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§6.2.42-6.2.47

Retaliation against Meidias and Wit on Prayer and Rulers

Numerous witty anecdotes of Diogenes are recounted: his retaliation against Meidias, his attitudes toward the gods, prayer, and dreams, his biting responses to Philip and Perdiccas, and his sharp quips satirizing luxury, hypocrisy, and vice.

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ἀλλὰ καὶ Μειδίου κονδυλίσαντος αὐτὸν καὶ εἰπόντος, τρισχίλιαί σοι κεῖνται ἐπὶ τῇ τραπέζῃ, τῇ ἑξῆς πυκτικοὺς λαβὼν ἱμάντας καὶ καταλοήσας αὐτὸν ἔφη, τρισχίλιαί σοι κεῖνται ἐπὶ τῇ τραπέζῃ. Λυσίου τοῦ φαρμακοπώλου πυθομένου εἰ θεοὺς νομίζει, πῶς δέ, εἶπεν, οὐ νομίζω, ὅπου καὶ σὲ θεοῖς ἐχθρὸν ὑπολαμβάνω1; οἱ δὲ Θεόδωρον εἰπεῖν τοῦτο. ἰδών τινα περιρραινόμενον ἐπεῖπεν, ὦ κακόδαιμον, οὐκ ἐπίστασαι ὅτι ὥσπερ τῶν ἐν γραμματικῇ ἁμαρτημάτων περιρραινόμενος οὐκ ἂν ἀπαλλαγείης, οὕτως οὐδὲ τῶν ἐν τῷ βίῳ; ἐνεκάλει τοῖς ἀνθρώποις περὶ τῆς εὐχῆς, αἰτεῖσθαι λέγων αὐτοὺς ἀγαθὰ τὰ αὐτοῖς δοκοῦντα καὶ οὐ τὰ κατʼ ἀλήθειαν.

​Moreover, when Meidias gave him a blow with his fist and said, "Three thousand drachmas are deposited for you on the banker's table," on the following day Diogenes took boxing thongs, beat him soundly, and said, "Three thousand drachmas are deposited for you on the banker's table." When Lysias the apothecary asked whether he believed in gods, he said, "How should I not believe, seeing that I regard even you as hateful to the gods?" Some, however, say that Theodorus said this. Seeing someone performing lustrations, he remarked, "Unfortunate man, do you not know that just as you could not be freed from errors in grammar by sprinkling yourself with water, so neither could you from those in life?" He used to reprove men regarding prayer, saying that they asked for things that seemed good to them, not those that are truly good.

πρὸς δὲ τοὺς περὶ τὰ ὀνείρατα ἐπτοημένους ἔλεγεν ὡς ὑπὲρ ὧν μὲν πράττουσιν ὕπαρ, οὐκ ἐπιστρέφονται, ὑπὲρ ὧν δὲ καθεύδοντες φαντασιοῦνται, πολυπραγμονοῦσιν. Ὀλυμπίασι τοῦ κήρυκος ἀνειπόντος, νικᾷ Διώξιππος ἄνδρας, οὗτος μὲν δὴ ἀνδράποδα, ἄνδρας δʼ ἐγώ. Ἠγαπᾶτο δὲ καὶ πρὸς Ἀθηναίων· μειρακίου γοῦν τὸν πίθον αὐτοῦ συντρίψαντος, τῷ μὲν πληγὰς ἔδοσαν, ἐκείνῳ δὲ ἄλλον παρέσχον. φησὶ δὲ Διονύσιος ὁ στωικὸς ὡς μετὰ Χαιρώνειαν συλληφθεὶς ἀπήχθη πρὸς Φίλιππον· καὶ ἐρωτηθεὶς ὅστις εἴη, ἀπεκρίνατο, κατάσκοπος τῆς σῆς ἀπληστίας· ὅθεν θαυμασθεὶς ἀφείθη.

​To those alarmed about dreams, he would say that they paid no heed to what they did while awake, yet busied themselves with what they imagined while asleep. At Olympia, when the herald proclaimed, "Dioxippus is victorious over men," Diogenes said, "He indeed over slaves, but I over men." He was beloved even by the Athenians; at any rate, when a youth broke his tub, they gave the youth a thrashing and provided Diogenes with another. Dionysius the Stoic says that after Chaeronea he was captured and brought before Philip; and on being asked who he was, he replied, "A spy upon your insatiable greed;" whereat he was admired and released.

