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§6.2.66-6.2.70

Anecdotes of Diogenes and the Twofold Training

Various anecdotes and sharp retorts of Diogenes are presented concerning begging, death, frank speech, and his shameless public behavior, followed by his doctrine on the twofold training of mind and body.

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Ὀνειδιζόμενος ὅτι ἐν καπηλείῳ πίνει, καὶ γὰρ ἐν κουρείῳ, φησί, κείρομαι. ὀνειδιζόμενος ὅτι παρʼ Ἀντιπάτρου τριβώνιον ἔλαβεν, ἔφη, "οὔτοι ἀπόβλητʼ ἐστὶ θεῶν ἐρικυδέα δῶρα." Πρὸς τὸν ἐνσείσαντα αὐτῷ δοκόν, εἶτα εἰπόντα, φύλαξαι, πλήξας αὐτὸν τῇ βακτηρίᾳ εἶπε, φύλαξαι. πρὸς τὸν λιπαροῦντα τὴν ἑταίραν, τί θέλεις, ἔφη, τυχεῖν, ὦ ταλαίπωρε, οὗ τὸ ἀποτυχεῖν ἄμεινόν ἐστι1; πρὸς τὸν μυριζόμενον, βλέπε, εἶπε, μὴ ἡ τῆς κεφαλῆς σου εὐωδία δυσωδίαν σου τῷ βίῳ παράσχῃ. τοὺς μὲν οἰκέτας ἔφη τοῖς δεσπόταις, τοὺς δὲ φαύλους ταῖς ἐπιθυμίαις δουλεύειν.

​When reproached for drinking in a tavern, he said, "For I also get my hair cut in a barber's shop." When reproached for accepting a cloak from Antipater, he said: "By no means are the glorious gifts of the gods to be cast away." To a man who struck him with a beam and then said, "Look out!" he struck him with his staff and said, "Look out!" To a man who was importuning a courtesan, he said, "Why, wretched man, do you desire to obtain that which it is better to miss?" To a man who scented himself with perfume, he said, "Watch out lest the fragrance of your head bring a foul odor upon your life." He used to say that household slaves serve their masters, but base men serve their desires.

Ἐρωτηθεὶς διὰ τί ἀνδράποδα ἐκλήθη, ὅτι, φησί, τοὺς πόδας ἀνδρῶν εἶχον, τὴν δὲ ψυχὴν ὁποίαν σὺ νῦν ὁ ἐξετάζων. ἄσωτον ᾔτει μνᾶν· πυθομένου δὲ διὰ τί τοὺς μὲν ἄλλους ὀβολὸν αἰτεῖ, αὐτὸν δὲ μνᾶν, ὅτι, εἶπε, παρὰ μὲν τῶν ἄλλων πάλιν ἐλπίζω λαβεῖν, παρὰ δὲ σοῦ θεῶν ἐν γούνασι κεῖται εἰ πάλιν λήψομαι. ὀνειδιζόμενος ὅτι αὐτὸς αἰτεῖ, Πλάτωνος μὴ αἰτοῦντος, κἀκεῖνος, εἶπεν, αἰτεῖ, ἀλλʼ "ἄγχι σχὼν κεφαλήν, ἵνα μὴ πευθοίαθʼ οἱ ἄλλοι." ἰδὼν τοξότην ἀφυῆ παρὰ τὸν σκοπὸν ἐκάθισεν, εἰπών, ἵνα μὴ πληγῶ τοὺς ἐρῶντας ἔφη πρὸς ἡδονὴν ἀτυχεῖν2.

​Being asked why slaves were called 'man-footed' (andrapoda), he said, "Because they have the feet of men, but a soul such as you have who are questioning me right now." He asked a spendthrift for a mina; and when the man inquired why he asked others for an obol but him for a mina, he said, "Because from the others I expect to receive again, but from you it lies upon the knees of the gods whether I shall ever receive again." When reproached for begging himself while Plato did not beg, he said, "He too begs, but holding his head close, so that the others might not hear." Seeing an unskilful archer, he sat down beside the target, saying, "So that I may not be hit." He used to say that lovers are unfortunate in the matter of pleasure.

