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Ovid · The Heroines §17.200-17.268

Helen's Fear of Retribution and Room for Secret Talk

Passage 42 of 54 · Latin

Summary

Helen points out the volatility of Paris's love and expresses her fear of public disgrace and the inevitable retributive war led by Menelaus and her brothers, while teasing that his beautiful frame is better suited for love than war; she concludes her letter by leaving room for further covert communication through her maids.

§17.200Non potes.
You cannot.
expediunt iam tua vela Phryges; §17.201Dum loqueris mecum, dum nox sperata paratur, §17.202Qui ferat in patriam, iam tibi ventus erit.
Already the Phrygians are preparing your sails; while you speak with me, while the hoped-for night is being prepared, there will already be a wind for you to carry you to your fatherland.
§17.203Cursibus in mediis novitatis plena relinques §17.204Gaudia; cum ventis noster abibit amor.
In the middle of your journey, you will leave behind joys full of novelty; our love will depart with the winds.
§17.205An sequar, ut suades, laudataque Pergama visam §17.206Pronurus et magni Laumedontis ero?
Or shall I follow, as you persuade, and see praised Pergama as a bride of the son of great Laomedon?
§17.207Non ita contemno volucris praeconia famae, §17.208Ut probris terras inpleat illa meis.
I do not so despise the proclamations of swift-winged fame that she may fill the lands with my disgraces.
§17.209Quid de me poterit Sparte, quid Achaia tota, §17.210Quid gentes Asiae, quid tua Troia loqui?
What will Sparta be able to say of me, what all Achaea, what the nations of Asia, what your Troy?
§17.211Quid Priamus de me, Priami quid sentiet uxor, §17.212Totque tui fratres Dardanidesque nurus?
What will Priam think of me, what will Priam's wife feel, and your so many brothers and Dardanian brides?
§17.213Tu quoque, qui poteris fore me sperare fidelem, §17.214Et non exemplis anxius esse tuis?
You too, how will you be able to hope that I will be faithful, and not be anxious because of your own examples?
§17.215Quicumque Iliacos intraverit advena portus, §17.216Is tibi solliciti causa timoris erit.
Whosoever of strangers shall enter the Ilian ports, he will be a cause of anxious fear to you.
§17.217Ipse mihi quotiens iratus 'adultera!' dices, §17.218Oblitus nostro crimen inesse tuum!
You yourself, as often as you are angry, will say to me: "Adulteress!" forgetting that your own crime is inherent in our fault!
§17.219Delicti fies idem reprehensor et auctor.
You will become at once the blamer and the author of the same offense.
§17.220Terra, precor, vultus obruat ante meos!
Earth, I pray, bury my face before that happens!
§17.221At fruar Iliacis opibus cultuque beato, §17.222Donaque promissis uberiora feram; §17.223Purpura nempe mihi pretiosaque texta dabuntur, §17.224Congestoque auri pondere dives ero!
But (you say) I shall enjoy Ilian wealth and a blessed life, and I shall receive gifts more abundant than promised; surely purple and precious tapestries will be given to me, and I shall be rich with a heaped-up weight of gold!
§17.225Da veniam fassae — non sunt tua munera tanti; §17.226Nescio quo tellus me tenet ista modo.
Forgive me for confessing — your gifts are not of such great value; somehow or other that land of mine holds me back.
§17.227Quis mihi, si laedar, Phrygiis succurret in oris?
Who will help me on Phrygian shores if I should be harmed?
§17.228Unde petam fratres, unde parentis opem?
Whence shall I seek my brothers' help, whence my parent's?
§17.229Omnia Medeae fallax promisit Iason — §17.230Pulsa est Aesonia num minus illa domo?
Deceitful Jason promised everything to Medea — was she any less expelled from the house of Aeson?
§17.231Non erat Aeetes, ad quem despecta rediret, §17.232Non Idyia parens Chalciopeve soror.
There was no Aeetes to whom she, despised, could return, no mother Idyia, nor sister Chalciope.
§17.233Tale nihil timeo — sed nec Medea timebat!
I fear no such thing — but neither did Medea fear!
§17.234Fallitur augurio spes bona saepe suo.
Good hope is often deceived by its own augury.
§17.235Omnibus invenies, quae nunc iactantur in alto, §17.236Navibus a portu lene fuisse fretum.
For all ships that are now tossed on the deep, you will find that the sea was gentle as they left the port.
§17.237Fax quoque me terret, quam se peperisse cruentam §17.238Ante diem partus est tua visa parens; §17.239Et vatum timeo monitus, quos igne Pelasgo §17.240Ilion arsurum praemonuisse ferunt.
The torch also terrifies me, which your mother was seen to have given birth to as a bloody thing before the day of her delivery; and I fear the warnings of the prophets, whom they say forewarned that Ilion would burn with Pelasgian fire.
§17.241Utque favet Cytherea tibi, quia vicit habetque §17.242Parta per arbitrium bina tropaea tuum, §17.243Sic illas vereor, quae, si tua gloria vera est, §17.244Iudice te causam non tenuere duae; §17.245Nec dubito, quin, te si prosequar, arma parentur.
And just as Cytherea favors you, because she won and holds the double trophies won through your judgment, so I fear those two who, if your glory is true, did not win their cause with you as judge; nor do I doubt that, if I follow you, arms will be prepared.
§17.246Ibit per gladios, ei mihi! noster amor.
Our love, alas for me! will go through swords.
§17.247An fera Centauris indicere bella coegit §17.248Atracis Haemonios Hippodamia viros — §17.249Tu fore tam iusta lentum Menelaon in ira §17.250Et geminos fratres Tyndareumque putas?
Did Hippodamia, daughter of Atrax, compel the Haemonian men to declare fierce war on the Centaurs — and do you think that Menelaus will be slow in so just an anger, and the twin brothers, and Tyndareus?
§17.251Quod bene te iactes et fortia facta loquaris, §17.252A verbis facies dissidet ista tuis.
Although you boast well of yourself and speak of brave deeds, that face of yours dissents from your words.
§17.253Apta magis Veneri, quam sunt tua corpora Marti.
Your body is more suited for Venus than for Mars.
§17.254Bella gerant fortes, tu, Pari, semper ama!
Let the brave wage wars; you, Paris, always love!
§17.255Hectora, quem laudas, pro te pugnare iubeto; §17.256Militia est operis altera digna tuis.
Order Hector, whom you praise, to fight for you; the other warfare is worthy of your deeds.
§17.257His ego, si saperem pauloque audacior essem, §17.258Uterer; utetur, siqua puella sapit — §17.259Aut ego deposito sapiam fortasse pudore §17.260Et dabo cunctatas tempore victa manus.
These I would use, if I were wise and a little bolder; any girl will use them if she is wise — or perhaps I, having cast off shame, shall be wise and, conquered by time, shall give my long-delayed hands.
§17.261Quod petis, ut furtim praesentes ista loquamur, §17.262Scimus, quid captes conloquiumque voces; §17.263Sed nimium properas, et adhuc tua messis in herba est.
As to what you ask, that we speak of these things secretly in person, we know what you are chasing and what you call a conversation; but you hasten too much, and your harvest is still in the grass.
§17.264Et mora sit voto forsan amica tuo.
And delay may perhaps be friendly to your wish.
§17.265Hactenus; arcanum furtivae conscia mentis §17.266Littera iam lasso pollice sistat opus.
Thus far; let the letter, sharing the secret of a stealthy mind, now stop its work with a weary thumb.
§17.267Cetera per socias Clymenen Aethramque loquamur, §17.268Quae mihi sunt comites consiliumque duae.
Let us speak of the rest through our common friends Clymene and Aethra, who are both my companions and my counsel.