Ἀλεξάνδρου ποτὲ πέμψαντος ἐπιστολὴν πρὸς Ἀντίπατρον εἰς Ἀθήνας διά τινος Ἀθλίου, παρὼν ἔφη· "ἄθλιος παρʼ ἀθλίου διʼ ἀθλίου πρὸς ἄθλιον." Περδίκκου ἀπειλήσαντος, εἰ μὴ ἔλθοι πρὸς αὐτόν, ἀποκτενεῖν, ἔφη, οὐδὲν μέγα· καὶ γὰρ κάνθαρος καὶ φαλάγγιον τοῦτʼ ἂν πράξειεν· ἐκεῖνο δὲ μᾶλλον ἀπειλεῖν ἠξίου ὡς εἰ καὶ χωρὶς ἐμοῦ ζήσαι, εὐδαιμόνως ζήσοιτο2. ἐβόα πολλάκις λέγων τὸν τῶν ἀνθρώπων βίον ῥᾴδιον ὑπὸ τῶν θεῶν δεδόσθαι, ἀποκεκρύφθαι δʼ αὐτῶν ζητούντων μελίπηκτα καὶ μύρα καὶ τὰ παραπλήσια. ὅθεν πρὸς τὸν ὑπὸ τοῦ οἰκέτου ὑποδούμενον, οὔπω, εἶπε, μακάριος εἶ, ἂν μή σε καὶ ἀπομύξῃ· τοῦτο δʼ ἔσται πηρωθέντι σοι τὰς χεῖρας.

​Once, when Alexander sent a letter to Antipater in Athens by a certain Athlias, Diogenes, who was present, said: "A wretched man, from a wretched man, through a wretched man, to a wretched man." When Perdiccas threatened to kill him if he did not come to him, he said, "Nothing great: for even a beetle and a tarantula could do that;" but he deemed that he ought rather to threaten thus: "that even if he lived without me, he would live happily." He would frequently shout, saying that an easy life had been given by the gods to men, but that it was concealed from them as they sought honey-cakes, perfumes, and the like. Hence, to the man being shod by his servant, he said, "Not yet are you blissful, unless he also wipes your nose; and that will happen when you have your hands crippled."

Θεασάμενός ποτε τοὺς ἱερομνήμονας τῶν ταμιῶν τινα φιάλην ὑφῃρημένον ἀπάγοντας ἔφη, οἱ μεγάλοι κλέπται τὸν μικρὸν ἀπάγουσι. θεασάμενός ποτε μειράκιον λίθους βάλλον ἐπὶ σταυρόν, εὖγε, εἶπε, τεύξῃ γὰρ τοῦ σκοποῦ3. πρὸς τὰ περιστάντα μειράκια καὶ εἰπόντα, βλέπωμεν μὴ δάκῃ ἡμᾶς, θαρρεῖτε, ἔφη, παιδία· κύων τευτλία οὐκ ἐσθίει. πρὸς τὸν ἐπὶ τῇ λεοντῇ θρυπτόμενον, παῦσαι, ἔφη, τὰ τῆς ἀρετῆς στρώματα καταισχύνων. πρὸς τὸν μακαρίζοντα Καλλισθένην καὶ λέγοντα ὡς πολυτελῶν παρʼ Ἀλεξάνδρῳ μετέχει, κακοδαίμων μὲν οὖν ἐστιν, εἶπεν, ὃς καὶ ἀριστᾷ καὶ δειπνεῖ ὅταν Ἀλεξάνδρῳ δόξῃ.

​Once, seeing the temple officials leading off one of the treasurers who had stolen a phiale, he said, "The great thieves are leading off the small one." Once, seeing a youth throwing stones at a cross, he said, "Well done; for you will hit your mark (reach your end)." To the youths who stood around him and said, "Let us watch out lest he bite us," he said, "Take heart, boys: a dog does not eat beetroots." To the man strutting in a lion's skin, he said, "Stop disgracing the trappings of virtue." To the one who congratulated Callisthenes and remarked what luxuries he shared at Alexander's side, he said, "Rather, he is a wretched man, who breakfasts and dines whenever it pleases Alexander."

