The Completeness of Virtue and Happiness in Suffering — Seneca the Younger, Moral Letters to Lucilius 92.19–92.26, Latin & English

§92.19

Invenitur, qui dicat¹ sapientem corpore parum prospero usum nec miserum esse nec beatum. Hic quoque fallitur, exaequat enim fortuita virtutibus et tantundem tribuit honestis quantum honestate carentibus. Quid autem foedius, quid indignius quam comparari veneranda contemptis? Veneranda enim sunt iustitia, pietas, fides, fortitudo, prudentia; e contrario vilia sunt, quae saepe contingunt pleniora vilissimis, crus solidum et lacertus et dentes et tororum sanitas firmitasque.

There is one who would say that a wise man who has experienced a not very prosperous body is neither miserable nor happy. This person also is mistaken, for he equates fortuitous things with virtues and attributes as much to honorable things as to those lacking honor. But what is more foul, what more unworthy than that things to be revered should be compared with things contemned? For things to be revered are justice, piety, faith, fortitude, prudence; on the contrary, those things are cheap which often happen more fully to the cheapest people: a sturdy leg, a strong arm, teeth, and the health and firmness of muscles.

§92.20

Deinde si sapiens, cui corpus molestum est, nec miser habebitur nec beatus, sed in medio relinquetur, vita quoque eius nec adpetenda erit nec fugienda. Quid autem tam absurdum quam sapientis vitam adpetendam non esse? Aut quid tam extra fidem quam esse aliquam vitam nec adpetendam nec fugiendam? Deinde si damna corporis miserum non faciunt, beatum esse patiuntur. Nam quibus potentia non est in peiorem transferendi statum, ne interpellandi quidem optimum.²

Then, if a wise man whose body is troublesome is considered neither miserable nor happy, but is left in the middle, his life also will be neither to be sought nor to be avoided. But what is so absurd as that a wise man’s life is not to be sought? Or what is so beyond belief as that there is some life neither to be sought nor to be avoided? Then if the losses of the body do not make one miserable, they allow him to be happy. For those which have no power of transferring one to a worse state, do not even have the power of interrupting the best state.

§92.21

" Frigidum," inquit, "aliquid et calidum novimus, inter utrumque tepidum est; sic aliquis beatus est, aliquis miser, aliquis nec beatus nec miser." Volo hanc contra nos positam imaginem excutere. Si tepido illi plus frigidi ingessero, fiet frigidum. Si plus calidi adfudero, fiet novissime calidum. At huic nec misero nec beato quantumcumque ad miserias adiecero, miser non erit, quemadmodum dicitis; ergo imago ista dissimilis est.

”We know,” he says, “something cold and hot, and between both is the lukewarm; so someone is happy, someone is miserable, someone is neither happy nor miserable.” I wish to shatter this image placed against us. If I pour more of cold into that lukewarm thing, it will become cold. If I pour more of hot, it will eventually become hot. But to this person who is neither miserable nor happy, no matter how much I add to his miseries, he will not be miserable, as you say; therefore, that image is unlike.

§92.22

Deinde trado tibi hominem nec miserum nec beatum. Huic adicio caecitatem; non fit miser. Adicio debilitatem; non fit miser. Adicio dolores continuos et graves; miser non fit. Quem tam multa mala in miseram vitam non transferunt, ne ex beata quidem educunt.

Next, I present to you a man neither miserable nor happy. To this man I add blindness; he does not become miserable. I add weakness; he does not become miserable. I add continuous and severe pains; he does not become miserable. That which so many evils do not transfer into a miserable life, does not even lead him out of a happy life.

§92.23

Si non potest, ut dicitis, sapiens ex beato in miserum decidere, non potest in non beatum. Quare enim qui labi coepit, alicubi subsistat? Quae res illum non patitur ad imum devolvi, retinet in summo. Quidni non possit³ beata vita rescindi? Ne remitti quidem potest, et ideo virtus ad illam per se ipsa satis est.

If, as you say, a wise man cannot fall from happy to miserable, he cannot fall into not-happy. For why should he who has begun to slip halt anywhere? That which does not allow him to be rolled down to the bottom, keeps him at the top. Why indeed can a happy life not be cut off? It cannot even be diminished, and therefore virtue is sufficient of itself for it.

