's cognition (sensible vs. intelligible).
  3. 37bλόγος δὲ ὁ κατὰ ταὐτὸν ἀληθὴς γιγνόμενος ... ἐν τῷ κινουμένῳ ὑφʼ αὑτοῦ φερόμενος — The sentence begins with the nominative subject λόγος ('discourse'), but the subsequent clauses have different subjects (δόξαι καὶ πίστεις and νοῦς ἐπιστήμη τε) with their own verbs (γίγνονται and ἀποτελεῖται). This grammatical structure is an anacoluthon (nominative absolute), emphasizing that this self-moving discourse itself manifests in these two different cognitive states depending on the objects it touches.
  4. 38aκινήσεις γάρ ἐστον — The verb ἐστον is the third-person dual of εἰμί, and its subject consists of the two temporal terms mentioned just before, ἦν ('was') and ἔσται ('will be'). The use of the dual highlights that these two temporal tenses are 'motions' in contrast to the motionless eternal present.
  5. 38bτό τε γεγονὸς εἶναι γεγονὸς — The expression 'that what has become is (εἶναι) become' criticizes the incorrect application of the present copula/verb 'to be' (εἶναι) to past or future events, or to non-existence (μὴ ὄν). Plato points out that in a strict ontological sense, 'is' (ἔστιν) belongs only to the eternal, unchanging existence, and using it for temporal or generated things is not strictly accurate.

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Plato, Timaeus §37-38. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg031.humanitext-grc2:37-38

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