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Plautus · Rudens §1064-1119

Plea to Daemones Concerning the Tokens in the Trunk

Passage 17 of 22 · Latin

Summary

Trachalio and Gripus argue before Daemones over the ownership of the trunk, as Trachalio pleads that the little chest inside contains tokens for a kidnapped free Athenian woman to find her parents.

§1064quam tuo dábis orationem?
Is a stranger to speak first, rather than you give speech to your own?
§1064bVt nequitur comprimi.
How he cannot be suppressed!
§1065ita ut occepi dicere, illum quem dudum e fano foras §1066lenonem extrusisti, hic eius vidulum eccillum tenet.
Just as I began to say, that pimp whom you thrust out of the temple doors a while ago, here this fellow holds his trunk, look at it.
§1067Non habeo.
I don't have it.
§1067bNegas quod oculis video?
Do you deny what I see with my eyes?
§1067cAt ne videas velim.
But I wish you wouldn't see it.
§1068habeo, non habeo: quid tu me curas quid rerum geram?
I have it, I don't have it: why do you care what business I manage?
§1069Quo modó habeas, id refert, iurene anne iniuria.
How you have it, that matters, whether by right or by wrong.
§1070Ni istum cepi, nulla causa est quin me condones cruci; §1071si in mari reti prehendi, qui tuom pótiust quam meum?
If I did not take that, there is no reason why you shouldn't sentence me to the cross; if I caught it in the sea with a net, how is it yours rather than mine?
§1072Verba dat.
He is deceitful.
hoc modo res gesta est ut ego dico.
The matter happened in this way as I say.
§1072bQuid tu ais?
What do you say?
§1073Quod primarius vir dicat: comprime hunc sis, si tuost.
What a first-class man would say: please suppress this fellow, if he is yours.
§1074Quid? tu idem mihi vis fieri quod erus consuevit tibi?
What? Do you want the same thing done to me that your master is accustomed to do to you?
§1075si ille te comprimere solitust, hic noster nos non solet.
If he is used to suppressing you, this master of ours is not used to doing so to us.
§1076Verbo illo modo ille vicit.
He just won by that word.
quid nunc tu vis? dic mihi.
What do you want now? Tell me.
§1077Equidem ego neque partem posco mi istinc de istoc vidulo §1078neque meum esse hodie umquam dixi; séd isti inest cistellula §1079huius mulieris, quam dudum dixi fuisse liberam.
Indeed, I do not demand for myself any share from that trunk there, nor did I ever say today that it is mine; but in it there is a little chest belonging to this woman, whom I said a while ago was free.
§1080Nempe tu hanc dícis quam esse aiebas dudum popularem meam?
Surely you mean this one whom you said a while ago was my fellow citizen?
§1081Admodum; et ea quae olim parva gestavit crepundia §1082istic ín ista cistula insunt, quae isti inest in vidulo.
Exactly; and those tokens which she once wore when small, are in that little chest there, which is inside that trunk.
§1083hoc neque isti usust, et illi miserae suppetias feret, §1084si id dederit, qui suos parentis quaerat.
This is of no use to that fellow, and it will bring help to that wretched woman, if he gives it, so that she may seek her parents.
§1084bFaciam ut det.
I will make him give it.
tace.
Be quiet.
§1085Nil hercle ego sum isti daturus.
By Hercules, I am going to give nothing to her.
§1085bNil peto nisi cistulam §1086et crepundia.
I ask for nothing except the little chest and the tokens.
§1086bQuid si ea sunt aurea?
What if they are of gold?
§1086cQuid istuc tua?
What is that to you?
§1087aurum auro expendetur, argentum argento exaequabitur.
Gold will be weighed against gold, silver will be equaled with silver.
§1088Fac sis aurum ut videam, post ego faciam ut videas cistulam.
Please make it so that I see the gold, and afterwards I will make it so that you see the little chest.
§1089Cave malo ac tace tú.
Beware of trouble and be quiet, you.
tu perge ut occepisti dicere.
You, proceed as you began to speak.
§1090Vnum te obsecro, ut ted huius commiserescat mulieris, §1091si quidem hic lenonis eiust vidulus, quem suspicor; §1092hic, nisi de opinione, certum nil dico tibi.
One thing I pray you, that you have pity on this woman, if indeed this is the trunk of that pimp, as I suspect; on this point, except for my opinion, I say nothing certain to you.
§1093Viden? scelestus aucupatur.
Do you see? The scoundrel is setting a trap.
