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Cicero · Letters to Atticus §11.23.1-11.23.3

Tullia's Impending Divorce and Family Matters

Passage 269 of 461 · Latin

Summary

Cicero consults Atticus regarding his correspondence with Camillus, family news from Rhodes, and plans for a divorce to relieve the financial and emotional distress of his daughter Tullia, while expressing his wish for a swift reunion.

§11.23.1quod ad te scripseram ut cum Camillo communicares, de eo Camillus mihi scripsit te secum locutum.
Regarding what I had written to you, that you should consult with Camillus, Camillus has written to me that you have spoken with him about it.
tuas litteras exspectabam; nisi illud quidem mutari, si aliter est et oportet, non video posse.
I was expecting a letter from you; although indeed, I do not see that that matter can be changed, if it is otherwise and must be so.
sed cum ab illo accepissem litteras, desideravi tuas (etsi putabam te certiorem factum non esse), modo valeres; scripseras enim te quodam valetudinis genere temptari.
But when I received the letter from him, I longed for yours (although I thought you had not been informed), provided only that you were well; for you had written that you were being troubled by some kind of ill health.
§11.23.2Agusius quidam Rhodo venerat viii Idus Quint.
A certain Agusius had come from Rhodes on the eighth day before the Ides of July.
is nuntiabat Quintum filium ad Caesarem profectum iiii Kal. Iun. , Philotimum Rhodum pridie eum diem venisse, habere ad me litteras.
He brought news that the son Quintus had set out to Caesar on the fourth day before the Kalends of June, and that Philotimus had come to Rhodes on the day before that date, carrying a letter for me.
ipsum Agusium audies.
You will hear Agusius himself.
sed tardius iter faciebat.
But he was making his journey rather slowly.
eo feci ut celeriter eunti darem.
For that reason, I made sure to give my letter to someone traveling quickly.
quid sit in iis litteris nescio, sed mihi valde Quintus frater gratulatur.
What is in those letters I do not know, but my brother Quintus congratulates me warmly.
equidem in meo tanto peccato nihil ne cogitatione quidem adsequi possum quod mihi tolerabile possit esse.
For my part, in my so great error, I cannot even in thought conceive of anything that could be tolerable for me.
§11.23.3te oro ut de hac misera cogites et illud de quo ad te proxime scripsi, ut aliquid conficiatur ad inopiam propulsandam, et etiam de ipso testamento.
I entreat you to think about this poor woman, and about that matter which I wrote to you recently, so that something may be done to drive away want, and also about the will itself.
illud quoque vellem antea sed omnia timuimus.
I would have wished that other thing also earlier, but we feared everything.
Melius quidem in pessimis nihil fuit discidio.
Indeed, in the worst of circumstances, nothing was better than divorce.
aliquid fecissemus ut viri vel tabularum novarum nomine vel nocturnarum expugnationum vel Metellae vel omnium malorum; nec res perisset et videremur aliquid doloris virilis habuisse.
We should have done something like men, whether under the pretext of new account-books, or night attacks, or Metella, or of all evils; nor would our property have been lost, and we should have seemed to possess some manly resentment.
memini omnino tuas litteras sed et tempus illud; etsi quidvis praestitit.
I remember your letter perfectly, but also that time; although any choice whatsoever would have been preferable.
nunc quidem ipse videtur denuntiare; audimus enim de statua Clodi.
Now indeed he himself seems to declare it; for we hear about the statue of Clodius.
generumne nostrum potissimum vel hoc vel tabulas novas? placet mihi igitur et item tibi nuntium remitti.
Is it possible that our son-in-law should favor this of all things, or new account-books? Therefore, I agree, and you too I think, that notice of divorce should be sent.
petet fortasse tertiam pensionem.
He will perhaps demand the third instalment.
considera igitur tumne cum ab ipso nascetur an prius.
Consider, therefore, whether it should be when the initiative comes from him, or before.
ego si ullo modo potuero, vel nocturnis itineribus experiar ut te videam.
As for me, if I can do so by any means, I will try to see you, even by traveling at night.
tu et haec et si quid erit quod intersit mea scire scribas velim.
I would like you to write about these matters, and if there is anything else that is important for me to know.
vale.
Farewell.

Notes

  1. 11.23.1nisi — The conjunction `nisi` here does not introduce a conditional clause, but is used to qualify or limit the preceding statement, meaning "and yet" or "although." The main clause is `non video posse [mutari]` ("I do not see that it can be changed").
  2. 11.23.2feci ut — `feci ut` followed by the imperfect subjunctive (`darem`) forms a noun clause of result/purpose, meaning "I managed to..." or "I made sure that...". The implied direct object (the letter) must be supplied from the context.
  3. 11.23.3fecissemus — Pluperfect subjunctive. Following the context of wishing a divorce had been done earlier (`illud quoque vellem antea [factum esse]`), it functions as the apodosis of a past contrary-to-fact condition, expressing "we should have done... (if we had done so)."
  4. 11.23.3generumne nostrum — Accusative of exclamation/indignation (or an accusative and infinitive construction with the predicate verb like `probare` or `facere` omitted). It expresses Cicero's astonishment and condemnation of his son-in-law Dolabella's radical political actions.

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Cicero, Letters to Atticus §11.23.1-11.23.3. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0474.phi057.humanitext-lat1:11.23.1-11.23.3

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