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§6.2.48-6.2.53

Sharp Wit toward Citizens and Debate with Plato

The passage records Diogenes' sharp wit and satirical retorts directed at various figures—such as an incompetent singer, athletes, runaway slaves, and thieves—along with an exchange with Plato over the Theory of Forms.

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Τὸν κιθαρῳδὸν ἀεὶ καταλειπόμενον ὑπὸ τῶν ἀκροατῶν ἠσπάσατο, χαῖρε ἀλέκτορ· τοῦ δὲ εἰπόντος, διὰ τί; ὅτι, ἔφη, ᾅδων πάντας ἐγείρεις. μειρακίου ἐπιδεικνυμένου πληρώσας τὸ προκόλπιον θέρμων ἀντικρὺ ἔκαπτε· τοῦ δὲ πλήθους εἰς αὐτὸν ἀφορῶντος θαυμάζειν ἔφη πῶς ἐκεῖνον ἀφέντες εἰς αὐτὸν ὁρῶσι. λέγοντος δʼ αὐτῷ τινος ἰσχυρῶς δεισιδαίμονος, μιᾷ πληγῇ τὴν κεφαλήν σου διαρρήξω, ἐγὼ δέ γε, εἶπε, πταρὼν ἐξ ἀριστερῶν τρέμειν σε ποιήσω. Ἡγησίου παρακαλοῦντος χρῆσαί τι αὐτῷ τῶν συγγραμμάτων, μάταιος, ἔφη, τυγχάνεις, ὦ Ἡγησία, ὃς ἰσχάδας μὲν γραπτὰς οὐχ αἱρῇ, ἀλλὰ τὰς ἀληθινάς· ἄσκησιν δὲ παριδὼν τὴν ἀληθινὴν ἐπὶ τὴν γεγραμμένην ὁρμᾷς.

​To the citharode who was always deserted by his listeners, he gave the greeting, "Hail, cock!" When the man asked, "Why?" Diogenes said, "Because by your singing you wake everyone up." When a youth was giving a recitation, he filled the fold of his cloak with lupines and sat munching them opposite him; and when the crowd stared at him, he said he wondered how it was that, having left that fellow, they were looking at him. When an intensely superstitious man said to him, "With a single blow I will shatter your head," he replied, "And I, by sneezing on your left, will make you tremble." When Hegesias asked him to lend him one of his treatises, he said, "You are a foolish man, Hegesias, who do not choose painted dried figs, but real ones; yet having overlooked the true training, you hasten after that which is written."

Πρός τε τὸν ὀνειδίσαντα αὐτῷ τὴν φυγήν, ἀλλὰ τούτου γʼ ἕνεκεν, εἶπεν, ὦ κακόδαιμον, ἐφιλοσόφησα. καὶ πάλιν εἰπόντος τινός, Σινωπεῖς σου φυγὴν κατέγνωσαν, ἐγὼ δέ γε, εἶπεν, ἐκείνων μονήν1. ἰδών ποτʼ Ὀλυμπιονίκην πρόβατα νέμοντα, ταχέως, εἶπεν, ὦ βέλτιστε, μετέβης ἀπὸ τῶν Ὀλυμπίων ἐπὶ τὰ Νέμεα. ἐρωτηθεὶς διὰ τί οἱ ἀθληταὶ ἀναίσθητοί εἰσιν, ἔφη, ὅτι κρέασιν ὑείοις καὶ βοείοις ἀνῳκοδόμηνται. ᾔτει ποτὲ ἀνδριάντα· ἐρωτηθεὶς δὲ διὰ τί τοῦτο ποιεῖ, μελετῶ, εἶπεν, ἀποτυγχάνειν. αἰτῶν τινα—καὶ γὰρ τοῦτο πρῶτον ἐποίει διὰ τὴν ἀπορίαν —ἔφη, εἰ μὲν καὶ ἄλλῳ δέδωκας, δὸς κἀμοί· εἰ δὲ μή, ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ ἄρξαι.

​In answer to the one who reproached him with his exile, he said, "Yet it was on this account, you wretched man, that I took up philosophy." And again, when someone said, "The Sinopeans condemned you to exile," he said, "And I condemned them to stay at home." Once, seeing an Olympic victor tending sheep, he said, "Quickly, my good sir, you have passed from the Olympic to the Nemean games (grazing grounds)." Being asked why athletes are insensible, he said, "Because they are built up with swine's flesh and beef." Once he was begging of a statue; and being asked why he did so, he said, "I am practicing failure." While begging of someone—for he was doing this at first because of his poverty—he said, "If you have given to another as well, give to me also; but if not, begin with me."

