§220ΞΕ. πῶς δὲ οὐκ ἔστον;
STR. And how should they not exist?
καὶ δεῖ γε ἡμᾶς τὸ μὲν τῶν ἀψύχων, ἀνώνυμον ὂν πλὴν κατʼ ἔνια τῆς κολυμβητικῆς ἄττα μέρη καὶ τοιαῦτʼ ἄλλα βραχέα, χαίρειν ἐᾶσαι, τὸ δέ, τῶν ἐμψύχων ζῴων οὖσαν θήραν, προσειπεῖν ζῳοθηρικήν.
And indeed we must let the one concerning inanimate things go—since it is nameless except for some parts of diving and other such minor things—and call the other, which is the hunt for animate creatures, animal-hunting.
ΘΕΑΙ. ἔστω.
THEAI. So be it.
ΞΕ. ζῳοθηρικῆς δὲ ἆρʼ οὐ διπλοῦν εἶδος ἂν λέγοιτο ἐν δίκῃ, τὸ μὲν πεζοῦ γένους, πολλοῖς εἴδεσι καὶ ὀνόμασι διῃρημένον, πεζοθηρικόν, τὸ δʼ ἕτερον νευστικοῦ ζῴου πᾶν ἐνυγροθηρικόν;
STR. And might not two kinds of animal-hunting be justly spoken of: the one, concerning the land-walking class, divided into many kinds and names, land-hunting; and the other, the whole of the swimming animal, water-hunting?
ΘΕΑΙ. πάνυ γε.
THEAI. Quite so.
ΞΕ. νευστικοῦ μὴν τὸ μὲν πτηνὸν φῦλον ὁρῶμεν, τὸ δὲ ἔνυδρον;
STR. Indeed, of the swimming kind, do we not see one that is the winged class, and the other the water-dwelling?
ΘΕΑΙ. πῶς δʼ οὔ;
THEAI. How could we not?
ΞΕ. καὶ τοῦ πτηνοῦ μὴν γένους πᾶσα ἡμῖν ἡ θήρα λέγεταί πού τις ὀρνιθευτική.
STR. And indeed, all hunting of the winged kind is called among us, I suppose, fowling?
ΘΕΑΙ. λέγεται γὰρ οὖν.
THEAI. Yes, indeed.
ΞΕ. τοῦ δὲ ἐνύδρου σχεδὸν τὸ σύνολον ἁλιευτική.
STR. And that of the water-dwelling, taken as a whole, is pretty much fishing?
ΘΕΑΙ. ναί.
THEAI. Yes.
ΞΕ. τί δέ;
STR. What then?
ταύτην αὖ τὴν θήραν ἆρʼ οὐκ ἂν κατὰ μέγιστα μέρη δύο διέλοιμεν;
Might we not divide this hunting again into two greatest parts?
ΘΕΑΙ. κατὰ ποῖα;
THEAI. Into what kinds?
ΞΕ. καθʼ ἃ τὸ μὲν ἕρκεσιν αὐτόθεν ποιεῖται τὴν θήραν, τὸ δὲ πληγῇ.
STR. According to which the one performs the hunting directly by enclosures, and the other by a blow.
ΘΕΑΙ. πῶς λέγεις, καὶ πῇ διαιρούμενος ἑκάτερον;
THEAI. How do you mean, and in what way do you divide each?
ΞΕ. τὸ μέν, ὅτι πᾶν ὅσον ἂν ἕνεκα κωλύσεως εἴργῃ τι περιέχον, ἕρκος εἰκὸς ὀνομάζειν.
STR. The one, because it is reasonable to name everything that encloses something to confine it for the sake of prevention an enclosure.
ΘΕΑΙ. πάνυ μὲν οὖν.
THEAI. Absolutely.
ΞΕ. κύρτους δὴ καὶ δίκτυα καὶ βρόχους καὶ πόρκους καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα μῶν ἄλλο τι πλὴν ἕρκη χρὴ προσαγορεύειν;
STR. Weirs and nets and nooses and baskets and suchlike—should we call them anything else but enclosures?
ΘΕΑΙ. οὐδέν.
THEAI. Nothing else.
ΞΕ. τοῦτο μὲν ἄρα ἑρκοθηρικὸν τῆς ἄγρας τὸ μέρος φήσομεν ἤ τι τοιοῦτον.
STR. Then we shall call this part of capture enclosure-hunting or some such thing.
ΘΕΑΙ. ναί.
THEAI. Yes.