Ἐρωτηθεὶς εἰ κακὸν ὁ θάνατος, πῶς, εἶπε, κακός, οὗ παρόντος οὐκ αἰσθανόμεθα; πρὸς Ἀλέξανδρον ἐπιστάντα καὶ εἰπόντα, οὐ φοβῇ με; τί γάρ, εἶπεν, εἶ; ἀγαθὸν ἢ κακόν; τοῦ δὲ εἰπόντος, ἀγαθόν, τίς οὖν, εἶπε, τὸ ἀγαθὸν φοβεῖται; τὴν παιδείαν εἶπε τοῖς μὲν νέοις σωφροσύνην, τοῖς δὲ πρεσβυτέροις παραμυθίαν, τοῖς δὲ πένησι πλοῦτον, τοῖς δὲ πλουσίοις κόσμον εἶναι. πρὸς Διδύμωνα τὸν μοιχὸν ἰατρεύοντά ποτε κόρης ὀφθαλμόν, ὅρα, φησί, μὴ τὸν ὀφθαλμὸν τῆς παρθένου θεραπεύων τὴν κόρην φθείρῃς3. εἰπόντος τινὸς ὅτι ὑπὸ τῶν φίλων ἐπιβουλεύεται, καὶ τί δεῖ πράττειν, ἔφη, εἰ δεήσει τοῖς φίλοις καὶ τοῖς ἐχθροῖς ὁμοίως χρῆσθαι;

​Being asked whether death was an evil, he said, "How is it an evil, when, as long as it is present, we do not feel it?" To Alexander, who stood over him and said, "Are you not afraid of me?" he said, "Why, what are you? A good thing or an evil thing?" And when Alexander replied, "A good thing," he said, "Who then fears what is good?" He said that education is temperance to the young, consolation to the old, wealth to the poor, and an ornament to the rich. Once, to Didymon the adulterer who was treating a girl's (kore's) eye, he said, "See to it that while treating the maiden's eye you do not ruin her pupil (kore)." When someone said that he was being plotted against by his friends, he said, "And what ought one to do, if it will be necessary to treat friends and enemies alike?"

Ἐρωτηθεὶς τί κάλλιστον ἐν ἀνθρώποις, ἔφη, παρρησία. εἰσελθὼν εἰς διδασκάλου καὶ Μούσας μὲν ἰδὼν πολλάς, μαθητὰς δὲ ὀλίγους, σὺν θεοῖς, ἔφη, διδάσκαλε, πολλοὺς μαθητὰς ἔχεις. εἰώθει δὲ πάντα ποιεῖν ἐν τῷ μέσῳ, καὶ τὰ Δήμητρος καὶ τὰ Ἀφροδίτης. καὶ τοιούτους τινὰς ἠρώτα λόγους· εἰ τὸ ἀριστᾶν μηδέν ἐστιν ἄτοπον, οὐδʼ ἐν ἀγορᾷ ἐστιν ἄτοπον· οὐκ ἔστι δʼ ἄτοπον τὸ ἀριστᾶν· οὐδʼ ἐν ἀγορᾷ ἄρα ἐστὶν ἄτοπον. χειρουργῶν τʼ ἐν τῷ μέσῳ συνεχές, εἴθε ἦν, ἔλεγε, καὶ τὴν κοιλίαν παρατριψάμενον τοῦ λιμοῦ παύσασθαι· ἀναφέρεται δὲ καὶ ἄλλα εἰς αὐτόν, ἃ μακρὸν ἂν εἴη καταλέγειν πολλὰ ὄντα.

​Being asked what is the most beautiful thing among human beings, he said, "Freedom of speech." Having entered a schoolmaster's house and seeing many statues of the Muses but few pupils, he said, "With the gods' help, master, you have many pupils." He was accustomed to do everything in public, both the deeds of Demeter and those of Aphrodite. And he used to put forward arguments of this sort: "If eating lunch is nothing out of the way, neither is it out of the way in the market-place; but eating lunch is not out of the way; therefore it is not out of the way in the market-place either." And as he continuously masturbated in public, he used to say, "Would that it were possible to relieve hunger too by rubbing one's stomach!" Other anecdotes are also attributed to him, which, being numerous, it would take long to enumerate.

