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- Diogenes Laertius. Hicks, R. D., editor. Cambridge, MA.: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1925.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-09-29
The authenticity of writings attributed to Pythagoras is discussed alongside his ethical and practical doctrines, the metaphor of life as a festival, the four seasons of human life, the disciples' five-year silence, and miraculous legends surrounding him.
τὸ δὲ φερόμενον ὡς Πυθαγόρου1 Λύσιδός ἐστι τοῦ Ταραντίνου Πυθαγορικοῦ, φυγόντος εἰς Θήβας καὶ Ἐπαμεινώνδα καθηγησαμένου. φησὶ δʼ Ἡρακλείδης ὁ τοῦ Σαραπίωνος ἐν τῇ Σωτίωνος ἐπιτομῇ γεγραφέναι αὐτὸν καὶ Περὶ τοῦ ὅλου ἐν ἔπεσιν, δεύτερον τὸν Ἱερὸν λόγον, οὗ ἡ ἀρχή· "ὦ νέοι, ἀλλὰ σέβεσθε μεθʼ ἡσυχίης τάδε πάντα·" τρίτον Περὶ ψυχῆς, τέταρτον Περὶ εὐσεβείας, πέμπτον Ἡλοθαλῆ τὸν Ἐπιχάρμου τοῦ Κῴου πατέρα, ἕκτον Κρότωνα καὶ ἄλλους. τὸν δὲ Μυστικὸν λόγον Ἱππάσου φησὶν εἶναι, γεγραμμένον ἐπὶ διαβολῇ Πυθαγόρου, πολλοὺς δὲ καὶ ὑπὸ Ἄστωνος τοῦ Κροτωνιάτου γραφέντας ἀνατεθῆναι Πυθαγόρᾳ.
However, the work in circulation under Pythagoras' name belongs to Lysis of Tarentum, a Pythagorean who fled to Thebes and became the teacher of Epaminondas. Heraclides, the son of Sarapion, says in his Epitome of Sotion that Pythagoras wrote also On the Universe in verse, and secondly the Sacred Discourse, of which the beginning is: "O youths, revere with silence all these things;" thirdly, On the Soul; fourthly, On Piety; fifthly, Helothales, Father of Epicharmus of Cos; sixthly, Croton, and others. But he says that the Mystical Discourse belongs to Hippasus, written to slander Pythagoras, and that many works written by Aston of Croton were also attributed to Pythagoras.
φησὶ δὲ καὶ Ἀριστόξενος τὰ πλεῖστα τῶν ἠθικῶν δογμάτων λαβεῖν τὸν Πυθαγόραν παρὰ Θεμιστοκλείας τῆς ἐν Δελφοῖς. Ἴων δὲ ὁ Χῖος ἐν τοῖς Τριαγμοῖς φησιν αὐτὸν ἔνια ποιήσαντα ἀνενεγκεῖν εἰς Ὀρφέα. αὐτοῦ λέγουσι καὶ τοὺς Σκοπιάδας, οὗ ἡ ἀρχή, Μὴ * * ἀνααίδευ μηδενί. Σωσικράτης δʼ ἐν Διαδοχαῖς φησιν αὐτὸν ἐρωτηθέντα ὑπὸ Λέοντος τοῦ Φλιασίων τυράννου τίς εἴη, φιλόσοφος, εἰπεῖν. καὶ τὸν βίον ἐοικέναι πανηγύρει· ὡς οὖν εἰς ταύτην οἱ μὲν ἀγωνιούμενοι, οἱ δὲ κατʼ ἐμπορίαν, οἱ δέ γε βέλτιστοι ἔρχονται θεαταί, οὕτως ἐν τῷ βίῳ2 οἱ μὲν ἀνδραποδώδεις, ἔφη, φύονται δόξης καὶ πλεονεξίας θηραταί, οἱ δὲ φιλόσοφοι τῆς ἀληθείας. καὶ τάδε μὲν ὧδε.
