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Lucian · The Lover of Lies or The Doubter §4-6

Philosophers Telling Tall Tales at Eucrates' House

Passage 2 of 12 · Greek

Summary

Tychiades tells Philocles about his visit to the ailing philosopher Eucrates, where he was astonished and repulsed to hear highly respected philosophers telling ridiculous and monstrous lies as truth.

§4Φιλοκλῆς ἀλλʼ οἱ μὲν ποιηταί, ὦ Τυχιάδη, καὶ αἱ πόλεις δὲ συγγνώμης εἰκότως τυγχάνοιεν ἄν, οἱ μὲν τὸ ἐκ τοῦ μύθου τερπνὸν ἐπαγωγότατον ὂν ἐγκαταμιγνύντες τῇ γραφῇ, οὗπερ μάλιστα δέονται πρὸς τοὺς ἀκροατάς, Ἀθηναῖοι δὲ καὶ Θηβαῖοι καὶ εἴ τινες ἄλλοι σεμνοτέρας ἀποφαίνοντες τὰς πατρίδας ἐκ τῶν τοιούτων.
Philocles: But the poets, Tychiades, and the cities too, might reasonably obtain pardon; the former because they mix the pleasure of myth, which is most attractive, into their writing, which they especially need for their audience; and the Athenians, the Thebans, and any others, because they make their fatherlands more solemn by such means.
εἰ γοῦν τις ἀφέλοι τὰ μυθώδη ταῦτα ἐκ τῆς Ἑλλάδος, οὐδὲν ἂν κωλύσειε λιμῷ τοὺς περιηγητὰς αὐτῶν διαφθαρῆναι μηδὲ ἀμισθὶ τῶν ξένων τἀληθὲς ἀκούειν ἐθελησάντων.
At any rate, if one were to take away these mythical elements from Greece, nothing would prevent their guides from dying of hunger, since foreigners do not wish to hear the truth even for free.
οἱ δὲ μηδεμιᾶς ἕνεκα αἰτίας τοιαύτης ὅμως χαίροντες τῷ ψεύσματι παγγέλοιοι εἰκότως δοκοῖεν ἄν.
But those who, for no such reason, nevertheless delight in falsehood, would reasonably seem altogether ridiculous.
§5Τυχιάδης εὖ λέγεις·
Tychiades: You speak well.
ἐγώ γέ τοι παρὰ Εὐκράτους ἥκω σοι τοῦ πάνυ, πολλὰ τὰ ἄπιστα καὶ μυθώδη ἀκούσας·
Indeed, I have just come to you from the house of the great Eucrates, having heard many unbelievable and mythical stories; or rather, departing in the middle of them as they were being told, I went away, unable to bear the exaggeration of the matter.
μᾶλλον δὲ μεταξὺ λεγομένων ἀπιὼν ᾠχόμην οὐ φέρων τοῦ πράγματος τὴν ὑπερβολήν, ἀλλά με ὥσπερ αἱ Ἐρινύες ἐξήλασαν πολλὰ τεράστια καὶ ἀλλόκοτα διεξιόντες.
It was as if the Furies drove me out, as they were relating many monstrous and strange things.
Φιλοκλῆς καίτοι, ὦ Τυχιάδη, ἀξιόπιστός τις ὁ Εὐκράτης ἐστίν, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἂν οὐδὲ πιστεύσειεν ὡς ἐκεῖνος οὕτω βαθὺν πώγωνα καθειμένος ἑξηκοντούτης ἀνήρ, ἔτι καὶ φιλοσοφίᾳ συνὼν τὰ πολλά, ὑπομείνειεν ἂν καὶ ἄλλου τινὸς ψευδομένου ἐπακοῦσαι παρών, οὐχ ὅπως αὐτός τι τολμῆσαι τοιοῦτον.
Philocles: And yet, Tychiades, Eucrates is a trustworthy man, and no one would ever believe that he, a sixty-year-old man who lets down such a deep beard and moreover spends most of his time in philosophy, would endure to listen to anyone else telling lies in his presence, let alone dare to do such a thing himself.
Τυχιάδης οὐ γὰρ οἶσθα, ὦ ἑταῖρε, οἷα μὲν εἶπεν, ὅπως δὲ αὐτὰ ἐπιστώσατο, ὡς δὲ καὶ ἐπώμνυτο τοῖς πλείστοις, παραστησάμενος τὰ παιδία, ὥστε με ἀποβλέποντα εἰς αὐτὸν ποικίλα ἐννοεῖν, ἄρτι μὲν ὡς μεμήνοι καὶ ἔξω εἴη τοῦ καθεστηκότος, ἄρτι δὲ ὡς γόης ὢν ἄρα τοσοῦτον χρόνον ἐλελήθει με ὑπὸ τῇ λεοντῇ γελοῖόν τινα πίθηκον περιστέλλων· οὕτως ἄτοπα διηγεῖτο.
Tychiades: For you do not know, my friend, what things he said, and how he proved them, and how he even swore oaths upon most of them, placing his children beside him, so that looking at him I thought of various things: at one moment that he was mad and out of his mind, and at another that he was actually a sorcerer and had all this time escaped my notice, concealing a ridiculous ape under the lion's skin; so strange were the things he narrated.
