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- Diogenes Laertius. Hicks, R. D., editor. Cambridge, MA.: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1925.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-09-24
This section describes Menedemus' unceremonious teaching style, anxious temperament in politics, robust physical appearance, literary preferences (especially Homer and Achaeus), and eristic dialectic.
πρὸς δὲ τοῦτο ἀπαντήσαντος τοῦ τυράννου καὶ εἰπόντος ὡς ταύτην τὴν ἡμέραν ἔχοι σχολάζουσαν πρὸς τὸ διακούειν φιλοσόφων, ἔτι καὶ μᾶλλον αὐστηρότερον ἐνέκειτο1, δεικνὺς ἐπὶ τῆς θυσίας ὡς χρὴ πάντα καιρὸν φιλοσόφων ἀκούειν· ὥστʼ εἰ μή τις αὐλητὴς αὐτοὺς διεπέμψατο, κἂν ἀπώλοντο. ὅθεν χειμαζομένων ἐν τῷ πλοίῳ τὸν Ἀσκληπιάδην φασὶν εἰπεῖν ὡς ἡ μὲν τοῦ αὐλητοῦ εὐμουσία σέσωκεν αὐτούς, ἡ δὲ τοῦ Μενεδήμου παρρησία ἀπολώλεκεν. Ἦν δέ, φασί, καὶ ἐκκλίτης καὶ τὰ τῆς σχολῆς ἀδιάφορος, οὔτε τάξιν γοῦν τινὰ ἦν παρʼ αὐτῷ βλέπειν οὔτε βάθρα κύκλῳ διέκειτο, ἀλλʼ οὗ ἂν ἕκαστος ἔτυχε περιπατῶν ἢ καθήμενος ἤκουε, καὶ αὐτοῦ τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον διακειμένου.
When the tyrant replied to this by saying that he kept this day free for hearing philosophers, he pressed his attack even more severely, demonstrating over the sacrifice that one ought to listen to philosophers at all times; so that, had not a flute-player smuggled them away, they would have perished. Hence, when they were tossed by a storm at sea, Asclepiades is said to have remarked that the flute-player's skill had saved them, while Menedemus' outspokenness had ruined them. He was also, they say, unpretentious and indifferent about the formal arrangements of his school. At any rate, no order was to be seen in his presence, nor were benches set in a circle; instead, each person listened wherever he happened to be, walking about or sitting down, and he himself was disposed in the same manner.
ἀγωνιάτης μέντοι, φασίν, ἦν ἄλλως καὶ φιλόδοξος ὥστε τὸ πρότερον τέκτονι συνοικοδομοῦντες αὐτός τε καὶ ὁ Ἀσκληπιάδης, ὁ μὲν Ἀσκληπιάδης ἐφαίνετο γυμνὸς ἐπὶ τοῦ τέγους τὸν πηλὸν παραφέρων, ὁ δὲ εἴ τινʼ ἴδοι ἐρχόμενον, παρεκρύπτετο. ἐπεὶ δʼ ἥψατο τῆς πολιτείας, οὕτως ἦν ἀγωνιάτης ὥστε καὶ τὸν λιβανωτὸν τιθεὶς διήμαρτε τοῦ θυμιατηρίου. καί ποτε Κράτητος περιισταμένου αὐτὸν καὶ καθαπτομένου εἰς τὸ ὅτι πολιτεύεται, ἐκέλευσέ τισιν εἰς τὸ δεσμωτήριον αὐτὸν ἐμβαλεῖν· τὸν δὲ μηδὲν ἧττον τηρεῖν παριόντα καὶ ὑπερκύπτοντα Ἀγαμεμνόνειόν τε καὶ Ἡγησίπολιν ἀποκαλεῖν2.