Ἐρωτηθείς ποτε ὑπὸ τυράννου ποῖος εἴη ἀμείνων χαλκὸς εἰς ἀνδριάντα, ἔφη, ἀφʼ οὗ Ἁρμόδιος καὶ Ἀριστογείτων ἐχαλκεύθησαν. ἐρωτηθεὶς πῶς χρῆται Διονύσιος τοῖς φίλοις, ἔφη, ὡς θυλάκοις, τοὺς μὲν πλήρεις κρημνῶν, τοὺς δὲ κενοὺς ῥίπτων. νεογάμου ἐπιγράψαντος ἐπὶ τὴν οἰκίαν, "ὁ τοῦ Διὸς παῖς καλλίνικος Ἡρακλῆς ἐνθάδε κατοικεῖ. μηδὲν εἰσίτω κακόν·" ἐπέγραψε· μετὰ τὸν πόλεμον ἡ συμμαχία. τὴν φιλαργυρίαν εἶπε μητρόπολιν πάντων τῶν κακῶν. ἄσωτον θεασάμενος ἐν πανδοκείῳ ἐλάας ἐσθίοντʼ ἔφη, εἰ οὕτως ἠρίστας, οὐκ ἂν οὕτως ἐδείπνεις2.

​Once, being asked by a tyrant what kind of bronze was better for a statue, he said, "That from which Harmodius and Aristogeiton were forged." Being asked how Dionysius treated his friends, he said, "Like sacks: hanging up those that are full, and throwing away those that are empty." When a newly married man wrote upon his house, "The son of Zeus, glorious victor Heracles, dwells here; let no evil enter," Diogenes added underneath, "An alliance after the war." He called the love of money the metropolis of all evils. Seeing a spendthrift eating olives in an inn, he said, "If you had breakfasted in this way, you would not be dining in this way."

Τοὺς ἀγαθοὺς ἄνδρας θεῶν εἰκόνας εἶναι· τὸν ἔρωτα σχολαζόντων ἀσχολίαν. ἐρωτηθεὶς τί ἄθλιον ἐν βίῳ, ἔφη, γέρων ἄπορος. ἐρωτηθεὶς τί τῶν θηρίων κάκιστα δάκνει, ἔφη, τῶν μὲν ἀγρίων συκοφάντης, τῶν δὲ ἡμέρων κόλαξ. ἰδών ποτε δύο κενταύρους κάκιστα ἐζωγραφημένους ἔφη· πότερος τούτων Χείρων ἐστί; τὸν πρὸς χάριν λόγον ἔφη μελιτίνην ἀγχόνην εἶναι. τὴν γαστέρα Χάρυβδιν ἔλεγε τοῦ βίου. ἀκούσας ποτὲ ὅτι Διδύμων ὁ αὐλητὴς μοιχὸς ἑάλω, ἄξιος, ἔφη, ἐκ τοῦ ὀνόματος κρέμασθαι3. ἐρωτηθεὶς διὰ τί τὸ χρυσίον χλωρόν ἐστιν, ἔφη, ὅτι πολλοὺς ἔχει τοὺς ἐπιβουλεύοντας. ἰδὼν γυναῖκα ἐν φορείῳ, οὐ κατὰ τὸ θηρίον, ἔφη, ἡ γαλεάγρα.

​He said that good men are images of gods, and that love is the business of the idle. Being asked what was wretched in life, he said, "An old man in want." Being asked which beasts bite worst, he said, "Of wild beasts, the sycophant; of tame ones, the flatterer." Once, seeing two centaurs very badly painted, he said, "Which of these is Chiron (inferior)?" He said that speech meant to please was a honeyed halter. He called the belly the Charybdis of life. Once, hearing that Didymon the flute-player had been caught as an adulterer, he said, "He deserves to be hanged by his name (by the testicles)." Being asked why gold is pale yellow, he said, "Because it has many people plotting against it." Seeing a woman in a litter, he said, "The marten-trap does not suit the beast."

