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Thucydides · History of the Peloponnesian War §6.17.1-6.17.8

Alcibiades on Sicilian Weakness and Urging Expedition

Passage 633 of 917 · Greek

Summary

Alcibiades emphasizes that his youth and enthusiasm have succeeded in the Peloponnese, arguing that Sicilian cities are highly vulnerable due to internal factionalism and unstable populations. He urges Athens to proceed with the expedition without fearing the enemy, relying on their absolute naval superiority.

§6.17.1‘καὶ ταῦτα ἡ ἐμὴ νεότης καὶ ἄνοια παρὰ φύσιν δοκοῦσα εἶναι ἐς τὴν Πελοποννησίων δύναμιν λόγοις τε πρέπουσιν ὡμίλησε καὶ ὀργῇ πίστιν παρασχομένη ἔπεισεν.
"And these things my youth and folly, which seems to be contrary to nature, dealt with the power of the Peloponnesians with suitable words, and, providing trust by its passion, persuaded.
καὶ νῦν μὴ πεφόβησθε αὐτήν, ἀλλ’ ἕως ἐγώ τε ἔτι ἀκμάζω μετ’ αὐτῆς καὶ ὁ Νικίας εὐτυχὴς δοκεῖ εἶναι, ἀποχρήσασθε τῇ ἑκατέρου ἡμῶν ὠφελίᾳ.
And now do not fear it, but while I am still in my prime with it, and Nicias seems to be fortunate, make full use of the benefit of each of us.
§6.17.2καὶ τὸν ἐς τὴν Σικελίαν πλοῦν μὴ μεταγιγνώσκετε ὡς ἐπὶ μεγάλην δύναμιν ἐσόμενον.
And do not change your mind about the voyage to Sicily, as though it were to be against a great power.
ὄχλοις τε γὰρ ξυμμείκτοις πολυανδροῦσιν αἱ πόλεις καὶ ῥᾳδίας ἔχουσι τῶν πολιτῶν τὰς μεταβολὰς καὶ ἐπιδοχάς.
For the cities there are populated with mixed rabbles, and easily undergo changes and additions in their citizens.
§6.17.3καὶ οὐδεὶς δι’ αὐτὸ ὡς περὶ οἰκείας πατρίδος οὔτε τὰ περὶ τὸ σῶμα ὅπλοις ἐξήρτυται οὔτε τὰ ἐν τῇ χώρᾳ νομίμοις κατασκευαῖς· ὅτι δὲ ἕκαστος ἢ ἐκ τοῦ λέγων πείθειν οἴεται ἢ στασιάζων ἀπὸ τοῦ κοινοῦ λαβὼν ἄλλην γῆν, μὴ κατορθώσας, οἰκήσειν, ταῦτα ἑτοιμάζεται.
And because of this, no one is equipped with arms for his own body, nor has he established legal institutions in the country, as though for his own homeland; but what each one thinks he can obtain, either by persuading with his speech or by engaging in factional strife—taking it from the public—to settle in another land if he should fail, this is what he prepares.
§6.17.4καὶ οὐκ εἰκὸς τὸν τοιοῦτον ὅμιλον οὔτε λόγου μιᾷ γνώμῃ ἀκροᾶσθαι οὔτε ἐς τὰ ἔργα κοινῶς τρέπεσθαι· ταχὺ δ’ ἂν ὡς ἕκαστοι, εἴ τι καθ’ ἡδονὴν λέγοιτο, προσχωροῖεν, ἄλλως τε καὶ εἰ στασιάζουσιν, ὥσπερ πυνθανόμεθα.
And it is not likely that such a rabble would either listen to a speech with a single mind or turn to action in common; but they would quickly come over, group by group, if anything were said to their liking, especially if they are in factional strife, as we hear.
§6.17.5καὶ μὴν οὐδ’ ὁπλῖται οὔτ’ ἐκείνοις ὅσοιπερ κομποῦνται, οὔτε οἱ ἄλλοι Ἕλληνες διεφάνησαν τοσοῦτοι ὄντες ὅσους ἕκαστοι σφᾶς αὐτοὺς ἠρίθμουν, ἀλλὰ μέγιστον δὴ αὐτοὺς ἐψευσμένη ἡ Ἑλλὰς μόλις ἐν τῷδε τῷ πολέμῳ ἱκανῶς ὡπλίσθη.