Nevertheless, they say he was in other respects anxious and ambitious, so that formerly, when he and Asclepiades were working together as builders under a carpenter, Asclepiades appeared naked on the roof carrying the clay, whereas he would hide himself if he saw anyone coming. When he entered political life, he was so anxious that, even when placing incense, he missed the censer. And once, when Crates was standing around him and rebuking him for taking part in politics, he ordered certain men to throw him into prison; but Crates, keeping watch none the less as he passed by, leaned over and kept calling him "Agamemnon" and "Leader of the City."
Ἦν δέ πως ἠρέμα καὶ δεισιδαιμονέστερος σὺν γοῦν Ἀσκληπιάδῃ κατʼ ἄγνοιαν ἐν πανδοκείῳ ποτὲ κρεάτων ῥιπτουμένων φαγών, ἐπειδὴ μάθοι, ἐναυτία τε καὶ ὠχρία· ἕως Ἀσκληπιάδης ἐπετίμησεν αὐτῷ ὡς οὐδὲν [εἰπὼν] ἠνώχλησεν αὐτὸν τὰ κρέα, ἀλλʼ ἡ περὶ τούτων ὑπόνοια. τὰ δʼ ἄλλα μεγαλόψυχος ἀνὴρ ἦν καὶ ἐλευθέριος. κατά τε τὴν ἕξιν τὴν σωματικὴν ἤδη καὶ πρεσβύτης ὑπάρχων οὐδὲν ἧττον ἀθλητοῦ στερεός τε καὶ ἐπικεκαυμένος τὸ εἶδος, πίων τε καὶ τετριμμένος τὸ δὲ μέγεθος σύμμετρος, ὡς δῆλον ἐκ τοῦ εἰκονίου τοῦ ἐν Ἐρετρίᾳ ἐν τῷ ἀρχαίῳ σταδίῳ. ἔστι γάρ, ὡς ἐπίτηδες, παράγυμνον, τὰ πλεῖστα μέρη φαῖνον τοῦ σώματος.
He was also, somehow, slightly superstitious. At any rate, when he once ate meat that had been thrown out, in an inn with Asclepiades through ignorance, as soon as he found out he became nauseated and turned pale; until Asclepiades reproved him, saying that the meat had not troubled him at all, but only the suspicion regarding it. In other respects he was a magnanimous and liberal man. In bodily condition, though already an elderly man, he was no less firm than an athlete, sunburnt in appearance, well-nourished and hardened, and well-proportioned in size, as is clear from the small statue in the ancient stadium at Eretria; for it is, as if on purpose, half-naked, displaying most parts of his body.
Ἦν δὲ καὶ φιλυπόδοχος καὶ διὰ τὸ νοσῶδες τῆς Ἐρετρίας πλείω συνάγων συμπόσια· ἐν οἷς καὶ ποιητῶν καὶ μουσικῶν. ἠσπάζετο δὲ καὶ Ἄρατον καὶ Λυκόφρονα τὸν τῆς τραγῳδίας ποιητὴν καὶ τὸν Ῥόδιον Ἀνταγόραν· μάλιστα δὲ πάντων Ὁμήρῳ προσεῖχεν· εἶτα καὶ τοῖς μελικοῖς· ἔπειτα Σοφοκλεῖ, καὶ δὴ καὶ Ἀχαιῷ, ᾧπερ καὶ τὸ δευτερεῖον ἐν τοῖς Σατύροις, Αἰσχύλῳ δὲ τὸ πρωτεῖον ἀπεδίδου. ὅθεν καὶ πρὸς τοὺς ἀντιπολιτευομένους ταῦτα, φασί, προεφέρετο· "ἡλίσκετʼ ἆρα καὶ πρὸς ἀσθενῶν ταχύς, καὶ πρὸς χελώνης ἀετὸς βραχεῖ χρόνῳ."
