§401παράδοξον φανεῖται, τὰ τῶν Ἀθηναίων ἁμαρτήματα ἐκείνους μὲν σώζει, φιλανθρωπεύσασθαι δʼ ἡμᾶς ἀναγκάζει.
It will seem paradoxical that the errors of the Athenians save those men, while forcing us to act humanely.
τί δή ποτε;
Why indeed?
ὅτι εἰ τότε τοῖς Ἀθηναίοις νεμεσᾶν ᾠόμεθα δεῖν, εἴ τινας τῶν Ἑλλήνων ὑφʼ αὑτοῖς ποιοῦνται, κομιδῆ νῦν ἡμῖν αὐτούς γʼ ἀνελεῖν οὐκ ἔνεστιν.
Because if we then thought we ought to be indignant with the Athenians because they were making some of the Greeks subject to themselves, it is absolutely impossible for us now to destroy them themselves.
οὔτε γὰρ τῆς ἐλευθερίας ἀποστερῆσαι δή που καὶ καθάπαξ διαφθεῖραι παραπλήσιον οὔθʼ ὅτʼ ἐκείνοις τοὔλαττον οὐχ ἥρμοττεν, ὑμῖν γε τὸ μεῖζον ἐγχωρεῖ.
For to deprive of freedom and to utterly destroy are surely not similar, nor, when the lesser was not fitting for them, is the greater permissible for you.
καὶ μὴν οὐδʼ ἐκεῖνό γʼ ἔστιν εἰπεῖν, ὅτι τοὺς μὲν ἄλλους ἅπαντας αὐτονόμους ἔδει ποιεῖν καὶ κινδυνεύειν ὑπὲρ τούτου, τὸ δὲ τῶν Ἀθηναίων οὕτω σφόδρα ἐν οὐδενὶ θέσθαι ὥστʼ ἄρδην ἀπολέσαι, σῶσαι παρὸν, ἂν μόνον ψηφίσησθε;
And indeed, not even that can be said: that it was necessary to make all the others autonomous and to run risks for this, but to treat the case of the Athenians so utterly as nothing as to destroy them root and branch, when it is possible to save them, if only you would vote so?
ὅπου γὰρ εἰ μόνους τῶν ἁπάντων ἠξιοῦτε δουλεύειν, οὐ πρὸς ὑμῶν ἦν, ἦ που τό γʼ ἐξελεῖν οὐδʼ ἐγγύς.
For where even if you thought they alone of all should be enslaved, it was not in your interest, surely to root them out is not even close.
ἃ δʼ αὖ περὶ τοὺς Σκιωναίους καὶ Μηλίους ἐξήμαρτον πῶς οὐκ ἄτοπον κατηγορεῖν μὲν καὶ λέγειν ὡς ἁμαρτήματα συμβαίη, μιμεῖσθαι δʼ ἀξιοῦν ὡς ὀρθῶς ἔχοντα, καὶ μὴ λογίζεσθαι μηδʼ ὁρᾶν ὅτι τοῖς μὲν Ἀθηναίοις καὶ λόγος τις ὑπῆν ἴσως ταῦτα ποιοῦσι· —καὶ γὰρ ὡς ὑπʼ ἐλαττόνων ἐδόκουν ὑβρίζεσθαι καὶ ὡς οὐχὶ δικαίως ἐμισοῦντο καὶ ὡς οὐκ ἔπειθον προκαλούμενοι καὶ ἄλλα τοιαῦτʼ ἴσως εἴποιεν ἂν, οὐκ ἰσχυρὰ λέγοντες οὐδʼ ἀποχρῶντα, φημὶ κἀγὼ, ὅμως δʼ ἔχουσιν ἀναισχυντῆσαι—ἡμῖν δʼ οὐδὲ λόγος καταλείπεται τὸ μὴ ταῦτʼ ἔσεσθαι δεδρακότας ὧν αὐτοὶ κατεψηφίσμεθα καὶ ἃ διωρίσμεθα μὴ δεῖν ἐν τοῖς Ἕλλησι γίγνεσθαι.
