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Lucian · Nigrinus §5-9

Intoxication with Nigrinus's Speech and Fear of Misrepresentation

Passage 2 of 8 · Greek

Summary

The speaker compares his inspired state after hearing Nigrinus's discourse to Indians tasting wine for the first time, and prepares to narrate the dialogue to his friend. However, he worries that his poor acting as a narrator might ruin and disgrace the excellent original philosophical theme.

§5προϊὼν δὲ ἐς τόδε περιήχθην, ὅπερ ἀρτίως ἡμῖν ἐπεκάλεις· γαῦρός τε γὰρ ὑπὸ τοῦ λόγου καὶ μετέωρός εἰμι καὶ ὅλως μικρὸν οὐκέτι οὐδὲν ἐπινοῶ·
As I went on, I was brought to this very state which you were just now reproaching us with; for I am proud because of his discourse and lofty, and altogether I no longer think of anything small.
δοκῶ γάρ μοι ὅμοιόν τι πεπονθέναι πρὸς φιλοσοφίαν, οἷόνπερ καὶ οἱ Ἰνδοὶ πρὸς τὸν οἶνον λέγονται παθεῖν, ὅτε πρῶτον ἔπιον αὐτοῦ· θερμότεροι γὰρ ὄντες φύσει πιόντες ἰσχυρὸν οὕτω ποτὸν αὐτίκα μάλα ἐξεβακχεύθησαν καὶ διπλασίως ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀκράτου ἐξεμάνησαν.
For I seem to myself to have experienced something with respect to philosophy, just like what the Indians also are said to have experienced with respect to wine, when they first drank of it; for being hotter by nature, having drunk so strong a drink, they were immediately driven into Bacchic frenzy and driven twice as mad by the unmixed wine.
οὕτω σοι καὶ αὐτὸς ἔνθεος καὶ μεθύων ὑπὸ τῶν λόγων περιέρχομαι.
Thus for you I myself also go about inspired and drunk with his words.
§6καὶ μὴν τοῦτό γε οὐ μεθύειν, ἀλλὰ νήφειν τε καὶ σωφρονεῖν ἐστιν.
And yet this at least is not to be drunk, but to be sober and wise.
ἐγὼ δὲ βουλοίμην ἄν, εἰ οἷόν τε, αὐτῶν ἀκοῦσαι τῶν λόγων· οὐδὲ γὰρ οὐδὲ φθονεῖν αὐτῶν οἶμαι θέμις, ἄλλως τε εἰ καὶ φίλος καὶ περὶ τὰ ὅμοια ἐσπουδακὼς ὁ βουλόμενος ἀκούειν εἴη.
And I would wish, if possible, to hear these very words; for indeed I do not think it is right to begrudge them, especially if the one wishing to hear should be both a friend and one who has been zealous about the same things.
θάρρει, ὦγαθέ· τοῦτο γάρ τοι τὸ τοῦ Ὁμήρου, σπεύδοντα καὶ αὐτὸν παρακαλεῖς, καὶ εἴ γε μὴ ἔφθης, αὐτὸς ἂν ἐδεήθην ἀκοῦσαί μου διηγουμένου· μάρτυρα γάρ σε παραστήσασθαι πρὸς τοὺς πολλοὺς ἐθέλω, ὅτι οὐκ ἀλόγως μαίνομαι· ἄλλως τε καὶ ἡδύ μοι τὸ μεμνῆσθαι αὐτῶν πολλάκις, καὶ ταύτην ἤδη μελέτην ἐποιησάμην· ἐπεὶ κἄν τις μὴ παρὼν τύχῃ, καὶ οὕτω δὶς ἢ τρὶς τῆς ἡμέρας ἀνακυκλῶ πρὸς ἐμαυτὸν τὰ εἰρημένα.
Take heart, my good man; for indeed, to use Homer's phrase, you urge one who is himself hastening, and if you had not anticipated me, I myself would have begged you to listen to me narrating; for I want to set you up as a witness to the multitude that I am not mad without reason; and besides it is also pleasant for me to remember them often, and I have already made this my practice; for even if no one happens to be present, even so, two or three times a day, I revolve what was said to myself.
§7καὶ ὥσπερ οἱ ἐρασταὶ τῶν παιδικῶν οὐ παρόντων ἔργʼ ἄττα καὶ λόγους εἰρημένους αὐτοῖς διαμνημονεύουσι καὶ τούτοις ἐνδιατρίβοντες ἐξαπατῶσι τὴν νόσον, ὡς παρόντων σφίσι τῶν ἀγαπωμένων — ἔνιοι γοῦν αὐτοῖς καὶ προσλαλεῖν οἴονται καὶ ὡς ἄρτι λεγομένων πρὸς αὐτοὺς ὧν τότε ἤκουσαν, ἥδονται καὶ προσάψαντες τὴν ψυχὴν τῇ μνήμῃ τῶν παρεληλυθότων σχολὴν οὐκ ἄγουσιν τοῖς ἐν ποσὶν ἀνιᾶσθαι — οὕτω δὴ καὶ αὐτὸς φιλοσοφίας οὐ παρούσης τοὺς λόγους, οὓς τότε ἤκουσα, συναγείρων καὶ πρὸς ἐμαυτὸν ἀνατυλίττων οὐ μικρὰν ἔχω παραμυθίαν, καὶ ὅλως καθάπερ ἐν πελάγει καὶ νυκτὶ πολλῇ φερόμενος, ἐς πυρσόν τινα τοῦτον ἀποβλέπω, πᾶσι μὲν παρεῖναι τοῖς ὑπʼ ἐμοῦ πραττομένοις τὸν ἄνδρα ἐκεῖνον οἰόμενος, ἀεὶ δὲ ὥσπερ ἀκούων αὐτοῦ τὰ αὐτὰ πρός με λέγοντος· ἐνίοτε δέ, καὶ μάλιστα ὅταν ἐνερείσω τὴν ψυχήν, καὶ τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ μοι φαίνεται καὶ τῆς φωνῆς ὁ ἦχος ἐν ταῖς ἀκοαῖς παραμένει· καὶ γάρ τοι κατὰ τὸν κωμικὸν ὡς ἀληθῶς ἐγκατέλιπέν τι κέντρον τοῖς ἀκούουσιν.