Ἰδών ποτε δραπέτην ἐπὶ φρέατι καθήμενον ἔφη, μειράκιον, βλέπε μὴ ἐμπέσῃς. ἰδὼν [μειρακύλλιον] ἱματιοκλέπτην ἐν τῷ βαλανείῳ ἔφη, ἐπʼ ἀλειμμάτιον ἢ ἐπʼ ἄλλʼ ἱμάτιον; ἰδών ποτε γυναῖκας ἀπʼ ἐλαίας ἀπηγχονισμένας, εἴθε γάρ, ἔφη, πάντα τὰ δένδρα τοιοῦτον καρπὸν ἤνεγκεν. ἰδὼν λωποδύτην ἔφη, "τἰπτε σὺ ὧδε, φέριστε; ἦ τινα συλήσων νεκύων κατατεθνηώτων;" ἐρωτηθεὶς εἰ παιδισκάριον ἢ παιδάριον ἔχοι, ἔφη, οὔ· τοῦ δὲ εἰπόντος, ἐὰν οὖν ἀποθάνῃς, τίς σε ἐξοίσει; ἔφη, ὁ χρῄζων τῆς οἰκίας.

​Once, seeing a runaway slave sitting upon a well, he said, "Youth, look out lest you fall in." Seeing a clothes-thief in the bathhouse, he said, "Are you after a small bottle of oil, or another cloak?" Once, seeing women hanged from an olive tree, he said, "Would that all trees bore such fruit." Seeing a footpad, he said, "Why are you here, noble sir? Surely not to strip some of the dead corpses?" Being asked if he had a maidservant or a manservant, he said, "No." And when the other said, "If then you die, who will carry you out?" he said, "The one who wants the house."

Μειράκιον εὔμορφον ἀφυλάκτως ἰδὼν κοιμώμενον, νύξας, ἐπέγειραι, ἔφη, "μή τίς τοι εὕδοντι μεταφρένῳ ἐν δόρυ πήξῃ." πρὸς τὸν πολυτελῶς ὀψωνοῦντα, "ὠκύμορος δή μοι, τέκος, ἔσσεαι, οἷʼ ἀγοράζεις;" Πλάτωνος περὶ ἰδεῶν διαλεγομένου καὶ ὀνομάζοντος τραπεζότητα καὶ κυαθότητα, ἐγώ, εἶπεν, ὦ Πλάτων, τράπεζαν μὲν καὶ κύαθον ὁρῶ· τραπεζότητα δὲ καὶ κυαθότητα οὐδαμῶς· καὶ ὅς, κατὰ λόγον, ἔφη· οἷς μὲν γὰρ κύαθος καὶ τράπεζα θεωρεῖται, ὀφθαλμοὺς ἔχεις· ᾧ δὲ τραπεζότης καὶ κυαθότης βλέπεται, νοῦν οὐκ ἔχεις.

​Seeing a handsome youth sleeping unguardedly, he nudged him and said, "Awake, 'lest someone fix a spear in your back while you sleep.'" To the man buying delicacies at great expense, he said, "'Short-lived indeed, my child, will you be, buying such things as these.'" When Plato was discoursing on Ideas and naming 'tablehood' and 'cuphood,' Diogenes said, "As for me, Plato, I see a table and a cup, but tablehood and cuphood I do not see at all." And Plato replied, "Reasonably so; for you possess eyes, by which a cup and a table are perceived; but intelligence, by which tablehood and cuphood are seen, you do not possess."

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 6.2.49Σινωπεῖς σου φυγὴν κατέγνωσαν, ἐγὼ δέ γε, εἶπεν, ἐκείνων μονήν

    The verb καταγιγνώσκω takes a genitive of the person and an accusative of the penalty or charge. Diogenes matches the interlocutor's syntax (Σινωπεῖς σου φυγὴν κατέγνωσαν, 'the Sinopeans condemned you to exile') by inverting the terms (ἐγὼ δέ γε... ἐκείνων μονήν, 'and I condemned them to remain'), retaining the genitive of person (ἐκείνων) and accusative of penalty (μονήν).

  2. 6.2.50εἰ οὕτως ἠρίστας, οὐκ ἂν οὕτως ἐδείπνεις

    A mixed contrafactual conditional using the imperfect indicative in both clauses (ἠρίστας, ἐδείπνεις). The protasis (εἰ οὕτως ἠρίστας) presents a past contrafactual supposition ('if you had regularly breakfasted in this frugal way'), while the apodosis with ἄν (οὐκ ἂν οὕτως ἐδείπνεις) describes the present contrary-to-fact result ('you would not now be dining in this frugal way').

  3. 6.2.51ἄξιος... ἐκ τοῦ ὀνόματος κρέμασθαι

    A wordplay on the piper's name Didymon (Διδύμων) and δίδυμοι ('twins', anatomically used of the testicles). The prepositional phrase ἐκ τοῦ ὀνόματος operates simultaneously as 'in accordance with his name' (metaphorical source/justification) and 'by his name (i.e. by the testicles)' as the physical point of suspension for hanging (κρέμασθαι).

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