And on the other hand, concerning the wrongs they committed against the Scionaeans and Melians, how is it not absurd to accuse them and say that they happened as errors, yet to deem it right to imitate them as if they were correct, and not to consider nor see that even for the Athenians there was perhaps some excuse when they did these things; —for they might say that they seemed to be insulted by lesser men, and that they were not justly hated, and that they did not persuade when issuing challenges, and other such things, speaking words that are neither strong nor sufficient, as I too agree, but nevertheless they have the face to say so— but for us not even an excuse is left for not being those who have done these things, which we ourselves condemned and which we determined ought not to happen among the Greeks.
τί γὰρ δὴ καὶ τὸ δεινὸν ἐκείνοις ἔτι δόξει πεπρᾶχθαι παρά γʼ ὑμῖν κριταῖς, εἴπερ ὑμῖν γε μηδὲν εἶναι δόξει δεινὸν Ἀθήνας ἀπολωλέναι;
For what terrible deed will they still be thought to have committed before you as judges, if indeed to destroy Athens will seem to you to be nothing terrible?
οἶμαι δʼ, εἰ μέν τις, ὦ ἄνδρες Λακεδαιμόνιοι, τὴν Μαραθῶνι μάχην ἢ τὴν ἐν Σαλαμῖνι ναυμαχίαν Ἀθηναίων ὑμᾶς κελεύοι μιμεῖσθαι, οὐκ ὀρθῶς ἔχειν ἀποδέχεσθαι, πλημμελείας δὲ τοιαύτας ἥκιστα πάντων.
And I think, men of Lacedaemon, if anyone should urge you to imitate the battle of Marathon or the naval battle of Salamis of the Athenians, it would not be right to accept it, but such transgressions least of all.
εἰ δʼ αὖ μηδὲ τὰ κάλλιστα τῶν ἔργων ἑτέρωθεν ἡμῖν προσήκει λαμβάνειν, ἀλλʼ αὐτοὺς μᾶλλον εἶναι παράδειγμα τοῖς ἄλλοις, ἦ που τά γε χείριστα τῶν ἐκείνοις πεπραγμένων κομιδῆ τετυφωμένων §402ὑμῖν προξενεῖν.
And if on the other hand it is not fitting for us to adopt even the finest of deeds from elsewhere, but rather to be ourselves an example to the others, surely to bring upon you the worst of their deeds is the mark of those who are utterly deluded, to bring them upon you.
ἐμοὶ μὲν γὰρ καὶ ὑπερβολὴ προσγίγνεσθαι δοκεῖ διʼ ἀμφοῖν· οἵ τε γὰρ δρῶντες Λακεδαιμόνιοι καὶ οὐκ Ἀθηναῖοι οἵ τε πάσχοντες Ἀθηναῖοι καὶ οὐ Σκιωναῖοι, ὧν οὐδὲ τοὔνομα πολλοῖς γνώριμον.
For to me a double excess seems to be added on account of both; for those who do it are Lacedaemonians and not Athenians, and those who suffer are Athenians and not Scionaeans, of whom not even the name is known to many.
ἔπειτα καὶ οὗτοί μοι δοκοῦσιν ἡμῶν γε κρατήσαντες οὐδὲν ἂν πλέον ζητῆσαι, ἀλλʼ αἰσχυνθέντες ἂν τὸ σχῆμα καὶ τὰς ἀρετὰς ἐνταῦθά που στῆναι.
Furthermore, even these men, if they had conquered us, seem to me to would have sought nothing more, but, respecting our dignity and virtues, would have stopped somewhere here.
ἴσμεν δʼ ὅτι καὶ τοὺς ἐκ Πύλου τρόπον τινὰ ᾐσχύνθησαν.
And we know that they also respected those from Pylos in some manner.
μὴ τοίνυν ἀνθʼ ὅτων αὐτοὺς τιμωρήσεσθε σκοπεῖτε, ἀλλʼ οὕστινας ὄντας καὶ τίνες ὄντες αὐτοὶ καὶ τὸ μέτρον τῆς τιμωρίας.
Do not, therefore, consider on what grounds you will punish them, but who they are, and who you yourselves are, and the measure of the punishment.
ἔξεστι νῦν Αἰγινήταις κομίσασθαι τὴν ἑαυτῶν· ἀλλʼ ἐὰν ἡμεῖς Ἀθηναίους αὐτοὺς μὲν διαφθείρωμεν, τὴν δὲ πόλιν κατασκάψωμεν, οὐδʼ αὐτοῖς ἡμῖν βουληθεῖσι μεταγνῶναι πλέον οὐδʼ ὁτιοῦν λείπεται.
