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- Diogenes Laertius. Hicks, R. D., editor. Cambridge, MA.: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1925.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-09-24
The origins of Menedemus, his studies under Plato and Stilpo leading to the founding of the Eretrian school, and various anecdotes illustrating his severe dignity, biting wit, and outspoken candor are recounted.
[Μενέδημος] Οὗτος τῶν ἀπὸ Φαίδωνος, Κλεισθένους τοῦ τῶν Θεοπροπιδῶν καλουμένων υἱός, ἀνδρὸς εὐγενοῦς μέν, ἀρχιτέκτονος δὲ καὶ πένητος· οἱ δὲ καὶ σκηνογράφον αὐτὸν εἶναί φασι καὶ μαθεῖν ἑκάτερα τὸν Μενέδημον· ὅθεν γράψαντος αὐτοῦ ψήφισμά τι καθήψατό τις Ἀλεξίνειος, εἰπὼν ὡς οὔτε σκηνὴν οὔτε ψήφισμα προσήκει τῷ σοφῷ γράφειν1. πεμφθεὶς δὲ φρουρὸς ὁ Μενέδημος ὑπὸ τῶν Ἐρετριέων εἰς Μέγαρα ἀνῆλθεν εἰς Ἀκαδημείαν πρὸς Πλάτωνα, καὶ θηραθεὶς κατέλιπε τὴν στρατείαν.
[Menedemus] He belonged to the school of Phaedo, being the son of Cleisthenes, of the family of the so-called Theopropidae, a man of noble birth, but a builder and poor; though some say that he was also a scene-painter and that Menedemus learned both crafts. Hence, when he drafted a decree, one of the followers of Alexinus attacked him, saying that it was fitting for a wise man neither to paint a stage nor to draft a decree. Being sent by the Eretrians as a garrison soldier to Megara, Menedemus visited the Academy to hear Plato, and being captivated he abandoned military service.
Ἀσκληπιάδου δὲ τοῦ Φλιασίου περισπάσαντος αὐτὸν ἐγένετο ἐν Μεγάροις παρὰ Στίλπωνι, οὗπερ ἀμφότεροι διήκουσαν· κἀντεῦθεν πλεύσαντες εἰς Ἦλιν Ἀγχιπύλῳ καὶ Μόσχῳ τοῖς ἀπὸ Φαίδωνος παρέβαλον. καὶ μέχρι μὲν τούτων, ὡς προείρηται ἐν τῷ περὶ Φαίδωνος, Ἠλιακοὶ προσηγορεύοντο· Ἐρετρικοὶ δʼ ἐκλήθησαν ἀπὸ τῆς πατρίδος τοῦ περὶ οὗ ὁ λόγος. Φαίνεται δὴ ὁ Μενέδημος σεμνὸς ἱκανῶς γενέσθαι· ὅθεν αὐτὸν Κράτης παρῳδῶν φησι· "Φλιάσιόν τʼ Ἀσκληπιάδην καὶ ταῦρον Ἐρέτρην." ὁ δὲ Τίμων οὕτως· "ὄγκον ἀναστήσας ὠφρυωμένος ἀφροσιβόμβαξ."
Asclepiades of Phlius having drawn him away, he came to live in Megara with Stilpo, whose pupils both became; and sailing thence to Elis, they joined Anchipylus and Moschus, the disciples of Phaedo. Up to their time, as was stated before in the chapter on Phaedo, they were called the Elians; but they were named Eretrians after the homeland of the man who is the subject of our discourse. Menedemus seems to have been quite imposing and dignified; whence Crates parodying him says: "And Asclepiades of Phlius, and the Eretrian bull." And Timon thus: "Rearing a haughty brow, a puffed-up babbler of absurdities."
οὕτω δʼ ἦν σεμνὸς ὡς Εὐρύλοχον τὸν Κασανδρέα μετὰ Κλεϊππίδου Κυζικηνοῦ μειρακίου κληθέντα ὑπʼ Ἀντιγόνου ἀντειπεῖν· φοβεῖσθαι γὰρ μὴ Μενέδημος αἴσθοιτο. ἦν γὰρ καὶ ἐπικόπτης καὶ παρρησιαστής. μειρακίου γοῦν καταθρασυνομένου εἶπε μὲν οὐδέν· λαβὼν δὲ κάρφος διέγραφεν εἰς τοὔδαφος περαινομένου σχῆμα· ἕως ὁρώντων πάντων συνὲν τὸ μειράκιον τὴν ὕβριν ἀπηλλάγη. Ἱεροκλέους δὲ τοῦ ἐπὶ τοῦ Πειραιῶς συνανακάμπτοντος αὐτῷ ἐν Ἀμφιαράου καὶ πολλὰ λέγοντος περὶ τῆς ἁλώσεως τῆς Ἐρετρίας, ἄλλο μὲν οὐδὲν εἶπεν, ἠρώτησε δὲ εἰς τί αὐτὸν Ἀντίγονος περαίνει2.
He was so dignified that Eurylochus of Cassandrea, when invited by Antigonus along with Cleippides, a youth of Cyzicus, declined, for he was afraid lest Menedemus should find out; for he was both caustic in reprimand and outspoken in speech. At any rate, when a youth grew insolent, he said nothing, but taking a twig began drawing on the ground the posture of one submitting to passive sodomy, until the youth, perceiving the insult while all were watching, slunk away. And when Hierocles, the commander at the Piraeus, was strolling back and forth with him in the sanctuary of Amphiaraus and talking at length about the capture of Eretria, he said nothing else, but asked for what purpose Antigonus used him.
