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Plato · Timaeus §87-88

Causes of Soul's Diseases and Harmony of Body and Soul

Passage 39 of 41 · Greek

Summary

Timaeus explains that diseases of the soul arise from bodily disorders and poor education or governance, emphasizing the necessity of balancing intellectual pursuits with physical exercises to maintain a healthy harmony between soul and body.

§87ΤΙ. ὅτου γὰρ ἂν ἢ τῶν ὀξέων καὶ τῶν ἁλυκῶν φλεγμάτων καὶ ὅσοι πικροὶ καὶ χολώδεις χυμοὶ κατὰ τὸ σῶμα πλανηθέντες ἔξω μὲν μὴ λάβωσιν ἀναπνοήν, ἐντὸς δὲ εἱλλόμενοι τὴν ἀφʼ αὑτῶν ἀτμίδα τῇ τῆς ψυχῆς φορᾷ συμμείξαντες ἀνακερασθῶσι, παντοδαπὰ νοσήματα ψυχῆς ἐμποιοῦσι μᾶλλον καὶ ἧττον καὶ ἐλάττω καὶ πλείω, πρός τε τοὺς τρεῖς τόπους ἐνεχθέντα τῆς ψυχῆς, πρὸς ὃν ἂν ἕκαστʼ αὐτῶν προσπίπτῃ, ποικίλλει μὲν εἴδη δυσκολίας καὶ δυσθυμίας παντοδαπά, ποικίλλει δὲ θρασύτητός τε καὶ δειλίας, ἔτι δὲ λήθης ἅμα καὶ δυσμαθίας.
TI. For whenever the acid and salty phlegms, and all such bitter and bilious humors as wander through the body, fail to find an outlet to the outside, but being pent up within and mixing and blending their own vapor with the motion of the soul, they produce all kinds of diseases of the soul, varying in intensity and extent. And being carried to the three regions of the soul, according to which of them each humor falls upon, they produce all sorts of diverse forms of ill-temper and depression, and also of rashness and cowardice, and furthermore of forgetfulness and dullness of learning.
πρὸς δὲ τούτοις, ὅταν οὕτως κακῶς παγέντων πολιτεῖαι κακαὶ καὶ λόγοι κατὰ πόλεις ἰδίᾳ τε καὶ δημοσίᾳ λεχθῶσιν, ἔτι δὲ μαθήματα μηδαμῇ τούτων ἰατικὰ ἐκ νέων μανθάνηται, ταύτῃ κακοὶ πάντες οἱ κακοὶ διὰ δύο ἀκουσιώτατα γιγνόμεθα·
In addition to these, when people of such bad constitution live under bad forms of government, and bad discourses are spoken in cities both privately and publicly, and moreover no studies that could heal these are learned from youth onwards, in this way all of us who are bad become bad through two most involuntary causes.
ὧν αἰτιατέον μὲν τοὺς φυτεύοντας ἀεὶ τῶν φυτευομένων μᾶλλον καὶ τοὺς τρέφοντας τῶν τρεφομένων, προθυμητέον μήν, ὅπῃ τις δύναται, καὶ διὰ τροφῆς καὶ διʼ ἐπιτηδευμάτων μαθημάτων τε φυγεῖν μὲν κακίαν, τοὐναντίον δὲ ἑλεῖν.
Of these, we must always blame the planters more than the planted, and the nourishers more than the nourished; yet we must strive, in whatever way we can, through nurture, habits, and studies, to flee from vice and on the contrary to choose virtue.
ταῦτα μὲν οὖν δὴ τρόπος ἄλλος λόγων.
These things, then, belong to another kind of discourse.
τὸ δὲ τούτων ἀντίστροφον αὖ, τὸ περὶ τὰς τῶν σωμάτων καὶ διανοήσεων θεραπείας αἷς αἰτίαις σῴζεται, πάλιν εἰκὸς καὶ πρέπον ἀνταποδοῦναι· δικαιότερον γὰρ τῶν ἀγαθῶν πέρι μᾶλλον ἢ τῶν κακῶν ἴσχειν λόγον.
But their counterpart, in turn, concerning the treatment of bodies and minds by which causes they are preserved, it is reasonable and fitting to render in return; for it is more just to hold discourse about good things than about bad things.
πᾶν δὴ τὸ ἀγαθὸν καλόν, τὸ δὲ καλὸν οὐκ ἄμετρον· καὶ ζῷον οὖν τὸ τοιοῦτον ἐσόμενον σύμμετρον θετέον.
