§8.3.9Ἑκαταῖος δʼ ὁ Μιλήσιος ἑτέρους λέγει τῶν Ἠλείων τοὺς Ἐπειούς· τῷ γοῦν Ἡρακλεῖ συστρατεῦσαι τοὺς Ἐπειοὺς ἐπὶ Αὐγέαν καὶ συνανελεῖν αὐτῷ τόν τε Αὐγέαν καὶ τὴν Ἦλιν· φησὶ δὲ καὶ τὴν Δύμην Ἐπειίδα καὶ Ἀχαιίδα.
But Hecataeus of Miletus says that the Epeians are different from the Eleians; at any rate, the Epeians joined in the campaign with Heracles against Augeas, and helped him to destroy both Augeas and Elis; and he says that Dyme also is both Epeian and Achaean.
πολλὰ μὲν οὖν καὶ μὴ ὄντα λέγουσιν οἱ ἀρχαῖοι συγγραφεῖς, συντεθραμμένοι τῷ ψεύδει διὰ τὰς μυθογραφίας· διὰ δὲ τοῦτο καὶ οὐχ ὁμολογοῦσι πρὸς ἀλλήλους περὶ τῶν αὐτῶν.
Now indeed the ancient writers say many things that are not so, having been brought up on falsehood because of myth-writing; and on this account also they do not agree with one another about the same things.
οὐ μέντοι ἄπιστον οὐδʼ εἴ ποτε διάφοροι τοῖς Ἠλείοις ὄντες οἱ Ἐπειοὶ καὶ ἑτεροεθνεῖς εἰς ταὐτὸ συνήρχοντο κατʼ ἐπικράτειαν, καὶ κοινὴν ἔνεμον τὴν πολιτείαν· ἐπεκράτουν δὲ καὶ μέχρι Δύμης.
It is not, however, incredible even if the Epeians, being at one time different from the Eleians and of a different nation, came together into the same place under a dominant power and shared a common constitution; and they held sway even as far as Dyme.
ὁ μὲν γὰρ ποιητὴς οὐκ ὠνόμακε τὴν Δύμην, οὐκ ἀπεικὸς δʼ ἐστὶ τότε μὲν αὐτὴν ὑπὸ τοῖς Ἐπειοῖς ὑπάρξαι, ὕστερον δὲ τοῖς Ἴωσιν, ἢ μηδʼ ἐκείνοις ἀλλὰ τοῖς τὴν ἐκείνων χώραν κατασχοῦσιν Ἀχαιοῖς· τῶν δὲ τεττάρων μερίδων, ὧν ἐντός ἐστι καὶ τὸ Βουπράσιον, ἡ μὲν Ὑρμίνη καὶ ἡ Μύρσινος τῆς Ἠλείας ἐστίν, αἱ λοιπαὶ δὲ ἐπὶ τῶν ὅρων ἤδη τῆς Πισάτιδος, ὡς οἴονταί τινες.
For the poet indeed has not named Dyme, but it is not unlikely that at that time it was subject to the Epeians, and later to the Ionians, or not even to them but to the Achaeans who occupied their country; and of the four portions, inside of which is also Bouprasion, Hyrmine and Myrsinos belong to Eleia, while the remaining ones are already on the borders of the Pisatis, as some think.
§8.3.10Ὑρμίνη μὲν οὖν πολίχνιον ἦν, νῦν δʼ οὐκ ἔστιν· ἀλλʼ ἀκρωτήριον πλησίον Κυλλήνης ὀρεινόν ἐστι, καλούμενον Ὅρμινα ἢ Ὕρμινα· Μύρσινος δὲ τὸ νῦν Μυρτούντιον, ἐπὶ θάλατταν καθήκουσα κατὰ τὴν ἐκ Δύμης εἰς Ἦλιν ὁδὸν κατοικία, στάδια τῆς Ἠλείων πόλεως διέχουσα ἑβδομήκοντα.
