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- Seneca, Lucius Annaeus. Ad Lucilium Epistulae Morales, Vol 1-3. Gummere, Richard Mott, editor. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann, Ltd., 1917-1925.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-11-07
The interlocutors argue that wealth obtained even from evil acts remains a good, but Seneca refutes their analogy of gold and a viper in the same urn; citing Posidonius, he criticizes how wealth acts as a preceding cause that corrupts the soul and breeds false pride.
Quidam ex nostris adversus hoc sic respondent: "Putemus pecuniam bonum esse undecumque sumptam; non tamen ideo ex sacrilegio pecunia est, etiam si ex sacrilegio sumitur. Hoc sic intellege: in eadem urna et aurum est et vipera. Si aurum ex urna sustuleris, quia illic et vipera est, non ideo, inquam, mihi urna aurum dat, quia viperam habet, sed aurum dat, cum et viperam habeat.1 Eodem modo ex sacrilegio lucrum fit, non quia turpe et sceleratum est sacrilegium, sed quia et lucrum habet. Quemadmodum in illa urna vipera malum est, non aurum, quod cum vipera iacet, sic in sacrilegio malum est scelus, non lucrum."
Some of our school reply to this as follows: “Let us suppose that money is a good, from whatever source it is taken; yet money is not therefore derived from temple-robbery, even if it is taken from temple-robbery. Understand this in this way: in the same urn there is both gold and a viper. If you take the gold out of the urn because there is also a viper there, the urn, I say, does not therefore give me gold because it has a viper, but it gives gold although it also has a viper. In the same way, profit is made from temple-robbery, not because temple-robbery is shameful and criminal, but because it also has profit. Just as in that urn the viper is the evil, not the gold which lies with the viper, so in temple-robbery the crime is the evil, not the profit.”
A quibus dissentio: dissimillima enim utriusque rei condicio est. Illic aurum possum sine vipera tollere, hic lucrum sine sacrilegio facere non possum. Lucrum istud non est adpositum sceleri, sed inmixtum.
With whom I disagree; for the condition of each case is entirely different. In the former case, I can take the gold without the viper; in the latter, I cannot make profit without temple-robbery. That profit is not set alongside the crime, but mixed in with it.
"Quod dum consequi volumus, in multa mala incidimus, id bonum non est. Dum divitias autem consequi volumus, in multa mala incidimus; ergo divitiae bonum non sunt." "Duas," inquit, "significationes habet propositio vestra, unam: dum divitias consequi volumus, in multa nos mala incidere.2 In multa autem mala incidimus et dum virtutem consequi volumus. Aliquis dum navigat studii causa, naufragium fecit, aliquis captus est.
”That which, while we wish to attain it, we fall into many evils, is not a good. But while we wish to attain riches, we fall into many evils; therefore, riches are not a good.” “Your proposition,” he says, “has two meanings: one, that while we wish to attain riches, we fall into many evils. But we fall into many evils even while we wish to attain virtue. Someone, while sailing for the sake of study, made shipwreck; someone was captured.
Altera significatio talis est: per quod in mala incidimus, bonum non est. Huic propositioni non erit consequens per divitias nos aut per voluptates in mala incidere; aut si per divitias in multa mala incidimus, non tantum bonum non sunt divitiae, sed malum sunt; vos autem illas dicitis tantum bonum non esse. Praeterea," inquit, "conceditis divitias habere aliquid usus. Inter commoda illas numeratis; atqui eadem ratione ne commodum quidem erunt. Per illas enim multa nobis incommoda eveniunt."
The other meaning is as follows: that through which we fall into evils is not a good. It will not follow from this proposition that we fall into evils through riches or through pleasures; or if we fall into many evils through riches, riches are not only not a good, but they are an evil; yet you say that they are only not a good. Furthermore,” he says, “you concede that riches have some use. You number them among advantages; and yet, by the same reasoning, they will not even be an advantage. For through them many disadvantages happen to us.”
His quidam hoc respondent: "Erratis, qui incommoda divitiis inputatis. Illae neminem laedunt; aut sua nocet cuique stultitia aut aliena nequitia, sic quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit; occidentis telum est. Non ideo divitiae tibi nocent, si propter divitias tibi nocetur."
To these some reply as follows: “You err who impute disadvantages to riches. They harm no one; either his own folly or another’s wickedness harms each person, just as a sword kills no one; it is the weapon of the one who kills. Riches do not therefore harm you, even if you are harmed because of riches.”
Posidonius, ut ego existimo, melius,3 qui ait divitias esse causam malorum, non quia ipsae faciunt aliquid, sed quia facturos inritant. Alia est enim causa efficiens, quae protinus necesse est noceat, alia praecedens. Hanc praecedentem causam divitiae habent; inflant animos, superbiam pariunt, invidiam contrahunt et usque eo mentem alienant, ut fama pecuniae nos etiam nocitura delectet.
Posidonius, as I think, speaks better, who says that riches are the cause of evils, not because they themselves do anything, but because they provoke those who will do it. For the efficient cause, which must immediately harm, is one thing, the preceding cause is another. Riches have this preceding cause; they puff up minds, produce pride, bring on envy, and alienate the mind to such an extent that the reputation of money delights us even though it is about to harm us.
Bona autem omnia carere culpa decet; pura sunt, non corrumpunt animos, non sollicitant. Extollunt quidem et dilatant, sed sine tumore. Quae bona sunt fiduciam faciunt, divitiae audaciam. Quae bona sunt magnitudinem animi dant, divitiae insolentiam. Nihil autem alii est insolentia quam species magnitudinis falsa.4
But it is fitting for all goods to be free from blame; they are pure, they do not corrupt minds, they do not disturb them. They do indeed elevate and expand them, but without swelling. Those which are goods produce confidence, riches produce audacity. Those which are goods give greatness of mind, riches insolence. But insolence is nothing else than a false appearance of greatness.
" Isto modo," inquit, "etiam malum sunt divitiae non tantum bonum non sunt." Essent malum, ipsae nocerent, si, ut dixi, haberent efficientem causam; nunc praecedentem habent et quidem non inritantem tantum animos, sed adtrahentem. Specie enim boni offundunt veri similem ac plerisque credibilem.
”In that way,” he says, “riches are also an evil, not only not a good.” They would be an evil and would themselves harm, if, as I said, they had an efficient cause; now they have a preceding cause, and indeed one that not only provokes minds but attracts them. For they spread a plausible appearance of good, credible to most people.
- 87.26cum et viperam habeat
A cum clause with the subjunctive expressing concession ('although' or 'in a situation where'). It describes the situation where the urn gives gold independently, even though a viper is present inside it at the same time.
- 87.28unam: dum divitias consequi volumus, in multa nos mala incidere
An accusative with infinitive (AcI) phrase functioning as an appositive that concretely explains the preceding feminine accusative singular 'unam' (the one meaning). It operates as indirect speech subordinate to 'habet' in the main clause.
- 87.31Posidonius, ut ego existimo, melius
An elliptical construction typical of concise Latin style, where the verb (such as 'dicit' or 'sentit') is omitted. Literally, 'Posidonius, as I think, [says/thinks] better'.
- 87.32Nihil autem alii est insolentia quam species magnitudinis falsa
Here 'alii' functions as a variant (or textual variant) of the neuter nominative/accusative singular 'aliud', forming the construction 'nihil aliud quam' ('nothing other than' or 'nothing but').
Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-25) · Revision history (2, latest 2026-09-22)
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