Aristoxenus also says that Pythagoras derived most of his ethical doctrines from Themistoclea at Delphi. And Ion of Chios in his Triagmoi says that he, having composed some verses, attributed them to Orpheus. The Scopiadae is also said to be his, of which the beginning is: "Show no lack of reverence to anyone." Sosicrates, in his Successions, says that when he was asked by Leon, the tyrant of Phlius, who he was, he replied, "A philosopher"; and that life resembles a festive assembly. For just as some come to this to compete, others for trade, and the best as spectators, so in life, he said, the slavish are born hunters of fame and gain, but philosophers are seekers of truth. And so much for these matters.
Ἐν δὲ τοῖς τρισὶ συγγράμμασι τοῖς προειρημένοις φέρεται Πυθαγόρου τάδε καθολικῶς. οὐκ ἐᾷ εὔχεσθαι ὑπὲρ ἑαυτῶν διὰ τὸ μὴ εἰδέναι τὸ συμφέρον. τὴν μέθην ἓν ἀνθʼ ἑνὸς βλάβην3 καλεῖ καὶ πλησμονὴν πᾶσαν ἀποδοκιμάζει, λέγων μὴ παραβαίνειν μήτε τῶν ποτῶν μήτε τῶν σιτίων μηδένα τὴν συμμετρίαν. καὶ περὶ ἀφροδισίων δέ φησιν οὕτως· Ἀφροδίσια χειμῶνος ποιέεσθαι, μὴ θέρεος· φθινοπώρου δὲ καὶ ἦρος κουφότερα, βαρέα δὲ πᾶσαν ὥρην καὶ ἐς ὑγιείην οὐκ ἀγαθά. ἀλλὰ καί ποτʼ ἐρωτηθέντα πότε δεῖ πλησιάζειν εἰπεῖν· ὅταν βούλῃ γενέσθαι σωυτοῦ ἀσθενέστερος.
In the three treatises mentioned above, the following doctrines of Pythagoras are handed down in general. He does not allow people to pray for themselves, because they do not know what is beneficial. He calls drunkenness a damage once and for all, and disapproves of all surfeit, saying that no one should exceed moderation either in drinks or in food. And concerning sexual indulgence he speaks thus: "Let sexual indulgence take place in winter, not in summer; in autumn and spring it is less harmful, but in every season it is burdensome and not good for health." Moreover, when he was once asked when one ought to engage in sexual intercourse, he said: "Whenever you wish to become weaker than yourself."
Διαιρεῖται δὲ καὶ τὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου βίον οὕτως· Παῖς εἴκοσι ἔτεα, νεηνίσκος εἴκοσι, νεηνίης εἴκοσι, γέρων εἴκοσι. αἱ δὲ ἡλικίαι πρὸς τὰς ὥρας ὧδε σύμμετροι· παῖς ἔαρ, νεηνίσκος θέρος, νεηνίης φθινόπωρον, γέρων χειμών. ἔστι δʼ αὐτῷ ὁ μὲν νεηνίσκος μειράκιον, ὁ δὲ νεηνίης ἀνήρ. εἶπέ τε πρῶτος, ὥς φησι Τίμαιος, κοινὰ τὰ φίλων εἶναι καὶ φιλίαν ἰσότητα. καὶ αὐτοῦ οἱ μαθηταὶ κατετίθεντο τὰς οὐσίας εἰς ἕν [ποιούμενοι]. πενταετίαν θʼ ἡσύχαζον, μόνον τῶν λόγων κατακούοντες καὶ οὐδέπω Πυθαγόραν ὁρῶντες εἰς ὃ δοκιμασθεῖεν4· τοὐντεῦθεν δʼ ἐγίνοντο τῆς οἰκίας αὐτοῦ καὶ τῆς ὄψεως μετεῖχον. ἀπείχοντο δὲ καὶ σοροῦ κυπαρισσίνης διὰ τὸ τὸ τοῦ Διὸς σκῆπτρον ἐντεῦθεν πεποιῆσθαι, ὥς φησιν Ἕρμιππος ἐν δευτέρῳ Περὶ Πυθαγόρου.