Διττὴν δʼ ἔλεγεν εἶναι τὴν ἄσκησιν, τὴν μὲν ψυχικήν, τὴν δὲ σωματικήν· ταύτην καθʼ ἣν ἐν γυμνασίᾳ συνεχεῖ γινόμεναι φαντασίαι4 εὐλυσίαν πρὸς τὰ τῆς ἀρετῆς ἔργα παρέχονται. εἶναι δʼ ἀτελῆ τὴν ἑτέραν χωρὶς τῆς ἑτέρας, οὐδὲν ἧττον εὐεξίας καὶ ἰσχύος ἐν τοῖς προσήκουσι γενομένης, ὡς περὶ τὴν ψυχὴν καὶ περὶ τὸ σῶμα. παρετίθετο δὲ τεκμήρια τοῦ ῥᾳδίως ἀπὸ τῆς γυμνασίας ἐν τῇ ἀρετῇ καταγίνεσθαι· ὁρᾶν τε γὰρ ἔν τε ταῖς τέχναις ταῖς βαναύσοις καὶ ταῖς ἄλλαις οὐ τὴν τυχοῦσαν ὀξυχειρίαν τοὺς τεχνίτας ἀπὸ τῆς μελέτης περιπεποιημένους τούς τʼ αὐλητὰς καὶ τοὺς ἀθλητὰς ὅσον ὑπερφέρουσιν ἑκάτεροι τῇ ἰδίᾳ πονήσει τῇ συνεχεῖ, καὶ ὡς οὗτοι εἰ μετήνεγκαν τὴν ἄσκησιν καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ψυχήν, οὐκ ἂν ἀνωφελῶς καὶ ἀτελῶς ἐμόχθουν5.

​He used to say that training is twofold, one part mental, the other bodily; the latter being that in which the impressions that arise during continuous exercise provide agility for the deeds of virtue. And he said that the one is incomplete without the other, since good condition and strength in appropriate matters arise no less concerning the soul than concerning the body. And he would produce proofs of how easily one arrives at virtue from physical exercise: for one can see, both in the mechanical crafts and in the others, that craftsmen have acquired no ordinary manual dexterity from practice, and that flute-players and athletes surpass all others by their continuous individual exertion; and that if these men had transferred their training to the soul as well, they would not have labored uselessly and incompletely.

Syntax notes5 items
  1. 6.2.66οὗ τὸ ἀποτυχεῖν ἄμεινόν ἐστι

    The relative pronoun οὗ is the genitive object dependent on the verb τυχεῖν, with its antecedent omitted. The subject of the relative clause is the articular infinitive τὸ ἀποτυχεῖν ("failing to obtain [it]"). The phrase literally means: "[that] of which failing to attain is better."

  2. 6.2.67τοὺς ἐρῶντας ἔφη πρὸς ἡδονὴν ἀτυχεῖν

    The phrase πρὸς ἡδονήν can be understood either as specifying relation ("with respect to pleasure") or purpose ("for the sake of pleasure"). The verb ἀτυχεῖν means "to be unlucky, to fail"; the dictum suggests that lovers either suffer misfortune in their pursuit of pleasure or fail to attain true pleasure.

  3. 6.2.68τὴν κόρην φθείρῃς

    The noun κόρη means both "maiden / young girl" and "pupil of the eye." Diogenes plays on this double meaning (paronomasia), responding to κόρης ὀφθαλμόν and τὸν ὀφθαλμὸν τῆς παρθένου, warning the notorious adulterer not to ruin the girl's chastity (or destroy her pupil) while pretending to cure her eye.

  4. 6.2.70ταύτην καθʼ ἣν ἐν γυμνασίᾳ συνεχεῖ γινόμεναι φαντασίαι

    The demonstrative pronoun ταύτην refers back to τὴν δὲ σωματικήν ("the bodily [training]"), introducing an explanatory definition ("namely that [training] according to which...") in apposition. The subsequent clause stresses that neither training is complete without the other.

  5. 6.2.70οὐκ ἂν ἀνωφελῶς καὶ ἀτελῶς ἐμόχθουν

    This is the apodosis of a contrary-to-fact conditional construction within indirect speech. In direct discourse it would read εἰ μετήνεγκαν... οὐκ ἂν ... ἐμόχθουν ("if they had transferred..., they would not have been toiling..."), retaining the past indicative with ἄν.

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