ΞΕ. τὸ δὲ ἀγκίστροις καὶ τριόδουσι πληγῇ γιγνόμενον ἕτερον μὲν ἐκείνου, πληκτικὴν δέ τινα θήραν ἡμᾶς προσειπεῖν ἑνὶ λόγῳ νῦν χρεών· ἢ τί τις ἄν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, εἴποι κάλλιον;
STR. But that which is done by a blow with hooks and tridents, being different from the former, we must now call by one word some kind of strike-hunting; or what better name, Theaetetus, could anyone give it?
ΘΕΑΙ. ἀμελῶμεν τοῦ ὀνόματος· ἀρκεῖ γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο.
THEAI. Let us not worry about the name; for this is quite sufficient.
ΞΕ. τῆς τοίνυν πληκτικῆς τὸ μὲν νυκτερινὸν οἶμαι πρὸς πυρὸς φῶς γιγνόμενον ὑπʼ αὐτῶν τῶν περὶ τὴν θήραν πυρευτικὴν ῥηθῆναι συμβέβηκεν.
STR. Now, of strike-hunting, that which is done by night by the light of a fire has, I think, come to be called by those engaged in the hunt fire-hunting.
ΘΕΑΙ. πάνυ γε.
THEAI. Indeed.
ΞΕ. τὸ δέ γε μεθημερινόν, ὡς ἐχόντων ἐν ἄκροις ἄγκιστρα καὶ τῶν τριοδόντων, πᾶν ἀγκιστρευτικόν.
STR. But that which is done by day, since tridents also have hooks at their tips, is all called hook-hunting.
ΘΕΑΙ. λέγεται γὰρ οὖν.
THEAI. Yes, indeed.
ΞΕ. τοῦ τοίνυν ἀγκιστρευτικοῦ τῆς πληκτικῆς τὸ μὲν ἄνωθεν εἰς τὸ κάτω γιγνόμενον διὰ τὸ τοῖς τριόδουσιν οὕτω μάλιστα χρῆσθαι τριοδοντία τις οἶμαι κέκληται.
STR. Now, of the hook-hunting which belongs to strike-hunting, that which is done from above downward, because tridents are used chiefly in this way, has, I think, been called trident-fishing.
ΘΕΑΙ. φασὶ γοῦν τινές.
THEAI. At least some say so.
ΞΕ. τὸ δέ γε λοιπόν ἐστιν ἓν ἔτι μόνον ὡς εἰπεῖν εἶδος.
STR. And the remaining one is now, so to speak, only one more kind.
ΘΕΑΙ. τὸ ποῖον;
THEAI. What kind is that?
§221ΞΕ. τὸ τῆς ἐναντίας ταύτῃ πληγῆς, ἀγκίστρῳ τε γιγνόμενον καὶ τῶν ἰχθύων οὐχ ᾗ τις ἂν τύχῃ τοῦ σώματος, ὥσπερ τοῖς τριόδουσιν, ἀλλὰ περὶ τὴν κεφαλὴν καὶ τὸ στόμα τοῦ θηρευθέντος ἑκάστοτε, καὶ κάτωθεν εἰς τοὐναντίον ἄνω ῥάβδοις καὶ καλάμοις ἀνασπώμενον·
STR. That of the blow opposite to this, which is performed with a hook, and which takes the fish not in any chance part of the body, as is the case with tridents, but each time about the head and the mouth of the captured prey, and is drawn up from below in the opposite direction upward with rods and reeds.
οὗ τί φήσομεν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, δεῖν τοὔνομα λέγεσθαι;
What shall we say, Theaetetus, that its name must be called?
ΘΕΑΙ. δοκῶ μέν, ὅπερ ἄρτι προυθέμεθα δεῖν ἐξευρεῖν, τοῦτʼ αὐτὸ νῦν ἀποτετελέσθαι.
THEAI. It seems to me that the very thing we proposed just now that we must find out has now been fully accomplished.
ΞΕ. νῦν ἄρα τῆς ἀσπαλιευτικῆς πέρι σύ τε κἀγὼ συνωμολογήκαμεν οὐ μόνον τοὔνομα, ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸν λόγον περὶ αὐτὸ τοὖργον εἰλήφαμεν ἱκανῶς.
STR. Now, therefore, regarding angling, you and I have not only agreed upon the name, but have also sufficiently grasped the definition concerning the activity itself.
