§11ΣΩ. ἀλλʼ εἴ γε ταὐτὸν ἦν, ὦ φίλε Εὐθύφρων, τὸ θεοφιλὲς καὶ τὸ ὅσιον, εἰ μὲν διὰ τὸ ὅσιον εἶναι ἐφιλεῖτο τὸ ὅσιον, καὶ διὰ τὸ θεοφιλὲς εἶναι ἐφιλεῖτο ἂν τὸ θεοφιλές, εἰ δὲ διὰ τὸ φιλεῖσθαι ὑπὸ θεῶν τὸ θεοφιλὲς θεοφιλὲς ἦν, καὶ τὸ ὅσιον ἂν διὰ τὸ φιλεῖσθαι ὅσιον ἦν·
Socrates: But if the god-loved and the pious were the same, my dear Euthyphro, if indeed the pious were loved because of being pious, then the pious would also be loved because of being god-loved; and if indeed the god-loved were god-loved because of being loved by the gods, then the pious would also be pious because of being loved.
νῦν δὲ ὁρᾷς ὅτι ἐναντίως ἔχετον, ὡς παντάπασιν ἑτέρω ὄντε ἀλλήλων.
But now you see that they are opposite to each other, as being altogether different from one another.
τὸ μὲν γάρ, ὅτι φιλεῖται, ἐστὶν οἷον φιλεῖσθαι· τὸ δʼ ὅτι ἐστὶν οἷον φιλεῖσθαι, διὰ τοῦτο φιλεῖται.
For the one, because it is loved, is of a character to be loved; but the other, because it is of a character to be loved, for this reason is loved.
καὶ κινδυνεύεις, ὦ Εὐθύφρων, ἐρωτώμενος τὸ ὅσιον ὅτι ποτʼ ἐστίν, τὴν μὲν οὐσίαν μοι αὐτοῦ οὐ βούλεσθαι δηλῶσαι, πάθος δέ τι περὶ αὐτοῦ λέγειν, ὅτι πέπονθε τοῦτο τὸ ὅσιον, φιλεῖσθαι ὑπὸ πάντων θεῶν· ὅτι δὲ ὄν, οὔπω εἶπες.
And you seem, Euthyphro, when asked what the pious ever is, to be unwilling to make clear to me its essence, but rather to state a certain affection concerning it, namely that this is what the pious has experienced, being loved by all the gods; but what it is in essence, you have not yet said.
εἰ οὖν σοι φίλον, μή με ἀποκρύψῃ ἀλλὰ πάλιν εἰπὲ ἐξ ἀρχῆς τί ποτε ὂν τὸ ὅσιον εἴτε φιλεῖται ὑπὸ θεῶν εἴτε ὁτιδὴ πάσχει—οὐ γὰρ περὶ τούτου διοισόμεθα—ἀλλʼ εἰπὲ προθύμως τί ἐστιν τό τε ὅσιον καὶ τὸ ἀνόσιον;
If therefore it is pleasing to you, do not hide it from me but tell me again from the beginning what the pious ever is, whether it is loved by the gods or whatever indeed it experiences—for we shall not differ about this—but tell me eagerly what both the pious and the impious are.
ΕΥΘ. ἀλλʼ, ὦ Σώκρατες, οὐκ ἔχω ἔγωγε ὅπως σοι εἴπω ὃ νοῶ· περιέρχεται γάρ πως ἡμῖν ἀεὶ ὃ ἂν προθώμεθα καὶ οὐκ ἐθέλει μένειν ὅπου ἂν ἱδρυσώμεθα αὐτό.
Euthyphro: But, Socrates, I do not know how to tell you what I have in mind; for whatever we propose somehow always goes around and is unwilling to remain where we set it down.
ΣΩ. τοῦ ἡμετέρου προγόνου, ὦ Εὐθύφρων, ἔοικεν εἶναι Δαιδάλου τὰ ὑπὸ σοῦ λεγόμενα.
Socrates: What is said by you, Euthyphro, seems to be of our ancestor Daedalus.