Now, everything good is beautiful, and the beautiful is not disproportionate; therefore, a living being that is to be such must be posited as proportionate.
συμμετριῶν δὲ τὰ μὲν σμικρὰ διαισθανόμενοι συλλογιζόμεθα, τὰ δὲ κυριώτατα καὶ μέγιστα ἀλογίστως ἔχομεν.
We perceive and reason about small proportions, but concerning the most important and greatest we are without reasoning.
πρὸς γὰρ ὑγιείας καὶ νόσους ἀρετάς τε καὶ κακίας οὐδεμία συμμετρία καὶ ἀμετρία μείζων ἢ ψυχῆς αὐτῆς πρὸς σῶμα αὐτό·
For with respect to health and disease, virtues and vices, there is no proportion or disproportion greater than that of the soul itself to the body itself.
ὧν οὐδὲν σκοποῦμεν οὐδʼ ἐννοοῦμεν, ὅτι ψυχὴν ἰσχυρὰν καὶ πάντῃ μεγάλην ἀσθενέστερον καὶ ἔλαττον εἶδος ὅταν ὀχῇ, καὶ ὅταν αὖ τοὐναντίον συμπαγῆτον τούτω, οὐ καλὸν ὅλον τὸ ζῷον—ἀσύμμετρον γὰρ ταῖς μεγίσταις συμμετρίαις—τὸ δὲ ἐναντίως ἔχον πάντων θεαμάτων τῷ δυναμένῳ καθορᾶν κάλλιστον καὶ ἐρασμιώτατον.
Of these we observe and understand nothing—that when a weak and smaller form carries a strong and altogether great soul, or when on the contrary these two are compounded, the whole living being is not beautiful, for it is disproportionate in the greatest proportions; whereas the opposite condition is, of all sights, the most beautiful and lovely to him who is able to see.
οἷον οὖν ὑπερσκελὲς ἢ καί τινα ἑτέραν ὑπέρεξιν ἄμετρον ἑαυτῷ τι σῶμα ὂν ἅμα μὲν αἰσχρόν, ἅμα δʼ ἐν τῇ κοινωνίᾳ τῶν πόνων πολλοὺς μὲν κόπους, πολλὰ δὲ σπάσματα καὶ διὰ τὴν παραφορότητα πτώματα παρέχον μυρίων κακῶν αἴτιον ἑαυτῷ, §88ΤΙ. ταὐτὸν δὴ διανοητέον καὶ περὶ τοῦ συναμφοτέρου, ζῷον ὃ καλοῦμεν, ὡς ὅταν τε ἐν αὐτῷ ψυχὴ κρείττων οὖσα σώματος περιθύμως ἴσχῃ, διασείουσα πᾶν αὐτὸ ἔνδοθεν νόσων ἐμπίμπλησι, καὶ ὅταν εἴς τινας μαθήσεις καὶ ζητήσεις συντόνως ἴῃ, κατατήκει, διδαχάς τʼ αὖ καὶ μάχας ἐν λόγοις ποιουμένη δημοσίᾳ καὶ ἰδίᾳ διʼ ἐρίδων καὶ φιλονικίας γιγνομένων διάπυρον αὐτὸ ποιοῦσα σαλεύει, καὶ ῥεύματα ἐπάγουσα, τῶν λεγομένων ἰατρῶν ἀπατῶσα τοὺς πλείστους, τἀναίται αἰτιᾶσθαι ποιεῖ·
For just as a body with legs too long, or having some other disproportionate excess, is at once ugly and, in sharing labors, causes many fatigues, many spasms, and, through its unsteadiness, falls, becoming the cause of countless evils to itself, TI. the very same thing we must think also about the compound, which we call a living being: that whenever in it a soul is stronger than the body and is in a state of high passion, shaking it all from within, she fills it with diseases; and when she goes intensely into some studies and investigations, she wastes it; and again, by making teachings and battles in words in public and in private, through strifes and rivalries that arise, she makes it feverish and shakes it, and by bringing on rheums, she deceives most of those called physicians and makes them blame the wrong causes.
σῶμά τε ὅταν αὖ μέγα καὶ ὑπέρψυχον σμικρᾷ συμφυὲς ἀσθενεῖ τε διανοίᾳ γένηται, διττῶν ἐπιθυμιῶν οὐσῶν φύσει κατʼ ἀνθρώπους, διὰ σῶμα μὲν τροφῆς, διὰ δὲ τὸ θειότατον τῶν ἐν ἡμῖν φρονήσεως, αἱ τοῦ κρείττονος κινήσεις κρατοῦσαι καὶ τὸ μὲν σφέτερον αὔξουσαι, τὸ δὲ τῆς ψυχῆς κωφὸν καὶ δυσμαθὲς ἀμνῆμόν τε ποιοῦσαι, τὴν μεγίστην νόσον ἀμαθίαν ἐναπεργάζονται.