συμπάσης γὰρ τέχνης τὸ μὲν ἥμισυ μέρος κτητικὸν ἦν, κτητικοῦ δὲ χειρωτικόν, χειρωτικοῦ δὲ θηρευτικόν, τοῦ δὲ θηρευτικοῦ ζῳοθηρικόν, ζῳοθηρικοῦ δὲ ἐνυγροθηρικόν, ἐνυγροθηρικοῦ δὲ τὸ κάτωθεν τμῆμα ὅλον ἁλιευτικόν, ἁλιευτικῆς δὲ πληκτικόν, πληκτικῆς δὲ ἀγκιστρευτικόν· τούτου δὲ τὸ περὶ τὴν κάτωθεν ἄνω πληγὴν ἀνασπωμένην, ἀπʼ αὐτῆς τῆς πράξεως ἀφομοιωθὲν τοὔνομα, ἡ νῦν ἀσπαλιευτικὴ ζητηθεῖσα ἐπίκλην γέγονεν.
For of all art, one half was acquisitive, and of the acquisitive, capturing, and of the capturing, hunting, and of hunting, animal-hunting, and of animal-hunting, water-hunting, and of water-hunting, the whole lower division was fishing, and of fishing, strike-hunting, and of strike-hunting, hook-hunting; and of this, that which concerns the blow from below upward and drawing up, having its name assimilated from the action itself, has become what is now called angling, which we were searching for.
ΘΕΑΙ. παντάπασι μὲν οὖν τοῦτό γε ἱκανῶς δεδήλωται.
THEAI. This has certainly been made entirely clear.
ΞΕ. φέρε δή, κατὰ τοῦτο τὸ παράδειγμα καὶ τὸν σοφιστὴν ἐπιχειρῶμεν εὑρεῖν ὅτι ποτʼ ἔστιν.
STR. Come then, let us attempt to find out what the sophist is, according to this pattern.
ΘΕΑΙ. κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν.
THEAI. Assuredly.
ΞΕ. καὶ μὴν ἐκεῖνό γʼ ἦν τὸ ζήτημα πρῶτον, πότερον ἰδιώτην ἤ τινα τέχνην ἔχοντα θετέον εἶναι τὸν ἀσπαλιευτήν.
STR. And indeed, that was the first question: whether we should set down the angler as an amateur or as having some art.
ΘΕΑΙ. ναί.
THEAI. Yes.
ΞΕ. καὶ νῦν δὴ τοῦτον ἰδιώτην θήσομεν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἢ παντάπασιν ὡς ἀληθῶς σοφιστήν;
STR. And now indeed, Theaetetus, shall we set down this other one as an amateur, or entirely and truly as a sophist?
ΘΕΑΙ. οὐδαμῶς ἰδιώτην· μανθάνω γὰρ ὃ λέγεις, ὡς παντὸς δεῖ τοιοῦτος εἶναι τό γε ὄνομα τοῦτο ἔχων.
THEAI. By no means an amateur; for I understand what you mean: that he who has this name must be in every way a man of that sort.
ΞΕ. ἀλλά τινα τέχνην αὐτὸν ἡμῖν ἔχοντα, ὡς ἔοικε, θετέον.
STR. But we must, as it seems, set him down as possessing some art.
ΘΕΑΙ. τίνα ποτʼ οὖν δὴ ταύτην;
THEAI. What in the world might this be then?
ΞΕ. ἆρʼ ὦ πρὸς θεῶν ἠγνοήκαμεν τἀνδρὸς τὸν ἄνδρα ὄντα συγγενῆ;
STR. By the gods, have we failed to recognize that the one man is a kinsman of the other?
ΘΕΑΙ. τίνα τοῦ;
THEAI. Who is kinsman of whom?
ΞΕ. τὸν ἀσπαλιευτὴν τοῦ σοφιστοῦ.
STR. The angler of the sophist.
ΘΕΑΙ. πῇ;
THEAI. In what way?
ΞΕ. θηρευτά τινε καταφαίνεσθον ἄμφω μοι.
STR. Both appear to me to be some kind of hunters.
ΘΕΑΙ. τίνος θήρας ἅτερος;
THEAI. What kind of hunting does the other pursue?
τὸν μὲν γὰρ ἕτερον εἴπομεν.
For we have already named the one.
ΞΕ. δίχα που νυνδὴ διείλομεν τὴν ἄγραν πᾶσαν, νευστικοῦ μέρους, τὸ δὲ πεζοῦ τέμνοντες.
STR. Surely we divided all capture in two just now, cutting it into the swimming part and the land part?
ΘΕΑΙ. ναί.
THEAI. Yes.
ΞΕ. καὶ τὸ μὲν διήλθομεν, ὅσον περὶ τὰ νευστικὰ τῶν ἐνύδρων· τὸ δὲ πεζὸν εἰάσαμεν ἄσχιστον, εἰπόντες ὅτι πολυειδὲς εἴη.
STR. And we have gone through the one, as far as concerns the swimming things of the water; but we left the land part undivided, saying that it was of many kinds.