§8.17.1ergo me potius in Hispania fuisse tum quam Formiis, quom tu profectus es ad Pompeium! quod utinam taut Appius Claudius in ista parte C. Curio, quoius amicitia me paulatim in hanc perditam causam imposuit; nam mihi sentio bonam mentem iracundia et amore ablatam.
To think, then, that I should rather have been in Spain at that time than at Formiae, when you set out for Pompey! Oh that either Appius Claudius <had been> on that side of yours, or C. Curio <on this side>, whose friendship has gradually forced me into this ruined cause; for I feel that my good sense has been taken away from me by anger and passion.
tu: tu porro, cum ad te proficiscens Ariminum noctu venissem, dum mihi pacis mandata das ad Caesarem et mirificum civem agis, amici officium neglexisti neque mi consuluisti.
You—and you furthermore, when I had set out towards you and come to Ariminum by night, while you were giving me instructions of peace to Caesar and playing the part of a wonderful citizen, neglected the duty of a friend and did not consult my interests.
§8.17.2neque haec dico quod diffidam huic causae, sed, crede mihi, perire satius est quam hos videre.
Nor do I say this because I distrust this cause, but, believe me, it is better to die than to look upon these men.
quod si timor vestrae crudelitatis non esset, eiecti iam pridem hinc essemus; nam hic nunc praeter faeneratores paucos nec homo nec ordo quisquam est nisi Pompeianus.
Indeed, if there were no fear of your cruelty, we would have been cast out from here long ago; for here now, except for a few money-lenders, there is neither any man nor any class that is not Pompeian.
equidem iam to effeci ut maxime plebs et, qui antea noster fuit, populus vester esset.
Indeed, I have already brought it about that the common people especially, and the populace which was previously ours, should be yours.
'cur hoc?' inquis.
"Why this?" you ask.
immo reliqua exspectate; vos invitos vincere coegero. †Arruntanum me Catonem; vos dormitis nec haec adhuc mihi videmini intellegere, qua nos pateamus et qua simus imbecilli.
Nay, wait for the rest; I shall have forced you to conquer against your will. <Call> me an †Arruntian Cato; you are asleep and do not yet seem to me to understand this: where we are exposed and where we are weak.
atque hoc nullius praemi spe faciam sed, quod apud me plurimum solet valere, doloris atque indignitatis causa.
And this I shall do with no hope of reward, but for the sake of pain and indignation, which usually have the greatest weight with me.
quid istic facitis? proelium exspectatis, quod firmissimum †haec? vestras copias non novi; nostri valde depugnare et facile algere et esurire consuerunt.
What are you doing over there? Are you waiting for a battle, which <is your> most secure †<defense>? I do not know your forces; our men are accustomed to fight hard and to bear cold and hunger easily.