Φιλοκλῆς τίνα ταῦτα πρὸς τῆς Ἑστίας, ὦ Τυχιάδη;
Philocles: By Hestia, Tychiades, what are these things?
ἐθέλω γὰρ εἰδέναι ἥντινα τὴν ἀλαζονείαν ὑπὸ τηλικούτῳ τῷ πώγωνι ἔσκεπεν.
For I wish to know what kind of charlatanry he was covering under such a beard.
§6Τυχιάδης εἰώθειν μὲν καὶ ἄλλοτε, ὦ Φιλόκλεις, φοιτᾶν παρʼ αὐτόν, εἴ ποτε πολλὴν τὴν σχολὴν ἄγοιμι, τήμερον δὲ Λεοντίχῳ συγγενέσθαι δεόμενος — ἑταῖρος δέ μοι, ὡς οἶσθα — ἀκούσας τοῦ παιδὸς ὡς παρὰ τὸν Εὐκράτην ἕωθεν ἁπέλθοι νοσοῦντα ἐπισκεψόμενος, ἀμφοῖν ἕνεκα, ὡς καὶ τῷ Λεοντίχῳ συγγενοίμην κἀκεῖνον ἴδοιμι — ἠγνοήκειν γὰρ ὡς νοσοίη — παραγίγνομαι πρὸς αὐτόν.
Tychiades: I was accustomed on other occasions, Philocles, to visit him whenever I had plenty of leisure, but today, needing to meet Leontichus—who is a companion of mine, as you know—and having heard from his servant that he had gone off early in the morning to Eucrates to visit him in his illness, I came to his house for both reasons: so that I might meet Leontichus and see Eucrates—for I did not know that he was ill.
εὑρίσκω δὲ αὐτόθι τὸν μὲν Λεόντιχον οὐκέτι — ἐφθάκει γάρ, ὡς ἔφασκον, ὀλίγον προεξεληλυθώς — ἄλλους δὲ συχνούς, ἐν οἷς Κλεόδημός τε ἦν ὁ ἐκ τοῦ Περιπάτου καὶ Δεινόμαχος ὁ Στωϊκὸς καὶ Ἴων, οἶσθα τὸν ἐπὶ τοῖς Πλάτωνος λόγοις θαυμάζεσθαι ἀξιοῦντα ὡς μόνον ἀκριβῶς κατανενοηκότα τὴν γνώμην τοῦ ἀνδρὸς καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ὑποφητεῦσαι δυνάμενον.
But I found Leontichus no longer there—for he had already gone out a little before, as they said—but many others, among whom were Cleodemus from the Peripatetic school, Deinomachus the Stoic, and Ion; you know the one who claims to be admired for Plato's discourses as the only one who has accurately understood the mind of the man and is able to interpret it to others.
ὁρᾷς οἵους ἄνδρας σοί φημι, πανσόφους καὶ παναρέτους, ὅ τι περ τὸ κεφάλαιον αὐτὸ ἐξ ἑκάστης προαιρέσεως, αἰδεσίμους ἅπαντας καὶ μονονουχὶ φοβεροὺς τὴν πρόσοψιν;
Do you see what kind of men I am telling you of, all-wise and all-virtuous, the very flower of each school, all of them respectable and almost formidable to look at?
ἔτι καὶ ὁ ἰατρὸς Ἀντίγονος παρῆν, κατὰ χρείαν, οἶμαι, τῆς νόσου ἐπικληθείς.
Furthermore, the physician Antigonus was present, called in, I suppose, because of the illness.
καὶ ῥᾷον ἐδόκει ἤδη ἔχειν ὁ Εὐκράτης καὶ τὸ νόσημα τῶν συντρόφων ἦν· τὸ ῥεῦμα γὰρ εἰς τοὺς πόδας αὖθις αὐτῷ κατεληλύθει.
And Eucrates already seemed to be easier, and the disease was an old companion of his; for the humor had descended again into his feet.
Καθέζεσθαι οὖν με παρʼ αὐτὸν ἐπὶ τῆς κλίνης ὁ Εὐκράτης ἐκέλευεν, ἠρέμα ἐγκλίνας τῇ φωνῇ εἰς τὸ ἀσθενικὸν ὁπότε εἶδέ με, καίτοι βοῶντος αὐτοῦ καὶ διατεινομένου τι μεταξὺ εἰσιὼν ἐπήκουον.
Eucrates, therefore, bade me sit beside him on the couch, gently bending his voice to a weak tone when he saw me, although as I entered I heard him shouting and arguing about something.
κἀγὼ μάλα πεφυλαγμένως, μὴ ψαύσαιμι τοῖν ποδοῖν αὐτοῦ, ἀπολογησάμενος τὰ συνήθη ταῦτα, ὡς ἀγνοήσαιμι νοσοῦντα καὶ ὡς ἐπεὶ ἔμαθον δρομαῖος ἔλθοιμι, ἐκαθεζόμην πλησίον.
And I, being very careful not to touch his feet, after making the usual apologies—that I did not know he was ill and that when I learned it I came running—sat down near him.

