§205κτήσει γάρ, ἔφη, ἀγαθῶν οἱ εὐδαίμονες εὐδαίμονες, καὶ οὐκέτι προσδεῖ ἐρέσθαι ἵνα τί δὲ βούλεται εὐδαίμων εἶναι ὁ βουλόμενος; ἀλλὰ τέλος δοκεῖ ἔχειν ἡ ἀπόκρισις. ἀληθῆ λέγεις, εἶπον ἐγώ.
"For," she said, "it is by the possession of good things that happy people are happy, and there is no further need to ask, 'For what purpose does he who wishes to be happy wish it?' No, the answer seems to be final." "You speak the truth," I said.
ταύτην δὴ τὴν βούλησιν καὶ τὸν ἔρωτα τοῦτον πότερα κοινὸν οἴει εἶναι πάντων ἀνθρώπων, καὶ πάντας τἀγαθὰ βούλεσθαι αὑτοῖς εἶναι ἀεί, ἢ πῶς λέγεις; οὕτως, ἦν δʼ ἐγώ· κοινὸν εἶναι πάντων. τί δὴ οὖν, ἔφη, ὦ Σώκρατες, οὐ πάντας ἐρᾶν φαμεν, εἴπερ γε πάντες τῶν αὐτῶν ἐρῶσι καὶ ἀεί, ἀλλά τινάς φαμεν ἐρᾶν, τοὺς δʼ οὔ; θαυμάζω, ἦν δʼ ἐγώ, καὶ αὐτός. ἀλλὰ μὴ θαύμαζʼ, ἔφη· ἀφελόντες γὰρ ἄρα τοῦ ἔρωτός τι εἶδος ὀνομάζομεν, τὸ τοῦ ὅλου ἐπιτιθέντες ὄνομα, ἔρωτα, τὰ δὲ ἄλλα ἄλλοις καταχρώμεθα ὀνόμασιν. ὥσπερ τί; ἦν δʼ ἐγώ.
"Do you think then that this wish and this love are common to all men, and that all wish good things to be theirs always, or how do you say?" "Thus," I said, "that it is common to all." "Why indeed then, Socrates," she said, "do we not say that all love, if indeed all love the same things and always, but we say that some love, and others do not?" "I wonder," I said, "myself as well." "But do not wonder," she said; "for we, taking away a certain species of love, name it, applying the name of the whole, 'love', but for the other parts we use other names." "Like what?" I said.
ὥσπερ τόδε. οἶσθʼ ὅτι ποίησίς ἐστί τι πολύ· ἡ γάρ τοι ἐκ τοῦ μὴ ὄντος εἰς τὸ ὂν ἰόντι ὁτῳοῦν αἰτία πᾶσά ἐστι ποίησις, ὥστε καὶ αἱ ὑπὸ πάσαις ταῖς τέχναις ἐργασίαι ποιήσεις εἰσὶ καὶ οἱ τούτων δημιουργοὶ πάντες ποιηταί. ἀληθῆ λέγεις. ἀλλʼ ὅμως, ἦ δʼ ἥ, οἶσθʼ ὅτι οὐ καλοῦνται ποιηταὶ ἀλλὰ ἄλλα ἔχουσιν ὀνόματα, ἀπὸ δὲ πάσης τῆς ποιήσεως ἓν μόριον ἀφορισθὲν τὸ περὶ τὴν μουσικὴν καὶ τὰ μέτρα τῷ τοῦ ὅλου ὀνόματι προσαγορεύεται.
"Like this: You know that 'making' is something broad; for indeed, any cause that brings anything whatever from non-being into being is entirely making, so that the works under all the crafts are makings, and the craftsmen of these are all makers." "You speak the truth." "But nevertheless," she said, "you know that they are not called 'makers' but have other names, and that one part, set apart from the whole of making—the part concerning music and meters—is addressed by the name of the whole.
ποίησις γὰρ τοῦτο μόνον καλεῖται, καὶ οἱ ἔχοντες τοῦτο τὸ μόριον τῆς ποιήσεως ποιηταί. ἀληθῆ λέγεις, ἔφην.
For this alone is called 'making', and those who have this part of making are called 'makers'." "You speak the truth," I said.
οὕτω τοίνυν καὶ περὶ τὸν ἔρωτα.
"So indeed it is also concerning love.
τὸ μὲν κεφάλαιόν ἐστι πᾶσα ἡ τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἐπιθυμία καὶ τοῦ εὐδαιμονεῖν ὁ
"μέγιστός τε καὶ δολερὸς ἔρως"
παντί· ἀλλʼ οἱ μὲν ἄλλῃ τρεπόμενοι πολλαχῇ ἐπʼ αὐτόν, ἢ κατὰ χρηματισμὸν ἢ κατὰ φιλογυμναστίαν ἢ κατὰ φιλοσοφίαν, οὔτε ἐρᾶν καλοῦνται οὔτε ἐρασταί, οἱ δὲ κατὰ ἕν τι εἶδος ἰόντες τε καὶ ἐσπουδακότες τὸ τοῦ ὅλου ὄνομα ἴσχουσιν, ἔρωτά τε καὶ ἐρᾶν καὶ ἐρασταί. κινδυνεύεις ἀληθῆ, ἔφην ἐγώ, λέγειν.
In sum, all desire for good things and for being happy is 'the greatest and deceitful love' for everyone; but those who turn to it in many other ways, either through money-making or love of physical training or philosophy, are neither said to love nor are they called lovers, while those who go after one particular species and are serious about it take the name of the whole—both 'love' and 'to love' and 'lovers'." "You seem to speak the truth," I said.
καὶ λέγεται μέν γέ τις, ἔφη, λόγος, ὡς οἳ ἂν τὸ ἥμισυ ἑαυτῶν ζητῶσιν, οὗτοι ἐρῶσιν· ὁ δʼ ἐμὸς λόγος οὔτε ἡμίσεός φησιν εἶναι τὸν ἔρωτα οὔτε ὅλου, ἐὰν μὴ τυγχάνῃ γέ που, ὦ ἑταῖρε, ἀγαθὸν ὄν, ἐπεὶ αὑτῶν γε καὶ πόδας καὶ χεῖρας ἐθέλουσιν ἀποτέμνεσθαι οἱ ἄνθρωποι, ἐὰν αὐτοῖς δοκῇ τὰ ἑαυτῶν πονηρὰ εἶναι.
"And indeed a certain story is told," she said, "that those who seek the half of themselves, these are the ones who love; but my story says that love is neither of a half nor of a whole, unless, my friend, it happens to be somehow good, since men are willing to have even their own feet and hands cut off, if their own things seem to them to be bad."