Hyrmine, then, was a small town, but now it does not exist; instead there is a mountainous promontory near Kyllene, called Hormina or Hyrmine; and Myrsinos is the present Myrtoontion, a settlement extending down to the sea on the road from Dyme to Elis, distant seventy stades from the city of the Eleians.
πέτρην δʼ Ὠλενίην εἰκάζουσι τὴν νῦν Σκόλλιν· ἀνάγκη γὰρ εἰκότα λέγειν, καὶ τῶν τόπων καὶ τῶν ὀνομάτων μεταβεβλημένων, ἐκείνου τε μὴ σφόδρα ἐπὶ πολλῶν σαφηνίζοντος· ἔστι δʼ ὄρος πετρῶδες κοινὸν Δυμαίων τε καὶ Τριταιέων καὶ Ἠλείων, ἐχόμενον ἑτέρου τινὸς Ἀρκαδικοῦ ὄρους Λαμπείας, ὃ τῆς Ἤλιδος μὲν διέστηκεν ἑκ τριάκοντα σταδίους, Τριταίας δὲ ἑκατόν, τοὺς ἴσους, Ἀχαϊκῶν πόλεων.
And they conjecture the Olenian rock to be the present Skollis; for it is necessary to speak of probabilities, since both the places and the names have changed, and since he does not clarify very much in many cases; and it is a rocky mountain common to the Dymaeans, Tritaeans, and Eleians, adjoining another Arcadian mountain, Lampeia, which is distant one hundred and thirty stades from Elis, and a hundred from Tritaea—the same number from the Achaean cities.
τὸ δʼ Ἀλείσιον ἔστι τὸ νῦν Ἀλεσιαῖον, χώρα περὶ τὴν Ἀμφιδολίδα, ἐν ᾗ καὶ κατὰ μῆνα ἀγορὰν συνάγουσιν οἱ περίοικοι· κεῖται δὲ ἐπὶ τῆς ὀρεινῆς ὁδοῦ τῆς ἐξ Ἤλιδος εἰς Ὀλυμπίαν· πρότερον δʼ ἦν πόλις τῆς Πισάτιδος, ἄλλοτʼ ἄλλως τῶν ὅρων ἐπαλλαττόντων διὰ τὰς τῶν ἡγεμόνων μεταβολάς· τὸ δʼ Ἀλείσιον καὶ Ἀλεισίου κολώνην ὁ ποιητὴς καλεῖ ὅταν φῇ
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μέσφʼ ἐπὶ Βουπρασίου πολυπύρου βήσαμεν
ἵππους πέτρης τʼ Ὠλενίης καὶ Ἀλεισίου ἔνθα κολώνη κέκληται. "
ὑπερβατῶς γὰρ δεῖ δέξασθαι ἴσον τῷ
καὶ ἔνθʼ Ἀλεισίου κολώνη κέκληται. ἔνιοι δὲ καὶ ποταμὸν δεικνύουσιν Ἀλείσιον.
And Aleision is the present Alesiaeon, a territory around Amphidolis, in which also the neighboring people assemble a market monthly; and it lies on the mountain road from Elis to Olympia; and formerly it was a city of the Pisatis, the boundaries overlapping in different ways at different times because of the changes of the rulers; and the poet calls Aleision also "the hill of Aleision" when he says: / "as far as Bouprasion rich in wheat we drove our horses, / and to the Olenian rock, and where is called the hill of Aleision." / For it must be taken as a hyperbaton, equivalent to "and where is called the hill of Aleision." And some also point out a river Aleision.
