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The Third through Eighth Skeptic Tropes for Suspension

Continuing the exposition of the ten skeptic modes, this passage covers the remainder of the second mode through the eighth mode, demonstrating the relativity of perception, custom, and physical state to justify the suspension of judgment.

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Ἄνδρων δʼ ὁ Ἀργεῖος, ὥς φησιν Ἀριστοτέλης, διὰ τῆς ἀνύδρου Λιβύης ὥδευεν ἄποτος. καὶ ὁ μὲν ἰατρικῆς, ὁ δὲ γεωργίας, ἄλλος δʼ ἐμπορίας ὀρέγεται· καὶ ταὐτὰ οὓς μὲν βλάπτει, οὓς δὲ ὠφελεῖ· ὅθεν ἐφεκτέον. Τρίτος ὁ παρὰ τὰς τῶν αἰσθητικῶν πόρων διαφοράς. τὸ γοῦν μῆλον ὁράσει μὲν ὠχρόν, γεύσει δὲ γλυκύ, ὀσφρήσει δʼ εὑῶδες ὑποπίπτει. καὶ ἡ αὐτὴ δὲ μορφὴ παρὰ τὰς διαφορὰς τῶν κατόπτρων ἀλλοία θεωρεῖται. ἀκολουθεῖ οὖν μὴ μᾶλλον εἶναι τοῖον τὸ φαινόμενον ἢ ἀλλοῖον.

​And Andron of Argos, as Aristotle says, traversed waterless Libya without drinking. Moreover, one desires medicine, another agriculture, and another commerce; and the same things harm some but benefit others; whence one must suspend judgment. The third mode is that based on the differences among the sensory passages. An apple, for instance, presents itself as pale to the sight, sweet to the taste, and fragrant to the smell. And the very same form is viewed as of a different sort depending on the differences among mirrors. It follows, therefore, that what appears is no more of such a kind than of a different kind.

Τέταρτος ὁ παρὰ τὰς διαθέσεις καὶ κοινῶς παραλλαγάς, οἷον ὑγίειαν, νόσον, ὕπνον, ἐγρήγορσιν, χαράν, λύπην, νεότητα, γῆρας, θάρσος, φόβον, ἔνδειαν, πλήρωσιν, μῖσος, φιλίαν, θερμασίαν, ψύξιν· παρὰ τὸ πνεῖν, παρὰ τὸ πιεσθῆναι τοὺς πόρους. ἀλλοῖα οὖν φαίνεται τὰ προσπίπτοντα παρὰ τὰς ποιὰς διαθέσεις. οὐδὲ γὰρ οἱ μαινόμενοι παρὰ φύσιν ἔχουσι· τί γὰρ μᾶλλον ἐκεῖνοι ἢ ἡμεῖς;1 καὶ γὰρ ἡμεῖς τὸν ἥλιον ὡς ἑστῶτα βλέπομεν. Θέων δʼ ὁ Τιθοραιεὺς ὁ στωικὸς κοιμώμενος περιεπάτει ἐν τῷ ὕπνῳ καὶ Περικλέους δοῦλος ἐπʼ ἄκρου τοῦ τέγους.

​The fourth mode is that based on conditions and general alterations, such as health, disease, sleep, waking, joy, grief, youth, old age, boldness, fear, want, fullness, hatred, friendship, warmth, cold; depending on breathing, or depending on the compression of the passages. The impressions that present themselves, therefore, appear of a different sort according to the particular conditions. For not even the mad are in an unnatural condition; for why should they be so any more than we? For we too see the sun as standing still. And Theon of Tithorea the Stoic used to walk about asleep during his slumber, as did the slave of Pericles on the edge of the roof.