He also divides the life of man thus: "A boy twenty years, a youth twenty, a mature man twenty, an old man twenty. And the ages correspond to the seasons thus: boy is spring, youth is summer, mature man is autumn, old man is winter." With him the "youth" is a lad, and the "mature man" is an adult man. And he was the first to say, as Timaeus says, that friends have all things in common, and that friendship is equality. And his disciples would deposit their property together into a single fund. They kept silence for five years, merely listening to the lectures and not yet seeing Pythagoras until they were approved; thenceforth they became members of his household and shared in the sight of him. They also refrained from cypress coffins because the sceptre of Zeus is made from cypress wood, as Hermippus says in the second book of his work On Pythagoras.
Καὶ γὰρ καὶ σεμνοπρεπέστατος λέγεται γενέσθαι καὶ οἱ μαθηταὶ δόξαν εἶχον περὶ αὐτοῦ ὡς εἴη Ἀπόλλων ἐξ Ὑπερβορέων ἀφιγμένος. λόγος δέ ποτʼ αὐτοῦ παραγυμνωθέντος τὸν μηρὸν ὀφθῆναι χρυσοῦν· καὶ ὅτι Νέσσος ὁ ποταμὸς διαβαίνοντα αὐτὸν προσαγορεύσαι πολὺς ἦν ὁ φάσκων5. Τίμαιός τέ φησιν ἐν δεκάτῃ Ἱστοριῶν λέγειν αὐτὸν τὰς συνοικούσας ἀνδράσι θεῶν ἔχειν ὀνόματα, Κόρας, Νύμφας, εἶτα Μητέρας καλουμένας. τοῦτον καὶ γεωμετρίαν ἐπὶ πέρας ἀγαγεῖν, Μοίριδος πρώτου εὑρόντος τὰς ἀρχὰς τῶν στοιχείων αὐτῆς, ὥς φησιν Ἀντικλείδης ἐν δευτέρῳ Περὶ Ἀλεξάνδρου.
For indeed, he is said to have been most dignified, and his disciples held the belief concerning him that he was Apollo arrived from the Hyperboreans. There is a story that, once when he bared his thigh, it was seen to be of gold; and there were many who asserted that the river Nessus addressed him as he was crossing it. Timaeus says in the tenth book of his Histories that he said that women who live with men have the names of deities, being called Maidens, Nymphs, and then Mothers. It was he too who brought geometry to completion, after Moeris first discovered the beginnings of its elements, as Anticleides says in the second book of his work On Alexander.
- 8.1.7τὸ δὲ φερόμενον ὡς Πυθαγόρου
The neuter singular participle τὸ φερόμενον ("what is in circulation") functions as the subject, modified by the genitive phrase ὡς Πυθαγόρου ("as [the work] of Pythagoras"). The main predicate is the possessive genitive predicate Λύσιδός ἐστι ("belongs to Lysis").
- 8.1.8ὡς οὖν εἰς ταύτην οἱ μὲν ἀγωνιούμενοι... οὕτως ἐν τῷ βίῳ
A correlative comparative construction introduced by ὡς... οὕτως ("just as... so"). Within the ὡς-clause, three classes of participants are balanced as subjects of ἔρχονται (οἱ μὲν ἀγωνιούμενοι, οἱ δὲ κατʼ ἐμπορίαν, οἱ δέ γε βέλτιστοι... θεαταί), matched in the main clause by the contrast between οἱ μὲν ἀνδραποδώδεις ("the slavish") and οἱ δὲ φιλόσοφοι ("the philosophers").
- 8.1.9ἓν ἀνθʼ ἑνὸς βλάβην
The idiomatic phrase ἓν ἀνθʼ ἑνός ("one for one", i.e., once and for all, or an unmitigated evil) acts adverbially modifying the predicate accusative noun βλάβην ("a damage/harm"), forming an object-complement structure with τὴν μέθην as the direct object.
- 8.1.10εἰς ὃ δοκιμασθεῖεν
The prepositional phrase εἰς ὅ functions as a temporal conjunction meaning "until". It takes the past optative (δοκιμασθεῖεν) rather than the subjunctive because it expresses indefinite iteration or prospective action in secondary sequence within indirect discourse.
- 8.1.11πολὺς ἦν ὁ φάσκων
An idiomatic Greek construction combining the predicate adjective πολὺς with the copula ἦν and the articular participle ὁ φάσκων, meaning "there were many asserting" or "many people maintained that...".