§8.3.11λεγομένων δέ τινων ἐν τῇ Τριφυλίᾳ Καυκώνων πρὸς τῇ Μεσσηνίᾳ, λεγομένης δὲ καὶ τῆς Δύμης Καυκωνίδος ὑπό τινων, ὄντος δὲ καὶ ποταμοῦ ἐν τῇ Δυμαίᾳ μεταξὺ Δύμης καὶ Τριταίας ὃς καλεῖται Καύκων, ζητοῦσι περὶ τῶν Καυκώνων μὴ διττοὶ λέγονται, οἱ μὲν περὶ τὴν Τριφυλίαν οἱ δὲ περὶ Δύμην καὶ Ἦλιν καὶ τὸν Καύκωνα· ἐμβάλλει δʼ οὗτος εἰς ἕτερον, ὃς Τευθέας ἀρσενικῶς καλεῖται, ὁμώνυμος πολίχνῃ τινὶ τῶν εἰς τὴν Δύμην συνῳκισμένων, πλὴν ὅτι χωρὶς τοῦ σίγμα Τευθέα λέγεται θηλυκῶς αὕτη, ἐκτεινόντων τὴν ἐσχάτην συλλαβήν, ὅπου τὸ τῆς Νεμυδίας Ἀρτέμιδος ἱερόν.
And since some Caucones are said to be in Triphylia near Messenia, and Dyme also is called Cauconis by some, and there is also a river in Dymaea between Dyme and Tritaea which is called Caucon, they inquire concerning the Caucones whether they are said to be twofold, some around Triphylia and others around Dyme, Elis, and the Caucon; and this empties into another, which is called Teutheas in the masculine, homonymous with a certain small town of those that were consolidated into Dyme, except that without the sigma this is called Teuthea in the feminine, with the last syllable lengthened, where is the temple of Artemis Nemydia.
ὁ δὲ Τευθέας εἰς τὸν Ἀχελῶον ἐμβάλλει τὸν κατὰ Λύμην ῥέοντα, ὁμώνυμον τῷ κατὰ Ἀκαρνανίαν, καλούμενον καὶ Πεῖρον.
And the Teutheas empties into the Achelous which flows near Dyme, homonymous with the one near Acarnania, and also called Peiros.
τοῦ δʼ Ἡσιόδου εἰπόντος
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ᾤκεε δʼ Ὠλενίην πέτρην ποταμοῖο παρʼ ὄχθας
εὐρεῖος Πείροιο,
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μεταγράφουσί τινες Πώροιο οὐκ εὖ.
And Hesiod having said: / "And he dwelt near the Olenian rock by the banks of the wide river / Peiros," / some change the text to "Poros", not well.
οὔτε γὰρ τὴν Δύμην ὁπόθεν Καυκωνίδα εἰρῆσθαι συμβέβηκε παραλιπεῖν ἄξιον, οὔτε τὸν ποταμὸν ὁπόθεν Καύκων εἴρηται, διὰ τὸ τοὺς Καύκωνας παρέχειν ζήτησιν, οἵ τινές ποτέ εἰσιν, ὅπου φησὶν ἡ Ἀθηνᾶ βαδίζειν κατὰ τὴν τοῦ χρέους κομιδήν.
For neither is it right to omit whence it happened that Dyme is called Cauconis, nor whence the river is called Caucon, because the Caucones present an inquiry as to who on earth they are, where Athena says she is going for the recovery of a debt.
εἰ γὰρ δὴ δεχοίμεθα τοὺς ἐν τῇ Τριφυλίᾳ λέγεσθαι τοὺς περὶ Λέπρειον, οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως πιθανὸς ἔσται ὁ λόγος· διὸ καὶ γράφουσί τινες
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ἔνθα χρεῖός μοι ὀφείλεται Ἤλιδι δίῃ,
οὐκ ὀλίγον. "
σαφεστέραν δʼ ἕξει τὴν ἐπίσκεψιν τοῦτο, ἐπειδὰν τὴν ἑξῆς χώραν περιοδεύσωμεν τήν τε Πισᾶτιν καὶ τὴν Τριφυλίαν μέχρι τῆς τῶν Μεσσηνίων μεθορίας.
For if indeed we should accept that those in Triphylia around Lepreion are meant, I do not know how the account will be plausible; therefore some also write: / "where a debt is owed to me in divine Elis, / not a small one." / And this will have a clearer investigation when we travel through the next country, both the Pisatis and Triphylia as far as the border of the Messenians.