Now it is possible for the Aeginetans to recover their own; but if we destroy the Athenians themselves and raze their city, not even for ourselves, should we wish to change our minds, is anything more left at all.
πάντων δʼ ἥκιστα ἔγωγε ᾤμην ἐγχωρεῖν τοῖς μεμφομένοις τοὺς Ἀθηναίους ταῦτα εἰσηγεῖσθαι.
And least of all did I think it permissible for those who blame the Athenians to propose these things.
εἰ μὲν γὰρ δικαίως αὐτοῖς πεποίηται, τί μέμφονται;
For if it was done justly by them, why do they blame them?
εἰ δʼ οὐ μέτρια ἐποίουν, πῶς ὑμῖν γε καλὸν τοσοῦτον παρελθεῖν ἀναλγησίᾳ;
But if they were doing what was not moderate, how is it honorable for you to surpass them so much in callousness?
οἶμαι γὰρ, ἂν μὲν αὐτῶν φείσησθε, ἔργῳ τὰς κατηγορίας βεβαιώσειν καὶ δείξειν ὁποίους τινὰς εἶναι χρῆν περὶ τοὺς Ἕλληνας, ἂν δʼ ἀνέλητε, κάλλιστα ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν ἀπολογήσεσθε.
For I think that if you spare them, you will confirm the accusations by deed and show what sort of people they ought to have been towards the Greeks, but if you destroy them, you will make the finest defense on their behalf.
ὥσπερ γὰρ ἐν τοῖς ἄθλοις οἱ νικήσαντες φέρονται τοὔνομα, οὕτως ὑμεῖς, ἂν ὑπερβάλησθε τὴν ἐκείνων εὐχέρειαν, αὐτοὶ τῆς ἀδοξίας κληρονομήσετε.
For just as in the games the victors win the name, so you, if you surpass their recklessness, will yourselves inherit the ill repute.
οὕτως ἐπεξιόντες μὲν ἀφίετε αἰτίας αὐτοὺς, συγγνόντες δὲ ἐλέγχετε.
Thus, by prosecuting you acquit them of blame, but by forgiving you convict them.
καὶ μὴν οὐδʼ ἐκεῖνό γε δεῖ λαθεῖν ὑμᾶς, ὅτι νῦν μὲν πρὸς ὀργὴν ὧν ἐγκαλοῦσιν ἡδέως ἂν αὐτοὺς ὁτιοῦν παθόντας ἴδοιεν οἱ Ἕλληνες, χρόνου δʼ ἐγγενομένου καὶ λογισμῷ τὸ πρᾶγμα λαβόντες τοῖς μὲν συναλγήσουσιν, ὑμῖν δὲ μέμψονται.
And indeed, you must not fail to notice this either: that now, out of anger at what they accuse them of, the Greeks would gladly see them suffer anything, but when time has elapsed and they take the matter with reflection, they will sympathize with them and blame you.
πολλαὶ δὲ μεταβολαὶ τῶν πραγμάτων· ἃ χρὴ προσκοπεῖν καὶ νομίζειν τοὺς προφέροντας ἐκείνοις τὰ Μηλίων ἢ Σκιωναίων πάθη καὶ ὑμῖν προφέρειν τὰ Πλαταιέων.
And there are many turn of events; which those who bring up the sufferings of the Melians or Scionaeans against them must foresee, and think that they will also bring up those of the Plataeans against you.
ἀλλʼ οὔθʼ ἃ τοῦ πολέμου τοῦ συνεχοῦς ἦν, ταῦτʼ ἐπὶ τῷ τέλει καὶ ἡνίκʼ ἔξεστι πεπαῦσθαι πράξασι τὴν ἴσην ἔχει συγγνώμην, οὔθʼ ὡς πλεῖστα δή που τὰ τοιαῦτα γίγνεσθαι καλὸν, ἀλλʼ ἐξ
But neither do the things that belonged to continuous war have the same excuse for those who do them at the end and when it is possible to cease, nor is it honorable for such things to happen as often as possible, but...