§1.5#2εἰς μὲν οὖν τὴν νῦν σκέψιν τῶν αἰτίων οὐδαμῶς συναρμόττει περὶ αὐτῶν ὁ λόγος (οὐ γὰρ ὥσπερ ἔνιοι τῶν φυσιολόγων ἓν ὑποθέμενοι τὸ ὂν ὅμως γεννῶσιν ὡς ἐξ ὕλης τοῦ ἑνός, ἀλλʼ ἕτερον τρόπον οὗτοι λέγουσιν· ἐκεῖνοι μὲν γὰρ προστιθέασι κίνησιν, γεννῶντές γε τὸ πᾶν, οὗτοι δὲ ἀκίνητον εἶναί φασιν)·
Therefore, for the present inquiry into the causes, the discussion of these thinkers is by no means suitable (for they do not, like some of the natural philosophers who assume being to be one, nevertheless generate things from the one as from matter, but these thinkers speak in a different way; for the former add motion, at least in generating the universe, whereas the latter say that it is motionless).
οὐ μὴν ἀλλὰ τοσοῦτόν γε οἰκεῖόν ἐστι τῇ νῦν σκέψει.
Nevertheless, this much is relevant to the present inquiry.
Παρμενίδης μὲν γὰρ ἔοικε τοῦ κατὰ τὸν λόγον ἑνὸς ἅπτεσθαι, Μέλισσος δὲ τοῦ κατὰ τὴν ὕλην (διὸ καὶ ὁ μὲν πεπερασμένον ὁ δʼ ἄπειρόν φησιν εἶναι αὐτό)·
For Parmenides seems to grasp the one according to definition, and Melissus the one according to matter (wherefore also the former says that it is limited, and the latter that it is unlimited).
Ξενοφάνης δὲ πρῶτος τούτων ἑνίσας (ὁ γὰρ Παρμενίδης τούτου λέγεται γενέσθαι μαθητής) οὐθὲν διεσαφήνισεν, οὐδὲ τῆς φύσεως τούτων οὐδετέρας ἔοικε θιγεῖν, ἀλλʼ εἰς τὸν ὅλον οὐρανὸν ἀποβλέψας τὸ ἓν εἶναί φησι τὸν θεόν.
But Xenophanes, the first of these to have declared the one (for Parmenides is said to have been his pupil), made nothing clear, nor does he seem to have touched upon either of these natures, but looking off at the whole heaven he says that the one is God.
οὗτοι μὲν οὖν, καθάπερ εἴπομεν, ἀφετέοι πρὸς τὴν νῦν ζήτησιν, οἱ μὲν δύο καὶ πάμπαν ὡς ὄντες μικρὸν ἀγροικότεροι, Ξενοφάνης καὶ Μέλισσος· Παρμενίδης δὲ μᾶλλον βλέπων ἔοικέ που λέγειν·
These thinkers, then, as we have said, must be dismissed from the present inquiry—two of them indeed, Xenophanes and Melissus, as being completely a little too rustic; but Parmenides seems to speak with more insight.
παρὰ γὰρ τὸ ὂν τὸ μὴ ὂν οὐθὲν ἀξιῶν εἶναι, ἐξ ἀνάγκης ἓν οἴεται εἶναι, τὸ ὄν, καὶ ἄλλο οὐθέν (περὶ οὗ σαφέστερον ἐν τοῖς περὶ φύσεως εἰρήκαμεν), ἀναγκαζόμενος δʼ ἀκολουθεῖν τοῖς φαινομένοις, καὶ τὸ ἓν μὲν κατὰ τὸν λόγον πλείω δὲ κατὰ τὴν αἴσθησιν ὑπολαμβάνων εἶναι, δύο τὰς αἰτίας καὶ δύο τὰς ἀρχὰς πάλιν τίθησι, θερμὸν καὶ ψυχρόν, οἷον πῦρ καὶ γῆν λέγων· τούτων δὲ κατὰ μὲν τὸ ὂν τὸ θερμὸν τάττει θάτερον δὲ κατὰ τὸ μὴ ὄν. —ἐκ μὲν οὖν τῶν εἰρημένων καὶ παρὰ τῶν συνηδρευκότων ἤδη τῷ λόγῳ σοφῶν ταῦτα παρειλήφαμεν, παρὰ μὲν τῶν πρώτων σωματικήν τε τὴν ἀρχήν (ὕδωρ γὰρ καὶ πῦρ καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα σώματά ἐστιν), καὶ τῶν μὲν μίαν τῶν δὲ πλείους τὰς ἀρχὰς τὰς σωματικάς, ἀμφοτέρων μέντοι ταύτας ὡς ἐν ὕλης εἴδει τιθέντων, παρὰ δέ τινων ταύτην τε τὴν αἰτίαν τιθέντων καὶ πρὸς ταύτῃ τὴν ὅθεν ἡ κίνησις, καὶ ταύτην παρὰ τῶν μὲν μίαν παρὰ τῶν δὲ δύο.