Πρὸς δὲ τὸν θρασυνόμενον μοιχόν, ἀγνοεῖς, ἔφη, ὅτι οὐ μόνον κράμβη χυλὸν ἔχει χρηστόν, ἀλλὰ καὶ ῥαφανίς; πρὸς δὲ τὸν νεώτερον κεκραγότα, σκέψαι, ἔφη, μή τι ὄπισθεν ἔχων λέληθας. Ἀντιγόνου δὲ συμβουλευομένου εἰ ἐπὶ κῶμον ἀφίκοιτο, σιωπήσας τἄλλα μόνον ἐκέλευσεν ἀπαγγεῖλαι ὅτι βασιλέως υἱός ἐστι. πρὸς δὲ τὸν ἀναίσθητον ἀναφέροντά τι αὐτῷ εἰκαίως, ἠρώτησεν εἰ ἀγρὸν ἔχοι· φήσαντος δὲ καὶ πάμπλειστα κτήματα, πορεύου τοίνυν, ἔφη, κἀκείνων ἐπιμελοῦ, μὴ συμβῇ σοι καὶ ταῦτα καταφθεῖραι καὶ κομψὸν ἰδιώτην ἀποβαλεῖν. πρὸς δὲ τὸν πυθόμενον εἰ γήμαι ὁ σπουδαῖος, ἔφη, πότερον ἐγώ σοι σπουδαῖος δοκῶ ἢ οὔ; φήσαντος δʼ εἶναι, ἐγὼ τοίνυν, εἶπε, γεγάμηκα.
To an insolent adulterer he said, "Do you not know that not only cabbage has a good broth, but also radish?" And to a youth who was screaming loudly, he said, "See whether you have something lodged behind you without realizing it." When Antigonus consulted him as to whether he should go to a revel, he said nothing on the rest, but merely bade him report to him that he was the son of a king. To a foolish person who brought him an idle piece of news, he asked if he owned a farm; and when the man said he had very extensive estates, "Go then," he said, "and look after them, lest it happen that you ruin them and lose your status as a refined private citizen." To someone who asked whether the virtuous man should marry, he said, "Do I seem to you to be a virtuous man, or not?" And when the man said he was, "Well then," he said, "I am married."
πρὸς δὲ τὸν εἰπόντα πολλὰ τὰ ἀγαθὰ ἐπύθετο πόσα τὸν ἀριθμὸν καὶ εἰ νομίζοι πλείω τῶν ἑκατόν. μὴ δυνάμενος δὲ τῶν καλούντων ἐπὶ δεῖπνόν τινος περιελεῖν τὴν πολυτέλειαν, κληθείς ποτε οὐδὲν μὲν εἶπε· σιωπῶν δʼ αὐτὸν ἐνουθέτησε μόνας ἐλαίας προσενεγκάμενος. διὰ δὴ οὖν τὸ παρρησιαστικὸν τοῦτο μικροῦ καὶ ἐκινδύνευσεν ἐν Κύπρῳ παρὰ Νικοκρέοντι σὺν Ἀσκληπιάδῃ τῷ φίλῳ. τοῦ γάρ τοι βασιλέως ἐπιμήνιον ἑορτὴν τελοῦντος καὶ καλέσαντος καὶ τούτους ὥσπερ τοὺς ἄλλους φιλοσόφους, τὸν Μενέδημον εἰπεῖν ὡς εἰ καλὸν ἦν ἡ τῶν τοιούτων ἀνδρῶν συναγωγή, καθʼ ἑκάστην ἡμέραν ἔδει γίνεσθαι3 τὴν ἑορτήν· εἰ δʼ οὔ, περιττῶς καὶ νῦν.
To someone who said that the goods of life are many, he asked how many in number, and whether he thought they were more than a hundred. Being unable to curb the extravagance of one of those who invited him to dinner, on one occasion when invited he said nothing, but admonished him in silence by eating only olives. Because of this outspokenness he even ran a close risk of his life in Cyprus at the court of Nicocreon, together with his friend Asclepiades. For when the king was celebrating a monthly festival and had invited them as well as the other philosophers, Menedemus said that if the gathering of such men was a good thing, the festival ought to take place every day; but if not, it was superfluous even now.
- 2.17.125οὔτε σκηνὴν οὔτε ψήφισμα προσήκει τῷ σοφῷ γράφειν
The verb γράφειν is used in a zeugma (or double entendre), governing σκηνήν with the sense of "to paint" (scene-painting) and ψήφισμα with the sense of "to draft / write" (a legislative decree). This wordplay targets both the artisanal crafts practiced by Menedemus and his father and his subsequent political action.
- 2.17.127εἰς τί αὐτὸν Ἀντίγονος περαίνει
The verb περαίνω carries a double meaning: on the surface it means "to bring to an end / employ for a purpose", but colloquially it has the obscene sexual sense of penetrating someone sexually (active partner in sodomy). Echoing the preceding anecdote where Menedemus drew περαινομένου σχῆμα, the question simultaneously asks "for what purpose Antigonus employs him" and insidiously insinuates an act of passive sexual submission.
- 2.17.129τὸν Μενέδημον εἰπεῖν ὡς εἰ καλὸν ἦν... ἔδει γίνεσθαι
Following the genitive absolute τοῦ γάρ τοι βασιλέως... τελοῦντος, the accusative with infinitive (τὸν Μενέδημον εἰπεῖν) appears without an explicit governing finite verb of speaking (such as ἔφη or λέγεται). This reflects the well-attested Greek idiom of using the infinitive in continuous narrative reporting (oratio obliqua) to relate an anecdote from tradition.