And on the other hand, when a great and over-powerful body is conjoined with a small and weak mind, since there are naturally two kinds of desires in humans—due to the body for food, and due to the most divine part in us for wisdom—the movements of the stronger part prevail and increase their own interest, but make that of the soul dull, slow to learn, and forgetful, thereby producing the greatest disease, ignorance.
μία δὴ σωτηρία πρὸς ἄμφω, μήτε τὴν ψυχὴν ἄνευ σώματος κινεῖν μήτε σῶμα ἄνευ ψυχῆς, ἵνα ἀμυνομένω γίγνησθον ἰσορρόπω καὶ ὑγιῆ.
Now, there is one salvation for both: neither to move the soul without the body, nor the body without the soul, so that defending themselves against each other they may become balanced and healthy.
τὸν δὴ μαθηματικὸν ἤ τινα ἄλλην σφόδρα μελέτην διανοίᾳ κατεργαζόμενον καὶ τὴν τοῦ σώματος ἀποδοτέον κίνησιν, γυμναστικῇ προσομιλοῦντα, τόν τε αὖ σῶμα ἐπιμελῶς πλάττοντα τὰς τῆς ψυχῆς ἀνταποδοτέον κινήσεις, μουσικῇ καὶ πάσῃ φιλοσοφίᾳ προσχρώμενον, εἰ μέλλει δικαίως τις ἅμα μὲν καλός, ἅμα δὲ ἀγαθὸς ὀρθῶς κεκλῆσθαι.
Therefore, the mathematician or anyone else working intensely with his mind on any other study must also render the movement of the body in return by engaging in gymnastics; and he who diligently fashions his body must in turn render the movements of the soul by employing music and all philosophy, if he is to be rightly and justly called at once beautiful and good.
κατὰ δὲ ταὐτὰ ταῦτα καὶ τὰ μέρη θεραπευτέον, τὸ τοῦ παντὸς ἀπομιμούμενον εἶδος.
And after these same principles we must also treat the parts, imitating the form of the universe.
τοῦ γὰρ σώματος ὑπὸ τῶν εἰσιόντων καομένου τε ἐντὸς καὶ ψυχομένου, καὶ πάλιν ὑπὸ τῶν ἔξωθεν ξηραινομένου καὶ ὑγραινομένου καὶ τὰ τούτοις ἀκόλουθα πάσχοντος ὑπʼ ἀμφοτέρων τῶν κινήσεων, ὅταν μέν τις ἡσυχίαν ἄγον τὸ σῶμα παραδιδῷ ταῖς κινήσεσι, κρατηθὲν διώλετο, ἐὰν δὲ ἥν τε τροφὸν καὶ τιθήνην τοῦ παντὸς προσείπομεν μιμῆταί τις, καὶ τὸ σῶμα μάλιστα μὲν μηδέποτε ἡσυχίαν ἄγειν ἐᾷ, κινῇ δὲ καὶ σεισμοὺς ἀεί τινας ἐμποιῶν αὐτῷ διὰ παντὸς τὰς ἐντὸς καὶ ἐκτὸς ἀμύνηται κατὰ φύσιν κινήσεις, καὶ μετρίως σείων τά τε περὶ τὸ σῶμα πλανώμενα παθήματα καὶ μέρη κατὰ συγγενείας εἰς τάξιν κατακοσμῇ πρὸς ἄλληλα, κατὰ τὸν πρόσθεν λόγον ὃν περὶ τοῦ παντὸς ἐλέγομεν, οὐκ ἐχθρὸν παρʼ ἐχθρὸν τιθέμενον ἐάσει πολέμους ἐντίκτειν τῷ σώματι καὶ νόσους, ἀλλὰ φίλον παρὰ φίλον τεθὲν ὑγίειαν ἀπεργαζόμενον παρέξει.
For since the body is burnt and cooled within by the things that enter it, and again dried and moistened by the things outside, and suffers what follows from these from both movements, when someone surrenders his body in a state of rest to these movements, it is overcome and perishes. But if someone imitates what we called the nurse and caregiver of the universe, and, above all, never allows the body to be at rest, but moves it and by always producing certain vibrations in it throughout, defends it against the internal and external movements according to nature, and by shaking it moderately, brings the wandering affections and parts about the body into order in relation to one another according to their affinities, in accordance with the former discourse we spoke about the universe, he will not allow hostile things placed by hostile things to breed wars and diseases in the body, but placing friendly by friendly, he will provide health as a result.

