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Plato · Symposium §175

Arrival of Socrates and exchange with Agathon on wisdom

Passage 3 of 36 · Greek

Summary

Aristodemus is welcomed at Agathon's dinner, and Socrates, arriving later, sits next to Agathon. Agathon hopes to share in Socrates' wisdom, but Socrates humorously compares wisdom to water flowing between cups, remaining humble.

§175ὄπισθεν ἐμοῦ ἄρτι εἰσῄει· ἀλλὰ θαυμάζω καὶ αὐτὸς ποῦ ἂν εἴη. οὐ σκέψῃ, ἔφη, παῖ, φάναι τὸν Ἀγάθωνα, καὶ εἰσάξεις Σωκράτη;
"He was just coming in behind me; but I too wonder where on earth he might be." "Boy," Agathon said, "will you not look for Socrates and bring him in?
σὺ δʼ, ἦ δʼ ὅς, Ἀριστόδημε, παρʼ Ἐρυξίμαχον κατακλίνου. καὶ ἓ μὲν ἔφη ἀπονίζειν τὸν παῖδα ἵνα κατακέοιτο· ἄλλον δέ τινα τῶν παίδων ἥκειν ἀγγέλλοντα ὅτι Σωκράτης οὗτος ἀναχωρήσας ἐν τῷ τῶν γειτόνων προθύρῳ ἕστηκεν, κἀμοῦ καλοῦντος οὐκ ἐθέλει εἰσιέναι. ἄτοπόν γʼ, ἔφη, λέγεις·
And you, Aristodemus, recline next to Eryximachus." And he said one servant washed his feet so that he might recline; while another of the servants came reporting that "Our Socrates has withdrawn and is standing in the porch of the neighbors, and although I call him, he is not willing to enter." "How strange," he said.
οὔκουν καλεῖς αὐτὸν καὶ μὴ ἀφήσεις; καὶ ὃς ἔφη εἰπεῖν μηδαμῶς, ἀλλʼ ἐᾶτε αὐτόν.
"Will you not call him then, and not let him go?" And he said he replied, "By no means, let him be.
ἔθος γάρ τι τοῦτʼ ἔχει· ἐνίοτε ἀποστὰς ὅποι ἂν τύχῃ ἕστηκεν.
For he has this sort of habit; sometimes he withdraws and stands wherever he happens to be.
ἥξει δʼ αὐτίκα, ὡς ἐγὼ οἶμαι.
He will come directly, I think.
μὴ οὖν κινεῖτε, ἀλλʼ ἐᾶτε. ἀλλʼ οὕτω χρὴ ποιεῖν, εἰ σοὶ δοκεῖ, ἔφη φάναι τὸν Ἀγάθωνα.
So do not disturb him, but let him be." "Well, if it seems best to you, we must do so," Agathon said.
ἀλλʼ ἡμᾶς, ὦ παῖδες, τοὺς ἄλλους ἑστιᾶτε.
"But, boys, entertain the rest of us.
πάντως παρατίθετε ὅτι ἂν βούλησθε, ἐπειδάν τις ὑμῖν μὴ ἐφεστήκῃ—ὃ ἐγὼ οὐδεπώποτε ἐποίησα—νῦν οὖν, νομίζοντες καὶ ἐμὲ ὑφʼ ὑμῶν κεκλῆσθαι ἐπὶ δεῖπνον καὶ τούσδε τοὺς ἄλλους, θεραπεύετε, ἵνʼ ὑμᾶς ἐπαινῶμεν. μετὰ ταῦτα ἔφη σφᾶς μὲν δειπνεῖν, τὸν δὲ Σωκράτη οὐκ εἰσιέναι.
By all means serve whatever you wish, whenever no one is standing over you as supervisor—which I have never done—so now, regarding both me and these other guests as having been invited to dinner by you, serve us, so that we may praise you." After this, he said that they dined, but Socrates did not enter.
τὸν οὖν Ἀγάθωνα πολλάκις κελεύειν μεταπέμψασθαι τὸν Σωκράτη, ἓ δὲ οὐκ ἐᾶν.
So Agathon repeatedly ordered them to send for Socrates, but Aristodemus would not let them.
ἥκειν οὖν αὐτὸν οὐ πολὺν χρόνον ὡς εἰώθει διατρίψαντα, ἀλλὰ μάλιστα σφᾶς μεσοῦν δειπνοῦντας.
So he came, not having delayed for a long time as he was accustomed to do, but when they were just about in the middle of their dinner.
τὸν οὖν Ἀγάθωνα—τυγχάνειν γὰρ ἔσχατον κατακείμενον μόνον—δεῦρʼ, ἔφη φάναι, Σώκρατες, παρʼ ἐμὲ κατάκεισο, ἵνα καὶ τοῦ σοφοῦ ἁπτόμενός σου ἀπολαύσω, ὅ σοι προσέστη ἐν τοῖς προθύροις.
Agathon then—for he happened to be reclining alone at the far end—said, "Socrates, come here and recline next to me, so that by touching you I may enjoy your wisdom, which came to you in the porch.
δῆλον γὰρ ὅτι ηὗρες αὐτὸ καὶ ἔχεις· οὐ γὰρ ἂν προαπέστης. καὶ τὸν Σωκράτη καθίζεσθαι καὶ εἰπεῖν ὅτι εὖ ἂν ἔχοι, φάναι, ὦ Ἀγάθων, εἰ τοιοῦτον εἴη ἡ σοφία ὥστʼ ἐκ τοῦ πληρεστέρου εἰς τὸ κενώτερον ῥεῖν ἡμῶν, ἐὰν ἁπτώμεθα ἀλλήλων, ὥσπερ τὸ ἐν ταῖς κύλιξιν ὕδωρ τὸ διὰ τοῦ ἐρίου ῥέον ἐκ τῆς πληρεστέρας εἰς τὴν κενωτέραν.
For it is clear that you found it and have it; for otherwise you would not have stood aside from there." And Socrates sat down and said, "It would be well, Agathon, if wisdom were of such a kind as to flow from the fuller of us to the emptier, if we touch one another, just as water in cups flows through a wool thread from the fuller cup to the emptier.
εἰ γὰρ οὕτως ἔχει καὶ ἡ σοφία, πολλοῦ τιμῶμαι τὴν παρὰ σοὶ κατάκλισιν· οἶμαι γάρ με παρὰ σοῦ πολλῆς καὶ καλῆς σοφίας πληρωθήσεσθαι.
For if wisdom also behaves in this way, I value highly my reclining next to you; for I think I shall be filled by you with much and beautiful wisdom.
ἡ μὲν γὰρ ἐμὴ φαύλη τις ἂν εἴη, ἢ καὶ ἀμφισβητήσιμος ὥσπερ ὄναρ οὖσα, ἡ δὲ σὴ λαμπρά τε καὶ πολλὴν ἐπίδοσιν ἔχουσα, ἥ γε παρὰ σοῦ νέου ὄντος οὕτω σφόδρα ἐξέλαμψεν καὶ ἐκφανὴς ἐγένετο πρῴην ἐν μάρτυσι τῶν Ἑλλήνων πλέον ἢ τρισμυρίοις. ὑβριστὴς εἶ, ἔφη, ὦ Σώκρατες, ὁ Ἀγάθων.
For my own would be a worthless sort, or even questionable like a dream, but yours is bright and has great promise, which shone out so strongly from you, young as you are, and became manifest the day before yesterday in the presence of more than thirty thousand Greek witnesses." "You are mocking me, Socrates," Agathon said.
καὶ ταῦτα μὲν καὶ ὀλίγον ὕστερον διαδικασόμεθα ἐγώ τε καὶ σὺ περὶ τῆς σοφίας, δικαστῇ χρώμενοι τῷ Διονύσῳ· νῦν δὲ πρὸς τὸ δεῖπνον πρῶτα τρέπου.
"And we will settle this dispute about wisdom, you and I, a little later, using Dionysus as our judge; but now turn first to the dinner."