Πέμπτος ὁ παρὰ τὰς ἀγωγὰς καὶ τοὺς νόμους καὶ τὰς μυθικὰς πίστεις καὶ τὰς ἐθνικὰς συνθήκας καὶ δογματικὰς ὑπολήψεις. ἐν τούτῳ περιέχεται τὰ περὶ καλῶν καὶ αἰσχρῶν, περὶ ἀληθῶν καὶ ψευδῶν, περὶ ἀγαθῶν καὶ κακῶν, περὶ θεῶν καὶ γενέσεως καὶ φθορᾶς τῶν φαινομένων πάντων. τὸ γοῦν αὐτὸ παρʼ οἷς μὲν δίκαιον, παρʼ οἷς δὲ ἄδικον· καὶ ἄλλοις μὲν ἀγαθόν, ἄλλοις δὲ κακόν. Πέρσαι μὲν γὰρ οὐκ ἄτοπον ἡγοῦνται θυγατρὶ μίγνυσθαι, Ἕλληνες δʼ ἔκθεσμον. καὶ Μασσαγέται μέν, ὥς φησι καὶ Εὔδοξος ἐν τῇ πρώτῃ τῆς Περιόδου, κοινὰς ἔχουσι τὰς γυναῖκας, Ἕλληνες δʼ οὔ· Κίλικές τε λῃστείαις ἔχαιρον, ἀλλʼ οὐχ Ἕλληνες.

​The fifth mode is that based on customs, laws, mythical beliefs, ethnic compacts, and dogmatic suppositions. In this are contained the matters concerning the fine and the base, the true and the false, the good and the bad, the gods, and the generation and destruction of all appearing things. The same thing, at any rate, is just among some, but unjust among others; and good to some, but bad to others. For the Persians do not consider it strange to have intercourse with a daughter, but the Greeks deem it unlawful. And the Massagetae, as Eudoxus also says in the first book of the Circuit of the Earth, have their women in common, but the Greeks do not; and the Cilicians used to take pleasure in piracy, but not the Greeks.

θεούς τʼ ἄλλοι ἄλλους ἡγοῦνται· καὶ οἱ μὲν προνοεῖσθαι, οἱ δʼ οὔ. θάπτουσι δʼ Αἰγύπτιοι μὲν ταριχεύοντες, Ῥωμαῖοι δὲ καίοντες, Παίονες δʼ εἰς λίμνας ῥιπτοῦντες· ὅθεν περὶ τἀληθοῦς ἡ ἐποχή. Ἕκτος ὁ παρὰ τὰς μίξεις καὶ κοινωνίας, καθʼ ὃν εἰλικρινῶς οὐδὲν καθʼ αὑτὸ φαίνεται, ἀλλὰ σὺν ἀέρι, σὺν φωτί, σὺν ὑγρῷ, σὺν στερεῷ, θερμότητι, ψυχρότητι, κινήσει, ἀναθυμιάσεσιν, ἄλλαις δυνάμεσιν. ἡ γοῦν πορφύρα διάφορον ὑποφαίνει χρῶμα ἐν ἡλίῳ καὶ σελήνῃ καὶ λύχνῳ. καὶ τὸ ἡμέτερον χρῶμα ἀλλοῖον ὑπὸ τὴν μεσημβρίαν φαίνεται καὶ ὑπὸ δύσιν· καὶ ὁ ἐν ἀέρι ὑπὸ δυοῖν κουφιζόμενος

​People also consider different beings to be gods; and some hold that they exercise providence, while others do not. As for burial, the Egyptians bury by embalming, the Romans by burning, and the Paeonians by casting into lakes; whence suspension of judgment concerning the truth arises. The sixth mode is that based on mixtures and associations, according to which nothing appears purely by itself, but together with air, light, moisture, solidity, heat, coldness, motion, vapors, and other forces. Purple dye, for instance, displays a different color in sunlight, moonlight, and lamp-light. And our own complexion appears of a different sort at midday and at sunset; and a stone that in air is lifted by two men

λίθος ἐν ὕδατι ῥᾳδίως μετατίθεται, ἤτοι βαρὺς ὢν καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕδατος κουφιζόμενος ἢ ἐλαφρὸς [ὢν] καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀέρος βαρυνόμενος2. ἀγνοοῦμεν οὖν τὸ κατʼ ἰδίαν, ὡς ἔλαιον ἐν μύρῳ. Ἕβδομος ὁ παρὰ τὰς ἀποστάσεις καὶ ποιὰς θέσεις καὶ τοὺς τόπους καὶ τὰ ἐν τοῖς τόποις. κατὰ τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον τὰ δοκοῦντʼ εἶναι μεγάλα μικρὰ φαίνεται, τὰ τετράγωνα στρογγύλα, τὰ ὁμαλὰ ἐξοχὰς ἔχοντα, τὰ ὀρθὰ κεκλασμένα, τὰ ὠχρὰ ἑτερόχροα. ὁ γοῦν ἥλιος παρὰ τὸ διάστημα μικρὸς φαίνεται· καὶ τὰ ὄρη πόρρωθεν ἀεροειδῆ καὶ λεῖα, ἐγγύθεν δὲ τραχέα.