Notes

  1. 87aὅτου γὰρ ἂν — The word ὅτου is the genitive singular form of the indefinite relative pronoun ὅστις (equivalent to οὗτινος) and introduces a conditional relative clause with ἂν and the subjunctive verbs (λάβωσιν and ἀνακερασθῶσι). This genitive acts as a genitive of possessor or association with respect to the body wherein the humors wander, ultimately affecting the individual.
  2. 87bὧν αἰτιατέον — This is an impersonal construction of the verbal adjective αἰτιατέον (from αἰτιάομαι). In such impersonal constructions, the object of the action (the ones to be blamed) is put in the accusative case (τοὺς φυτεύοντας, τοὺς τρέφοντας). The genitives τῶν φυτευομένων and τῶν τρεφομένων are genitives of comparison after μᾶλλον.
  3. 87dὅτι ψυχὴν ἰσχυρὰν καὶ πάντῃ μεγάλην ἀσθενέστερον καὶ ἔλαττον εἶδος ὅταν ὀχῇ — In this ὅτι-clause, the subject is the neuter noun phrase ἀσθενέστερον καὶ ἔλαττον εἶδος (a weaker and smaller form, i.e., the body), while the object is the accusative phrase ψυχὴν ἰσχυρὰν καὶ πάντῃ μεγάλην (a strong and altogether great soul). The word order is inverted (hyperbaton) with the object placed first, which can cause confusion regarding the subject and object of the verb ὀχῇ (to carry).
  4. 88bἵνα ἀμυνομένω γίγνησθον ἰσορρόπω — The dual form is systematically used here to refer to the two entities, soul and body. It features the dual middle participle ἀμυνομένω (defending themselves against each other), the dual verb γίγνησθον, and the dual adjective ἰσορρόπω. This emphasizes the reciprocal defense and balance between the two.

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Plato, Timaeus §87-88. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg031.humanitext-grc2:87-88

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