And just as lovers, when their beloveds are not present, remember certain deeds and words spoken to them, and dwelling on these, they beguile their sickness, as though their loved ones were present to them—at any rate, some of them even think they are talking to them, and they rejoice as if what they heard then were being spoken to them just now, and by fastening their soul to the memory of the past, they have no leisure to be vexed by the things at hand—so indeed, also I myself, in the absence of philosophy, by gathering together the words which I then heard and unrolling them to myself, have no small consolation, and altogether, as if carried on the open sea in deep night, I look to this as to a kind of beacon, thinking that that man is present at everything done by me, and always as if hearing him saying the same things to me; and sometimes, and especially when I strain my soul, his face also appears to me and the sound of his voice remains in my ears; for indeed, as the comic poet says, he truly left some sting in those who heard him.
§8παῦε, ὦ θαυμάσιε, μακρὸν ἀνακρουόμενος καὶ λέγε ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἀναλαβὼν ἤδη τὰ εἰρημένα· ὡς οὐ μετρίως με ἀποκναίεις περιάγων.
Stop, my wonderful friend, backing water so far, and speak, taking up from the beginning what was said; for you wear me out in no small degree by leading me around.
εὖ λέγεις, καὶ οὕτω χρὴ ποιεῖν.
You speak well, and so it must be done.
ἀλλʼ ἐκεῖνο, ὦ ἑταῖρε — ἤδη τραγικοὺς ἢ καὶ νὴ Δία κωμικοὺς φαύλους ἑώρακας ὑποκριτάς, τῶν συριττομένων λέγω τούτων καὶ διαφθειρόντων τὰ ποιήματα καὶ τὸ τελευταῖον ἐκβαλλομένων, καίτοι τῶν δραμάτων πολλάκις εὖ ἐχόντων τε καὶ νενικηκότων;
But this one thing, my friend: have you ever seen bad tragic or, by Zeus, comic actors—I mean those who are hissed and ruin the plays and are finally thrown out, although the dramas are often good and have won prizes?
πολλοὺς οἶδα τοιούτους.
I know many such.
ἀλλὰ τί τοῦτο;
But what of this?
δέδοικα μή σοι μεταξὺ δόξω γελοίως αὐτὰ μιμεῖσθαι, τὰ μὲν ἀτάκτως συνείρων, ἐνίοτε δὲ καὶ αὐτὸν ὑπʼ ἀσθενείας τὸν νοῦν διαφθείρων, κᾆτα προαχθῇς ἠρέμα καὶ αὐτοῦ καταγνῶναι τοῦ δράματος.
I fear lest in the course of it I seem to you to imitate them ridiculously, stringing things together in a disorderly way, and sometimes even ruining the meaning itself through my weakness, and then you be led gradually to condemn even the drama itself.
καὶ τὸ μὲν ἐμόν, οὐ πάνυ ἄχθομαι, ἡ δὲ ὑπόθεσις οὐ μετρίως με λυπήσειν ἔοικε συνεκπίπτουσα καὶ τὸ ἐμὸν μέρος ἀσχημονοῦσα.
And as for my part, I don't care much, but the subject matter seems likely to grieve me not a little, falling together with me and being disgraced by my performance.
§9τοῦτʼ οὖν παρʼ ὅλον μέμνησό μοι τὸν λόγον, ὡς ὁ μὲν ποιητὴς ἡμῖν τῶν τοιούτων ἁμαρτημάτων ἀνεύθυνος καὶ τῆς σκηνῆς πόρρω ποι κάθηται, οὐδὲν αὐτῷ μέλον τῶν ἐν θεάτρῳ πραγμάτων.
Remember this, then, for me through the whole discourse, that the poet is blameless of such faults and sits somewhere far from the stage, caring nothing for the things in the theatre.
ἐγὼ δʼ ἐμαυτοῦ σοι πεῖραν παρέχω, ὁποῖός τίς εἰμι τὴν μνήμην ὑποκριτής, οὐδὲν ἀγγέλου τὰ ἄλλα τραγικοῦ διαφέρων.
But I am providing you with a trial of myself, what kind of actor of memory I am, in other respects differing not at all from a tragic messenger.
ὥστε κἂν ἐνδεέστερόν τι δοκῶ λέγειν, ἐκεῖνο μὲν ἔστω πρόχειρον, ὡς ἄμεινον ἦν, καὶ ἄλλως ὁ ποιητὴς ἴσως διεξῄει· ἐμὲ δὲ κἂν ἐκσυρίττῃς, οὐ πάνυ τι λυπήσομαι.
So that even if I seem to say something rather inadequately, let that be ready to hand: that it was better, and otherwise the poet perhaps went through it; but as for me, even if you hiss me off, I shall not be grieved at all.