Notes

  1. 175aκαὶ ἓ μὲν ἔφη ἀπονίζειν τὸν παῖδα — The accusative pronoun `ἕ` (written here with smooth breathing `ἓ` due to clitic coordination) refers back to the intermediate narrator, Aristodemus, in the indirect discourse. It indicates that the servant washed Aristodemus's feet.
  2. 175bἐπειδάν τις ὑμῖν μὴ ἐφεστήκῃ — The conjunction `ἐπειδάν` (`ἐπειδή` + `ἄν`) followed by the subjunctive `ἐφεστήκῃ` expresses a general temporal or conditional clause ("whenever no one stands over you").
  3. 175cἓ δὲ οὐκ ἐᾶν — Similarly, `ἕ` (here written as `ἓ`) functions as the subject accusative of the infinitive `ἐᾶν` in the indirect discourse, referring to Aristodemus, meaning "but he (Aristodemus) would not allow it."
  4. 175dὅ σοι προσέστη — The neuter relative pronoun `ὅ` has as its antecedent the substantivized neuter `τοῦ σοφοῦ` ("the wise thing/wisdom") from the preceding phrase. The verb `προσέστη` is the third-person singular aorist of `προσίστημι`, meaning here "occurred to" or "presented itself to."
  5. 175eἐξέλαμψεν — The form `ἐξέλαμψεν` contains a typographical error (likely due to an OCR issue replacing the Greek ending with a Chinese character); the correct reading is `ἐξέλαμψεν` (the third-person singular active aorist indicative of `ἐκλάμπω`, "to shine forth," with movable ν).

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Plato, Symposium §175. Humanitext Reader, https://reader.humanitext.ai/en/text/urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg011.humanitext-grc2:175

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