And indeed, neither their heavy infantry, as many as they boast of, nor those of the other Greeks appeared to be as numerous as each state counted themselves, but Greece, having been greatly deceived regarding them, was with difficulty adequately armed in this war.
§6.17.6τά τε οὖν ἐκεῖ, ἐξ ὧν ἐγὼ ἀκοῇ αἰσθάνομαι, τοιαῦτα καὶ ἔτι εὐπορώτερα ἔσται (βαρβάρους [τε] γὰρ πολλοὺς ἕξομεν οἳ Συρακοσίων μίσει ξυνεπιθήσονται αὐτοῖς) καὶ τὰ ἐνθάδε οὐκ ἐπικωλύσει, ἢν ὑμεῖς ὀρθῶς βουλεύησθε.
Therefore, things there, as far as I learn from report, are such and will be even easier (for we shall have many barbarians who, out of hatred for the Syracusans, will join us in attacking them), and things here will not prevent us, if you plan rightly.
§6.17.7οἱ γὰρ πατέρες ἡμῶν τοὺς αὐτοὺς τούτους οὕσπερ νῦν φασὶ πολεμίους ὑπολείποντας ἂν ἡμᾶς πλεῖν καὶ προσέτι τὸν Μῆδον ἐχθρὸν ἔχοντες τὴν ἀρχὴν ἐκτήσαντο, οὐκ ἄλλῳ τινὶ ἢ τῇ περιουσίᾳ τοῦ ναυτικοῦ ἰσχύοντες.
For our fathers, having as enemies these very same people whom Nicias and his followers now say we are leaving behind as enemies when we sail, and in addition having the Mede as an enemy, acquired their empire, strong in nothing other than the superiority of their navy.
§6.17.8καὶ νῦν οὔτε ἀνέλπιστοί πω μᾶλλον Πελοποννήσιοι ἐς ἡμᾶς ἐγένοντο, εἴ τε καὶ πάνυ ἔρρωνται, τὸ μὲν ἐς τὴν γῆν ἡμῶν ἐσβάλλειν, κἂν μὴ ἐκπλεύσωμεν, ἱκανοί εἰσι, τῷ δὲ ναυτικῷ οὐκ ἂν δύναιντο βλάπτειν· ὑπόλοιπον γὰρ ἡμῖν ἐστὶν ἀντίπαλον ναυτικόν.
And now, the Peloponnesians have never been more hopeless of defeating us; and even if they are ever so strong, they are indeed able to invade our land, even if we do not sail out, but they would not be able to harm us with their navy; for we have a matching navy left behind."

Notes

  1. 6.17.1ταῦτα — The pronoun ταῦτα at the beginning of the sentence functions not as the direct object of the subsequent verbs ὡμίλησε or ἔπεισεν, but as an adverbial accusative (or accusative of respect) meaning 'in these matters' or 'in this way.'
  2. 6.17.3ὅτι δὲ ἕκαστος... οἰκήσειν — The pronoun ὅ τι (written as ὅτι in the manuscripts and text) introduces a relative clause modifying the demonstrative pronoun ταῦτα, which is the object of the main verb ἑτοιμάζεται. It refers to 'whatever each one thinks he will settle in (in another land if he should fail)' and functions as the semantic object of the infinitive οἰκήσειν.
  3. 6.17.7ὑπολείποντας ἂν ἡμᾶς πλεῖν — The particle ἂν goes with the infinitive πλεῖν, forming the apodosis of a conditional statement (potential or contrary-to-fact) in indirect discourse, representing Nicias' claim: 'that if we should sail, we would leave them behind as enemies.'

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Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War §6.17.1-6.17.8. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0003.tlg001.humanitext-grc2:6.17.1-6.17.8

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