§92.24

" Quid ergo? "inquit, "sapiens non est beatior, qui diutius vixit, quem nullus avocavit dolor, quam ille, qui cum mala fortuna semper luctatus est?" Responde mihi: numquid et melior est et honestior? Si haec non sunt, ne beatior quidem est. Rectius vivat oportet, ut beatius vivat; si rectius non potest, ne beatius quidem. Non intenditur virtus,⁴ ergo ne beata quidem vita, quae ex virtute est. Virtus enim tantum bonum est, ut istas accessiones minutas non sentiat, brevitatem aevi et dolorem et corporum varias offensiones. Nam voluptas non est digna, ad quam respiciat.

”What then?” he says, “is a wise man not happier who has lived longer, whom no pain has called away, than he who has always struggled with bad fortune?” Answer me: is he also better and more honorable? If these are not so, he is not even happier. He must live more rightly that he may live more happily; if he cannot live more rightly, neither can he live more happily. Virtue is not stretched, therefore neither is the happy life, which is from virtue. For virtue is so great a good that it does not feel those tiny additions, shortness of life, pain, and various troubles of the body. For pleasure is not worthy of being looked back upon by it.

§92.25

Quid est in virtute praecipuum? Futuro non indigere nec dies suos computare; in quantulo libet tempore bona aeterna consummat. Incredibilia nobis haec videntur et supra humanam naturam excurrentia. Maiestatem enim eius ex nostra inbecillitate metimur et vitiis nostris nomen virtutis inponimus. Quid porro? Non aeque incredibile videtur aliquem in summis cruciatibus positum dicere "beatus sum"? Atqui haec vox in ipsa officina voluptatis audita est. "Beatissimum," inquit, "hunc et hunc diem ago" Epicurus, cum illum hinc urinae difficultas torqueret, hinc insanabilis exulcerati dolor ventris.

What is chief in virtue? Not to stand in need of the future and not to calculate one’s days; in however small a time, it fulfills eternal goods. These things seem incredible to us and running beyond human nature. For we measure its majesty from our own weakness, and we impose the name of virtue upon our vices. What further? Does it not seem equally incredible that someone placed in the greatest tortures should say “I am happy”? And yet this voice was heard in the very workshop of pleasure. “I am passing this and that most happy day,” says Epicurus, when on one side difficulty of urine tortured him, on the other the incurable pain of an ulcerated belly.

§92.26

Quare ergo incredibilia ista sint aput eos, qui virtutem colunt, quom aput eos quoque reperiantur, aput quos voluptas imperavit? Hi quoque degeneres et humillimae mentis aiunt in summis doloribus, in summis calamitatibus sapientem nec miserum futurum nec beatum. Atqui hoc quoque incredibile est, immo incredibilius. Non video enim, quomodo non in infimum agatur e fastigio suo deiecta virtus. Aut beatum praestare debet, aut si ab hoc depulsa est, non prohibebit fieri miserum. Stans non potest mitti; aut vincatur oportet aut vincat.

Why then should those things be incredible among those who cultivate virtue, when they are found also among those with whom pleasure ruled? These people too, degenerate and of the lowest mind, say that in the greatest pains, in the greatest calamities, the wise man will be neither miserable nor happy. And yet this too is incredible, indeed more incredible. For I do not see how virtue, cast down from its peak, is not driven into the lowest depth. Either it must guarantee happiness, or if it is driven from this, it will not prevent one from becoming miserable. Standing, it cannot be let go; it must either be conquered or conquer.

Syntax notes4 items

92.19Invenitur, qui dicat
qui dicat is a relative clause of characteristic with the subjunctive present dicat. Following the impersonal passive invenitur ("there is found"), it describes the kind of person who would say this: "there is someone of such a character as to say."
92.20quibus potentia non est in peiorem transferendi statum, ne interpellandi quidem optimum
A highly condensed structure with ellipsis of the main verb and potentia in the second clause. quibus is a dative of possession. The second half is understood as ne [eis quidem potentia est] interpellandi optimum [statum]. The gerund transferendi takes statum as its object, while interpellandi takes the substantival neuter optimum ("the best state") as its object.
92.23Quidni non possit
The interrogative adverb quidni ("why not?") normally expresses a strong affirmative rhetorical question ("of course..."). Here, combined with the negation non, it forms a double negative indicating a strong, certain assertion: "Why indeed should it not be impossible for a happy life to be cut off?" (i.e., it is absolutely impossible).
92.24Non intenditur virtus
intendere means "to stretch, tension, or intensify." Here, the passive intenditur is used to reflect the Stoic doctrine that virtue does not admit of degrees or intensification (once established, it cannot be strained any further). Consequently, intenditur is also elided in the following clause ne beata quidem vita.

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