Χρημάτων δεόμενος ἀπαιτεῖν ἔλεγε τοὺς φίλους, οὐκ αἰτεῖν. ἐπʼ ἀγορᾶς ποτε χειρουργῶν, εἴθε, ἔφη, καὶ τὴν κοιλίαν ἦν παρατρίψαντα μὴ πεινῆν. μειράκιον θεασάμενος μετὰ σατραπῶν ἐπὶ δεῖπνον ἀπιόν, ἀποσπάσας πρὸς τοὺς οἰκείους ἀπήγαγε καὶ ἐκέλευσε τηρεῖν. πρὸς τὸ κεκοσμημένον μειράκιον πυθόμενόν τι ἔφη οὐ πρότερον λέξειν αὐτῷ, εἰ μὴ ἀνασυράμενος δείξειε πότερον γυνή ἐστιν ἢ ἀνήρ. πρὸς τὸ κοτταβίζον ἐν τῷ βαλανείῳ μειράκιόν φησιν, ὅσῳ βέλτιον, τοσούτῳ χεῖρον. ἐν δείπνῳ προσερρίπτουν αὐτῷ τινες ὀστάρια ὡς κυνί· καὶ ὃς ἀπαλλαττόμενος προσεούρησεν αὐτοῖς ὡς κύων.

​When in need of money, he used to say that he demanded it back from his friends, not that he begged for it. Once, while masturbating in the market-place, he said, "Would that it were possible by rubbing one's belly likewise not to be hungry." Seeing a youth going off to dine with satraps, he tore him away, led him off to his family, and bade them watch over him. To a dressed-up youth who asked him a question, he said he would not answer him beforehand unless he tucked up his clothes and showed whether he was a woman or a man. To the youth playing cottabus in the bathhouse, he said, "The better, the worse." At a dinner party, some people threw small bones at him as if to a dog; and as he departed, he urinated on them like a dog.

Τοὺς ῥήτορας καὶ πάντας τοὺς ἐνδοξολογοῦντας τρισανθρώπους ἀπεκάλει ἀντὶ τοῦ τρισαθλίους. τὸν ἀμαθῆ πλούσιον πρόβατον εἶπε χρυσόμαλλον. θεασάμενος ἐπὶ ἀσώτου οἰκίᾳ ἐπιγεγραμμένον, πράσιμος, ᾔδειν, εἶπεν, ὅτι οὕτω κραιπαλῶσα ῥᾳδίως ἐξεμέσοις τὸν κεκτημένον. πρὸς τὸ καταιτιώμενον μειράκιον τὸ πλῆθος τῶν ἐνοχλούντων, παῦσαι γάρ, ἔφη, καὶ σὺ τὰ δείγματα τοῦ πασχητιῶντος περιφέρων4. πρὸς τὸ ῥυπαρὸν βαλανεῖον, οἱ ἐνθάδε, ἔφη, λουσάμενοι ποῦ λοῦνται; παχέος κιθαρῳδοῦ πρὸς πάντων μεμφομένου αὐτὸς μόνος ἐπῄνει· ἐρωτηθεὶς δὲ διὰ τί, ἔφη, ὅτι τηλικοῦτος ὢν κιθαρῳδεῖ καὶ οὐ λῃστεύει.

​He used to call the rhetoricians and all those giving praise for glory 'thrice-men' instead of 'thrice-wretched.' An uneducated rich man he called a 'golden-fleeced sheep.' Seeing written upon the house of a spendthrift, "For sale," he said, "I knew that, drunk as you are, you would easily vomit out your owner." To the youth complaining of the crowd of those annoying him, he said, "Then stop parading about with the marks of a pathic yourself." To the dirty bathhouse, he said, "Those who bathe here, where do they wash themselves?" When a portly citharode was being blamed by everyone, he alone praised him; and being asked why, he said, "Because, being of such a size, he sings to the cithara and does not turn bandit."

Syntax notes4 items
  1. 6.2.42ὅπου καὶ σὲ θεοῖς ἐχθρὸν ὑπολαμβάνω

    ὅπου here functions not locally, but as a causal or conditional conjunction meaning 'seeing that' or 'inasmuch as'. The recognition of Lysias as an 'enemy to the gods' serves as the premise for believing that gods exist.

  2. 6.2.44εἰ καὶ χωρὶς ἐμοῦ ζήσαι, εὐδαιμόνως ζήσοιτο

    Optative in indirect discourse (after ὡς). Subordinate to the past-tense main verb ἠξίου, the condition and conclusion of the direct statement have been shifted to the oblique optative (ζήσαι, ζήσοιτο).

  3. 6.2.45τεύξῃ γὰρ τοῦ σκοποῦ

    A double entendre on σκοπός, which means both the 'target' of a missile and one's 'goal/destiny'. Diogenes plays on the boy hitting the physical target (the cross/stake) and his eventually meeting that very fate (crucifixion).

  4. 6.2.47παῦσαι γὰρ ... περιφέρων

    παῦσαι is the second-person singular middle imperative of παύω, constructed with the supplementary participle περιφέρων ('stop carrying/parading about'). γάρ introduces a brisk, corrective explanation in reply to the youth's complaint.

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