Notes

  1. p.v.3.p.326μηδὲ ἀμισθὶ τῶν ξένων τἀληθὲς ἀκούειν ἐθελησάντων — A genitive absolute construction with των ξενων as the subject of the participle εθελησαντων. Combined with the negative μηδε and the potential optative αν κωλυσειε in the main clause, it carries a conditional force: "if the foreigners do not wish to hear the truth even for free."
  2. §5οὐχ ὅπως — An idiomatic expression meaning "not to speak of," "let alone," or "much less." Here, following the negative main clause, it means "much less would he himself dare to do such a thing."
  3. p.v.3.p.328ἐλελήθει με ... περιστέλλων — A construction where the verb λανθανω (here pluperfect ελεληθει) takes a participle (περιστελλων) to mean "do something without being noticed." With the accusative με, it means "he had, without my noticing, been concealing...".
  4. §6ὅ τι περ τὸ κεφάλαιον αὐτὸ ἐξ ἑκάστης προαιρέσεως — A relative clause modifying the antecedent ανδρας, where the copula εστι is omitted. It translates to "men who are the very summation (or head) of each school of thought (προαιρεσις)," emphasizing that they are the leading figures of their respective philosophical schools.

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Lucian, The Lover of Lies or The Doubter §4-6. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg031.humanitext-grc2:4-6

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