Notes

  1. 17.200Non potes — An elliptical expression supplying 'constans in amore manere' (to remain constant in love) from the preceding line. It expresses Helen's deep skepticism toward Paris's vows.
  2. 17.214exemplis ... tuis — The ablative 'exemplis' indicates cause or ground. It refers to the 'examples' set by Paris himself (i.e., his abandonment of Oenone), suggesting that he will be unable to trust Helen because of his own history of infidelity.
  3. 17.218crimen inesse tuum — An accusative-and-infinitival construction, where 'crimen tuum' (your own crime of seduction) is the subject of 'inesse' (to be inherent) within 'nostro [delicto]' (our fault).
  4. 17.241-242bina tropaea — Refers to the 'double trophies' won by Venus (Cytherea) over Juno and Minerva through the Judgment of Paris. 'parta per arbitrium ... tuum' (won through your judgment) modifies 'bina tropaea'.
  5. 17.247-250An fera Centauris... — The structure of this long sentence contrasts the mythological example in the first half ('An... coegit', did Hippodamia compel war?) with Helen's immediate situation in the second half ('tu... putas?', do you think Menelaus will be inactive?). It functions as a rhetorical question refuting Paris's optimism.

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Ovid, The Heroines §17.200-17.268. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:latinLit:phi0959.phi002.humanitext-lat2:17.200-17.268

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