​is easily moved in water, either because it is heavy and made light by the water, or because it is light and made heavy by the air. We are ignorant, then, of its intrinsic nature, just as of the oil in an ointment. The seventh mode is that based on distances, particular positions, places, and the things within those places. According to this mode, things thought to be large appear small, square things appear round, smooth things appear to have projections, straight things appear bent, and pale things appear of another color. The sun, for instance, appears small because of the distance; and mountains from afar appear air-like and smooth, but from near at hand rugged.

ἔτι ὁ ἥλιος ἀνίσχων μὲν ἀλλοῖος, μεσουρανῶν δʼ οὐχ ὅμοιος. καὶ τὸ αὐτὸ σῶμα ἐν μὲν ἄλσει ἀλλοῖον, ἐν δὲ ψιλῇ γῇ ἕτερον· καὶ ἡ εἰκὼν παρὰ τὴν ποιὰν θέσιν, ὅ τε τῆς περιστερᾶς τράχηλος παρὰ τὴν στροφήν. ἐπεὶ οὖν οὐκ ἔνι ἔξω τόπων καὶ θέσεων ταῦτα κατανοῆσαι3, ἀγνοεῖται ἡ φύσις αὐτῶν. Ὄγδοος ὁ παρὰ τὰς ποσότητας καὶ ποιότητας αὐτῶν ἢ θερμότητας ἢ ψυχρότητας ἢ ταχύτητας ἢ βραδύτητας ἢ ὠχρότητας ἢ ἑτεροχροιότητας. ὁ γοῦν οἶνος μέτριος μὲν ληφθεὶς ῥώννυσι, πλείων δὲ παρίησιν· ὁμοίως καὶ ἡ τροφὴ καὶ τὰ ὅμοια.

​Furthermore, the sun appears of a different sort when rising, and not similar when at mid-heaven. And the same body appears of one sort in a grove, but different on bare ground; and a portrait varies according to its particular position, as does the neck of a dove according to its turning. Since, therefore, it is not possible to comprehend these things apart from places and positions, their nature is unknown. The eighth mode is that based on their quantities and qualities, or degrees of heat, coldness, swiftness, slowness, paleness, or diversity of color. Wine, for instance, taken in moderation strengthens, but in larger quantity weakens; and similarly with food and like things.

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 82οὐδὲ γὰρ οἱ μαινόμενοι παρὰ φύσιν ἔχουσι· τί γὰρ μᾶλλον ἐκεῖνοι ἢ ἡμεῖς;

    The idiom παρὰ φύσιν ἔχειν means "to be in an unnatural condition." In the subsequent rhetorical question τί γὰρ μᾶλλον ἐκεῖνοι ἢ ἡμεῖς?, the predicate παρὰ φύσιν ἔχουσιν is elided ("For why should they [be in an unnatural state] any more than we?"). This elliptical construction directly applies the characteristic skeptic formula οὐδὲν μᾶλλον.

  2. 85ἤτοι βαρὺς ὢν καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕδατος κουφιζόμενος ἢ ἐλαφρὸς [ὢν] καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀέρος βαρυνόμενος

    The correlative construction ἤτοι ... ἤ contrasts two mutually exclusive hypotheses regarding the stone's intrinsic nature versus the effect of the medium. The participles ὢν (and the elided/bracketed ὢν in the second limb) together with the coordinated participles κουφιζόμενος and βαρυνόμενος function causally, presenting an equipollent dilemma: whether the stone is heavy by nature and lightened by water, or light by nature and weighed down by air.

  3. 86οὐκ ἔνι ἔξω τόπων καὶ θέσεων ταῦτα κατανοῆσαι

    ἔνι is an apocope for the impersonal ἔνεστι, construed with the infinitive κατανοῆσαι to mean "it is not possible to comprehend." The prepositional phrase ἔξω τόπων καὶ θέσεων acts as an adverbial modifier to κατανοῆσαι, meaning "apart from / outside of places and positions."

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