§1093bSine me ut occepi loqui.
Allow me to speak as I began.
§1094si scelesti illius est hic, cuius dico, vidulus, §1095haec poterunt novisse: ostendere his iube.
If this trunk belongs to that scoundrel of whom I speak, these women will be able to recognize it: order him to show it to them.
§1095bAin? ostendere?
What do you say? Show it?
§1096Haud iniquom dicit, Gripe, ut ostendatur vidulus.
He says nothing unfair, Gripus, that the trunk should be shown.
§1097Immo hercle insignite inique.
On the contrary, by Hercules, remarkably unfair.
§1097bQuidum?
How so?
§1097cQuia, si ostendero, §1098continuo hunc novisse dicent scilicet.
Because, if I show it, they will of course immediately say they recognize it.
§1098bScelerum caput, §1099ut tute es, item omnis censes esse, periuri caput?
Head of crimes, do you think everyone is just as you are, head of perjury?
§1100Omnia istaéc ego facile patior, dúm hic hinc a me sentiat.
I easily endure all those things, as long as this man here decides for me.
§1101At qui nunc abs te stat, verum hinc ibi testimonium.
And yet, he who now stands by you, will offer true testimony from here to there.
§1102Gripe, advorte animum.
Gripus, pay attention.
tu paucis expedi, quid postulas.
You, explain in a few words what you demand.
§1103Dixi equidem, sed si parum intellexti, dicam denuo.
I have indeed said it, but if you understood too little, I will say it again.
§1104hasce ambas, ut dudum dixi, ita esse oportet liberas: §1105haec Athenis parva fúit virgo surpta.
Both of these women, as I said a while ago, ought to be free: this one was a small girl stolen from Athens.
§1105bDic mihi, §1106quid id ad vidulum, servae sint istae an fuerint liberae?
Tell me, what is that to the trunk, whether they are slaves or have been free?
§1107Omnia iterum vis memorari, scelus, ut defiat dies.
Do you want everything to be related again, villain, so that the day should fail us?
§1108Apstine maledictis et mihi quod rogavi dilue.
Abstain from insults and clear up for me what I asked.
§1109Cistellam isti inesse oportet caudeam ín isto vidulo, §1110ubi sunt signa qui parentes noscere haec possit suos, §1111quibuscum periit parva Athenis, sicuti dixi prius.
There ought to be a little chest made of wicker in that trunk, where there are tokens by which she can recognize her parents, with which she was lost when small in Athens, just as I said before.
§1112Iuppiter te dique perdant.
May Jupiter and the gods destroy you.
quid ais, vir venefice?
What do you say, sorcerer?
§1113quid, istae mutae sunt, quae pro se fabulari non queant?
What, are those women mute, who cannot speak for themselves?
§1114Eo tacent, quia tacitast melior mulier semper quam loquens.
They are silent for this reason, because a silent woman is always better than a speaking one.
§1115Tum pol tu pro portione nec vir nec mulier mihi es.
Then, by Pollux, in proportion you are neither man nor woman to me.
§1116Quidum?
How so?
§1116bQuia enim neque loquens es neque tacens umquam bonus.
Because you are never good, neither speaking nor silent.
§1117quaeso, enumquam hodie licebit mihi loqui?
I ask, will it ever be permitted for me to speak today?
§1117bSi praeterhac §1118unum verbum faxis hodie, ego tibi comminuam caput.
If you make even one word besides this today, I will smash your head.
§1119Vt id occepi diceré, senex, eam te quaeso cistulam
As I began to say that, old man, I ask you for that little chest...

Notes

  1. 1064bnequitur comprimi — nequitur is a rare passive third-person singular form of nequeo (to be unable), used impersonally here with the passive infinitive comprimi (to be suppressed). It expresses strong frustration: 'how it is impossible for him to be suppressed!'
  2. 1074erus consuevit tibi — consuevit (from consuesco, to grow accustomed) is in the perfect tense with a present meaning, taking the dative tibi (to you). Combined with comprimere (to suppress/embrace) in the next line, it functions as a double entendre characteristic of Roman comedy, implying both physical suppression and sexual abuse by the master.
  3. 1117bfaxis — faxis is an archaic or colloquial sigmatic future perfect subjunctive (equivalent to feceris from facio), used here in the conditional si-clause to express a firm warning about a future action: 'if you make [utter] even a single word.'

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