For, claiming that besides being, non-being is nothing, he thinks that of necessity only one thing exists, namely being, and nothing else (about which we have spoken more clearly in our treatise on nature); but being forced to follow the phenomena, and assuming the one to be according to definition but the many according to sensation, he again posits two causes and two principles, the hot and the cold, meaning, for instance, fire and earth; and of these he ranges the hot under being, and the other under non-being. — From what has been said, then, and from those wise men who have already taken part in the discussion, we have received this much: from the earliest thinkers, that the principle is bodily (for water and fire and such things are bodies), and some of them posited one and others several bodily principles, both groups, however, positing these as in the form of matter; and from certain others, that they posited this cause and in addition to it the source from which motion begins, and this latter was posited as one by some, and as two by others.
μέχρι μὲν οὖν τῶν Ἰταλικῶν καὶ χωρὶς ἐκείνων μορυχώτερον εἰρήκασιν οἱ ἄλλοι περὶ αὐτῶν, πλὴν ὥσπερ εἴπομεν δυοῖν τε αἰτίαιν τυγχάνουσι κεχρημένοι, καὶ τούτων τὴν ἑτέραν οἱ μὲν μίαν οἱ δὲ δύο ποιοῦσι, τὴν ὅθεν ἡ κίνησις·
Up to the Italian thinkers, then, and apart from them, the other thinkers have spoken more vaguely about these, except that, as we have said, they happen to use two causes, and of these, some make the one and others make two, namely the source from which motion begins.
οἱ δὲ Πυθαγόρειοι δύο μὲν τὰς ἀρχὰς κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν εἰρήκασι τρόπον, τοσοῦτον δὲ προσεπέθεσαν ὃ καὶ ἴδιόν ἐστιν αὐτῶν, ὅτι τὸ πεπερασμένον καὶ τὸ ἄπειρον οὐχ ἑτέρας τινὰς ᾠήθησαν εἶναι φύσεις, οἷον πῦρ ἢ γῆν ἤ τι τοιοῦτον ἕτερον, ἀλλʼ αὐτὸ τὸ ἄπειρον καὶ αὐτὸ τὸ ἓν οὐσίαν εἶναι τούτων ὧν κατηγοροῦνται, διὸ καὶ ἀριθμὸν εἶναι τὴν οὐσίαν πάντων.
But the Pythagoreans have spoken of two principles in the same way, but they added this much, which is also peculiar to them: that they did not think the limited and the unlimited to be certain other natures, such as fire or earth or any other such thing, but that the unlimited itself and the one itself are the substance of those things of which they are predicated, wherefore also number is the substance of all things.
περί τε τούτων οὖν τοῦτον ἀπεφήναντο τὸν τρόπον, καὶ περὶ τοῦ τί ἐστιν ἤρξαντο μὲν λέγειν καὶ ὁρίζεσθαι, λίαν δʼ ἁπλῶς ἐπραγματεύθησαν.
Concerning these, then, they declared in this manner, and concerning 'what a thing is' they began to speak and define, but they treated it too simply.
ὡρίζοντό τε γὰρ ἐπιπολαίως, καὶ ᾧ πρώτῳ ὑπάρξειεν ὁ λεχθεὶς ὅρος, τοῦτʼ εἶναι τὴν οὐσίαν τοῦ πράγματος ἐνόμιζον, ὥσπερ εἴ τις οἴοιτο ταὐτὸν εἶναι διπλάσιον καὶ τὴν δυάδα διότι πρῶτον ὑπάρχει τοῖς δυσὶ τὸ διπλάσιον.
For they defined superficially, and whatever was the first thing to which the stated definition applied, this they thought to be the substance of the thing, as if one were to think that the double and the dyad are the same, because the double first belongs to two.
ἀλλʼ οὐ ταὐτὸν ἴσως ἐστὶ τὸ εἶναι διπλασίῳ καὶ δυάδι· εἰ δὲ μή, πολλὰ τὸ ἓν ἔσται, ὃ κἀκείνοις συνέβαινεν.
But perhaps to be double is not the same as to be a dyad; otherwise, the one will be many, which actually happened in their case.
παρὰ μὲν οὖν τῶν πρότερον καὶ τῶν ἄλλων τοσαῦτα ἔστι λαβεῖν.
From the earlier and the other thinkers, then, this much can be gathered.