§168ΣΩ.
ἀδικεῖν δʼ ἐστὶν ἐν τῷ τοιούτῳ, ὅταν τις μὴ χωρὶς μὲν ὡς ἀγωνιζόμενος τὰς διατριβὰς ποιῆται, χωρὶς δὲ διαλεγόμενος, καὶ ἐν μὲν τῷ παίζῃ τε καὶ σφάλλῃ καθʼ ὅσον ἂν δύνηται, ἐν δὲ τῷ διαλέγεσθαι σπουδάζῃ τε καὶ ἐπανορθοῖ τὸν προσδιαλεγόμενον, ἐκεῖνα μόνα αὐτῷ ἐνδεικνύμενος τὰ σφάλματα, ἃ αὐτὸς ὑφʼ ἑαυτοῦ καὶ τῶν προτέρων συνουσιῶν παρεκέκρουστο.
SOCRATES: Playing the unfair part in such a matter is when someone does not conduct his discussions separately as one who is competing, and separately as one who is conversing, and in the former case plays and trips people up as much as he can, but in conversing is serious and corrects the one who is talking with him, pointing out to him only those errors in which he was misled by himself and his former associations.
ἂν μὲν γὰρ οὕτω ποιῇς, ἑαυτοὺς αἰτιάσονται οἱ προσδιατρίβοντές σοι τῆς αὑτῶν ταραχῆς καὶ ἀπορίας ἀλλʼ οὐ σέ, καὶ σὲ μὲν διώξονται καὶ φιλήσουσιν, αὑτοὺς δὲ μισήσουσι καὶ φεύξονται ἀφʼ ἑαυτῶν εἰς φιλοσοφίαν, ἵνʼ ἄλλοι γενόμενοι ἀπαλλαγῶσι τῶν οἳ πρότερον ἦσαν·
For if you do this, those who spend their time with you will blame themselves for their own confusion and perplexity, but not you; they will pursue you and love you, but they will hate themselves and flee from themselves into philosophy, so that by becoming other than they were, they may be rid of those who they were before.
ἐὰν δὲ τἀναντία τούτων δρᾷς ὥσπερ οἱ πολλοί, τἀναντία συμβήσεταί σοι καὶ τοὺς συνόντας ἀντὶ φιλοσόφων μισοῦντας τοῦτο τὸ πρᾶγμα ἀποφανεῖς ἐπειδὰν πρεσβύτεροι γένωνται.
But if you do the opposite of this, as the many do, the opposite will happen to you, and you will make your associates hate this pursuit instead of becoming philosophers when they grow older.
ἐὰν οὖν ἐμοὶ πείθῃ, ὃ καὶ πρότερον ἐρρήθη, οὐ δυσμενῶς οὐδὲ μαχητικῶς ἀλλʼ ἵλεῳ τῇ διανοίᾳ συγκαθεὶς ὡς ἀληθῶς σκέψῃ τί ποτε λέγομεν, κινεῖσθαί τε ἀποφαινόμενοι τὰ πάντα, τό τε δοκοῦν ἑκάστῳ τοῦτο καὶ εἶναι ἰδιώτῃ τε καὶ πόλει.
If, therefore, you follow my advice, as was also said before, not with ill-will or in a combative spirit, but gently letting yourself down with a friendly mind, you will truly examine what it is we say, when we declare that all things are in motion, and that what seems to each person, this also is for him, both for the individual and for the city.
καὶ ἐκ τούτων ἐπισκέψῃ εἴτε ταὐτὸν εἴτε καὶ ἄλλο ἐπιστήμη καὶ αἴσθησις, ἀλλʼ οὐχ ὥσπερ ἄρτι ἐκ συνηθείας ῥημάτων τε καὶ ὀνομάτων, ἃ οἱ πολλοὶ ὅπῃ ἂν τύχωσιν ἕλκοντες ἀπορίας ἀλλήλοις παντοδαπὰς παρέχουσι.
And from these things you will examine whether knowledge and perception are the same or different, and not, as just now, from the habitual usage of words and names, which the many drag about in whatever way it happens, causing all kinds of perplexities for one another.
ταῦτα, ὦ Θεόδωρε, τῷ ἑταίρῳ σου εἰς βοήθειαν προσηρξάμην κατʼ ἐμὴν δύναμιν σμικρὰ ἀπὸ σμικρῶν· εἰ δʼ αὐτὸς ἔζη, μεγαλειότερον ἂν τοῖς αὑτοῦ ἐβοήθησεν.
These things, Theodorus, I have contributed as a help to your companion according to my ability, small resources from a small source; but if he were alive himself, he would have helped his own doctrines in a grander style.
ΘΕΟ. παίζεις, ὦ Σώκρατες· πάνυ γὰρ νεανικῶς τῷ ἀνδρὶ βεβοήθηκας.
THEODORUS: You are joking, Socrates; for you have helped the man in a very vigorous manner.
ΣΩ. εὖ λέγεις, ὦ ἑταῖρε. καί μοι εἰπέ·
SOCRATES: Well spoken, my friend.
ἐνενόησάς που λέγοντος ἄρτι τοῦ Πρωταγόρου καὶ ὀνειδίζοντος ἡμῖν ὅτι πρὸς παιδίον τοὺς λόγους ποιούμενοι τῷ τοῦ παιδὸς φόβῳ ἀγωνιζοίμεθα εἰς τὰ ἑαυτοῦ, καὶ χαριεντισμόν τινα ἀποκαλῶν, ἀποσεμνύνων δὲ τὸ πάντων μέτρον, σπουδάσαι ἡμᾶς διεκελεύσατο περὶ τὸν αὑτοῦ λόγον;
And tell me: did you notice that Protagoras was just now saying and reproaching us because we made our arguments toward a child, and were competing against his doctrines using the child's fear, and calling this a sort of mere joke, while solemnizing his 'measure of all things', he urged us to be serious about his argument?
ΘΕΟ. πῶς γὰρ οὐκ ἐνενόησα, ὦ Σώκρατες;
THEODORUS: How could I not notice it, Socrates?
ΣΩ. τί οὖν;
SOCRATES: What then?
κελεύεις πείθεσθαι αὐτῷ;
Do you bid us obey him?
ΘΕΟ. σφόδρα γε.
THEODORUS: Very much so.
ΣΩ. ὁρᾷς οὖν ὅτι τάδε πάντα πλὴν σοῦ παιδία ἐστίν.
SOCRATES: You see, then, that all these here, except you, are children.
εἰ οὖν πεισόμεθα τῷ ἀνδρί, ἐμὲ καὶ σὲ δεῖ ἐρωτῶντάς τε καὶ ἀποκρινομένους ἀλλήλοις σπουδάσαι αὐτοῦ περὶ τὸν λόγον, ἵνα μὴ τοῦτό γε ἔχῃ ἐγκαλεῖν, ὡς παίζοντες πρὸς μειράκια διεσκεψάμεθʼ αὐτοῦ τὸν λόγον.
If, therefore, we are to obey the man, you and I must, by questioning and answering each other, be serious about his argument, so that he may not have this at least to charge against us, that joking with youngsters we examined his doctrine.
ΘΕΟ. τί δʼ;
THEODORUS: What?
οὐ πολλῶν τοι Θεαίτητος μεγάλους πώγωνας ἐχόντων ἄμεινον ἂν ἐπακολουθήσειε λόγῳ διερευνωμένῳ;
Would not Theatetus follow a investigated argument better than many who have large beards?