καὶ εἰ μὲν αὐτὰ ἐγὼ ἔλεγον καὶ ἐτιθέμην, ἴσως ἄν με ἐπέσκωπτες ὡς ἄρα καὶ ἐμοὶ κατὰ τὴν ἐκείνου συγγένειαν τὰ ἐν τοῖς λόγοις ἔργα ἀποδιδράσκει καὶ οὐκ ἐθέλει μένειν ὅπου ἄν τις αὐτὰ θῇ·
And if indeed I myself were saying and setting them down, perhaps you would mock me, that for me too, according to my relationship with him, the works in our discussions run away and are unwilling to remain where one sets them.
νῦν δὲ σαὶ γὰρ αἱ ὑποθέσεις εἰσίν.
But now—for the hypotheses are yours.
ἄλλου δή τινος δεῖ σκώμματος· οὐ γὰρ ἐθέλουσι σοὶ μένειν, ὡς καὶ αὐτῷ σοι δοκεῖ.
Some other mockery is indeed needed; for they are not willing to remain for you, as indeed it seems to you yourself.
ΕΥΘ. ἐμοὶ δὲ δοκεῖ σχεδόν τι τοῦ αὐτοῦ σκώμματος, ὦ Σώκρατες, δεῖσθαι τὰ λεγόμενα· τὸ γὰρ περιιέναι αὐτοῖς τοῦτο καὶ μὴ μένειν ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ οὐκ ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ἐντιθείς, ἀλλὰ σύ μοι δοκεῖς ὁ Δαίδαλος, ἐπεὶ ἐμοῦ γε ἕνεκα ἔμενεν ἂν ταῦτα οὕτως.
Euthyphro: But to me, Socrates, what is said seems to need almost the same mockery; for this going around of theirs and not remaining in the same place, I am not the one who puts it in, but you seem to me to be the Daedalus, since as far as I am concerned, these things would have remained as they were.
ΣΩ. κινδυνεύω ἄρα, ὦ ἑταῖρε, ἐκείνου τοῦ ἀνδρὸς δεινότερος γεγονέναι τὴν τέχνην τοσούτῳ, ὅσῳ ὁ μὲν τὰ αὑτοῦ μόνα ἐποίει οὐ μένοντα, ἐγὼ δὲ πρὸς τοῖς ἐμαυτοῦ, ὡς ἔοικε, καὶ τὰ ἀλλότρια.
Socrates: I seem then, my companion, to have become more clever in that man's art by so much, in as much as he made only his own works not remain, but I, as it seems, besides my own, also those of others.
καὶ δῆτα τοῦτό μοι τῆς τέχνης ἐστὶ κομψότατον, ὅτι ἄκων εἰμὶ σοφός· ἐβουλόμην γὰρ ἄν μοι τοὺς λόγους μένειν καὶ ἀκινήτως ἱδρῦσθαι μᾶλλον ἢ πρὸς τῇ Δαιδάλου σοφίᾳ τὰ Ταντάλου χρήματα γενέσθαι.
And indeed this is the most elegant thing about my art, that I am wise unwillingly; for I would have wished my arguments to remain and to be fixed immovably rather than to have the wealth of Tantalus in addition to Daedalus' wisdom.
καὶ τούτων μὲν ἅδην· ἐπειδὴ δέ μοι δοκεῖς σὺ τρυφᾶν, αὐτός σοι συμπροθυμήσομαι ὅπως ἄν με διδάξῃς περὶ τοῦ ὁσίου.
But of these things enough; since indeed you seem to me to be indolent, I myself will strive together with you so that you may teach me about the pious.
καὶ μὴ προαποκάμῃς· ἰδὲ γὰρ εἰ οὐκ ἀναγκαῖόν σοι δοκεῖ δίκαιον εἶναι πᾶν τὸ ὅσιον.
And do not tire beforehand; for see if it does not seem to you necessary that all the pious is just.
ΕΥΘ. ἔμοιγε.
Euthyphro: To me indeed it seems so.