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Polybius · The Histories §3.20.1-3.20.10

Rome's Response to the Fall of Saguntum and Critique of Historians

Passage 179 of 1311 · Greek

Summary

Polybius refutes the claims of other historians that Rome debated the war after the fall of Saguntum, and describes Rome's immediate response and their dispatch of an ultimatum to Carthage.

§3.20.1οἱ δὲ Ῥωμαῖοι, προσπεπτωκυίας αὐτοῖς ἤδη τῆς τῶν Ζακανθαίων ἁλώσεως, οὐ μὰ Δία περὶ τοῦ πολέμου τότε διαβούλιον ἦγον, καθάπερ ἔνιοι τῶν συγγραφέων φασί, προσκατατάττοντες ἔτι καὶ τοὺς εἰς ἑκάτερα ῥηθέντας λόγους, πάντων ἀτοπώτατον πρᾶγμα ποιοῦντες.
But the Romans, when the news of the fall of Saguntum had already reached them, did not, by Heaven, then hold a debate about the war, as some historians assert, even adding the speeches made on both sides, which is the most absurd thing of all.
§3.20.2πῶς γὰρ οἷόν τʼ ἦν Ῥωμαίους τοὺς ἐνιαυτῷ πρότερον ἐπηγγελκότας πόλεμον Καρχηδονίοις, ἐὰν ἐπιβαίνωσι τῆς Ζακανθαίων χώρας, τούτους κατὰ κράτος ἑαλωκυίας αὐτῆς τῆς πόλεως τότε βουλεύεσθαι συνελθόντας πότερα πολεμητέον ἢ τοὐναντίον;
For how was it possible for the Romans, who a year before had declared war on the Carthaginians if they should set foot on the territory of Saguntum, to assemble and debate at the time when the city itself had been taken by storm, whether they ought to go to war or the opposite?
§3.20.3πῶς δὲ καὶ τίνα τρόπον ἅμα μὲν τὴν στυγνότητα τοῦ συνεδρίου παρεισάγουσι θαυμάσιον, ἅμα δὲ τοὺς υἱοὺς ἀπὸ δώδεκʼ ἐτῶν ἄγειν φασὶ τοὺς πατέρας εἰς τὸ συνέδριον, οὓς μετέχοντας τῶν διαβουλίων οὐδὲ τῶν ἀναγκαίων οὐδενὶ προΐεσθαι τῶν ἀπορρήτων οὐδέν;
And how and in what manner do they on the one hand introduce a wonderful gravity in the senate, and on the other hand say that fathers brought their sons from twelve years of age into the senate, who, though participating in the deliberations, did not betray any of the secrets even to any of their nearest relations?
§3.20.4ὧν οὔτʼ εἰκὸς οὔτʼ ἀληθές ἐστι τὸ παράπαν οὐδέν, εἰ μὴ νὴ Δία πρὸς τοῖς ἄλλοις ἡ τύχη καὶ τοῦτο προσένειμε Ῥωμαίοις, τὸ φρονεῖν αὐτοὺς εὐθέως ἐκ γενετῆς.
Of which there is absolutely nothing probable or true, unless indeed, besides their other advantages, Fortune bestowed this also upon the Romans, that they should be wise straight from their birth.
§3.20.5πρὸς μὲν οὖν τὰ τοιαῦτα τῶν συγγραμμάτων οἷα γράφει Χαιρέας καὶ Σωσύλος οὐδὲν ἂν δέοι πλέον λέγειν· οὐ γὰρ ἱστορίας, ἀλλὰ κουρεακῆς καὶ πανδήμου λαλιᾶς ἔμοιγε δοκοῦσι τάξιν ἔχειν καὶ δύναμιν.
Concerning therefore such writings as those of Chaereas and Sosylus, there is no need to say more; for to me they seem to have the character and value not of history, but of the gossip of a barber's shop and of the vulgar crowd.
§3.20.6Ῥωμαῖοι δέ, προσπεσόντος σφίσι τοῦ γεγονότος κατὰ τοὺς Ζακανθαίους ἀτυχήματος, παραχρῆμα πρεσβευτὰς ἑλόμενοι κατὰ σπουδὴν ἐξαπέστειλαν εἰς τὴν Καρχηδόνα, §3.20.7δύο προτείνοντες αὐτοῖς, ὧν τὸ μὲν αἰσχύνην ἅμα καὶ βλάβην ἐδόκει φέρειν δεξαμένοις τοῖς Καρχηδονίοις, τὸ δʼ ἕτερον πραγμάτων καὶ κινδύνων ἀρχὴν μεγάλων.
But the Romans, when the news of the disaster that had befallen the Saguntines reached them, immediately chose ambassadors and dispatched them in haste to Carthage, offering them two alternatives, of which the one seemed to bring shame as well as loss to the Carthaginians if they accepted it, while the other was the beginning of great troubles and dangers.
§3.20.8ἢ γὰρ τὸν στρατηγὸν Ἀννίβαν καὶ τοὺς μετʼ αὐτοῦ συνέδρους ἐκδότους διδόναι Ῥωμαίοις ἐπέταττον, ἢ προήγγελλον τὸν πόλεμον.
For they demanded either that they should deliver up to the Romans the general Hannibal and the councillors with him, or they declared war.
§3.20.9παραγενομένων δὲ τῶν Ῥωμαίων καὶ παρελθόντων εἰς τὸ συνέδριον καὶ διασαφούντων ταῦτα, δυσχερῶς ἤκουον οἱ Καρχηδόνιοι τὴν αἵρεσιν τῶν προτεινομένων.
When the Romans arrived and entered the senate and declared these terms, the Carthaginians heard with heavy hearts the choice proposed to them.
§3.20.10ὅμως δὲ προστησάμενοι τὸν ἐπιτηδειότατον ἐξ αὑτῶν ἤρξαντο περὶ σφῶν
But yet, having put forward the most suitable of their number to speak, they began to plead their cause

Notes

  1. §3.20.1προσπεπτωκυίας αὐτοῖς ἤδη τῆς τῶν Ζακανθαίων ἁλώσεως — Genitive absolute acting as an adverbial modifier of time or concession ("when the news of the fall... had already reached them") in relation to the main subject of the sentence, οἱ δὲ Ῥωμαῖοι.
  2. §3.20.2τοὺς ἐνιαυτῷ πρότερον ἐπηγγελκότας ... τούτους ... βουλεύεσθαι — In the accusative-and-infinitive construction introduced by πῶς γὰρ οἷόν τʼ ἦν, the pronoun τούτους redundantly resumes the subject Ῥωμαίους (modified by the long participle clause τοὺς ἐνιαυτῷ πρότερον ἐπηγγελκότας...) for clarity and emphasis after a long interpolation.
  3. §3.20.3οὓς μετέχοντας τῶν διαβουλίων οὐδὲ τῶν ἀναγκαίων οὐδενὶ προΐεσθαι τῶν ἀπορρήτων οὐδέν — The relative pronoun in the accusative οὕς (referring to τοὺς υἱούς) acts as the subject of the infinitive προΐεσθαι within the indirect speech. The double negation οὐδὲ ... οὐδέν strengthens the negative statement. τῶν ἀναγκαίων, a genitive meaning "relatives" or "close connections", modifies οὐδενὶ ("to none of their nearest relations").
  4. §3.20.5ἂν δέοι — Potential optative of the impersonal verb δεῖ with the particle ἄν, expressing a mild assertion of possibility or denial of necessity in the present ("there would be no need").

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Polybius, The Histories §3.20.1-3.20.10. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0543.tlg001.humanitext-grc2:3.20.1-3.20.10

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