Notes

  1. §5ὅμοιόν τι πεπονθέναι πρὸς φιλοσοφίαν, οἷόνπερ καὶ οἱ Ἰνδοὶ πρὸς τὸν οἶνον λέγονται παθεῖν — Structural contrast. The relationship 'A experiences (πάσχω) something in relation to (πρός + accusative) B' is beautifully mirrored between the speaker/philosophy (τι πεπονθέναι πρὸς φιλοσοφίαν) and the Indians/wine (οἱ Ἰνδοὶ πρὸς τὸν οἶνον... παθεῖν).
  2. §6ἄλλως τε εἰ καὶ φίλος καὶ περὶ τὰ ὅμοια ἐσπουδακὼς ὁ βουλόμενος ἀκούειν εἴη — The subject in the conditional clause, `ὁ βουλόμενος ἀκούειν` (the one wishing to hear), is modified by two predicative terms: the adjective-functioning `φίλος` and the perfect participle `ἐσπουδακὼς`. `ἄλλως τε εἰ` is an idiomatic expression meaning 'especially if'.
  3. §7ὡς παρόντων σφίσι τῶν ἀγαπωμένων — A genitive absolute construction introduced by `ὡς`, expressing a subjective representation or perceived situation: 'as if their loved ones were present to them'.
  4. §8δέδοικα μή σοι μεταξὺ δόξω γελοίως αὐτὰ μιμεῖσθαι — A verb of fearing `δέδοικα` followed by `μή` and the subjunctive/future indicative `δόξω`, meaning 'I fear lest...'. The adverb `μεταξὺ` functions here as 'meanwhile' or 'in the middle of the process'.

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Lucian, Nigrinus §5-9. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg007.humanitext-grc2:5-9

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