He was also fond of hospitality, and because of the unhealthy climate of Eretria he held rather frequent dinner-parties, among which were poets and musicians. He welcomed Aratus, the tragic poet Lycophron, and Antagoras of Rhodes; but most of all he applied himself to Homer, then also to the lyric poets, next to Sophocles, and especially to Achaeus, to whom he assigned the second prize in satyr-plays, while granting the first prize to Aeschylus. Hence, they say, he also quoted these lines against his political opponents: "So the swift was caught even by the weak, and the eagle by the tortoise in a short time."
ταῦτα δʼ ἐστὶν Ἀχαιοῦ ἐκ τῆς σατυρικῆς Ὀμφάλης· ὥστε πταίουσιν οἱ λέγοντες μηδὲν αὐτὸν ἀνεγνωκέναι πλὴν τῆς Μηδείας τῆς Εὐριπίδου, ἣν ἔνιοι Νεόφρονος εἶναι τοῦ Σικυωνίου φασί. Τῶν δὲ διδασκάλων τοὺς περὶ Πλάτωνα καὶ Ξενοκράτην, ἔτι τε Παραιβάτην τὸν Κυρηναῖον κατεφρόνει, Στίλπωνα δʼ ἐτεθαυμάκει· καί ποτε ἐρωτηθεὶς περὶ αὐτοῦ ἄλλο μὲν οὐδὲν εἶπε πλὴν ὅτι ἐλευθέριος. ἦν δὲ καὶ δυσκατανόητος ὁ Μενέδημος καὶ ἐν τῷ συνθέσθαι δυσανταγώνιστος3· ἐστρέφετό τε πρὸς πάντα καὶ εὑρεσιλόγει· ἐριστικώτατός τε, καθά φησιν Ἀντισθένης ἐν Διαδοχαῖς, ἦν. καὶ δὴ καὶ τόδε ἐρωτᾶν εἰώθει· τὸ ἕτερον τοῦ ἑτέρου ἕτερόν ἐστι; ναί. ἕτερον δέ ἐστι τὸ ὠφελεῖν τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ; ναί. οὐκ ἄρα τὸ ὠφελεῖν ἀγαθόν ἐστιν.
These lines are from the satyr-play *Omphale* of Achaeus; so those are mistaken who say that he read nothing except the *Medea* of Euripides, which some say belongs to Neophron of Sicyon. Among teachers, he despised those around Plato and Xenocrates, and also Paraebates the Cyrenaic, but he admired Stilpo; and once, when asked about him, he said nothing other than that he was a liberal man. Menedemus was also hard to grasp, and difficult to contend with in reaching an agreement; he would turn in all directions and invent verbal quibbles; and, as Antisthenes says in his *Successions*, he was extremely fond of eristic argument. Indeed, he was also accustomed to ask this question: "Is one thing different from another?" "Yes." "And is being beneficial different from the good?" "Yes." "Then being beneficial is not good."
- 2.17.130ἔτι καὶ μᾶλλον αὐστηρότερον ἐνέκειτο
A pleonastic comparative construction where the adverbial phrase ἔτι καὶ μᾶλλον strengthens the comparative αὐστηρότερον. The reinforcement emphasizes the heightened intensity of his rebuke upon hearing the tyrant's excuse.
- 2.17.131τὸν δὲ μηδὲν ἧττον τηρεῖν παριόντα καὶ ὑπερκύπτοντα Ἀγαμεμνόνειόν τε καὶ Ἡγησίπολιν ἀποκαλεῖν
An accusative and infinitive construction governed by the preceding general reporting verb φασίν. The accusative τὸν δέ refers to Crates, functioning as the subject of the infinitives τηρεῖν and ἀποκαλεῖν, describing how Crates leaned out of the prison (ὑπερκύπτοντα) and mocked Menedemus as he passed.
- 2.17.134ἐν τῷ συνθέσθαι δυσανταγώνιστος
The articular middle infinitive phrase ἐν τῷ συνθέσθαι signifies 'in agreeing' or 'in conceding premises / coming to terms'. It describes him as an adversary hard to contend with (δυσανταγώνιστος) whenever it came to accepting common ground or yielding in philosophical debate.
