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Moral Letters to Lucilius

§87.10-87.17

Cato's Simplicity and Syllogisms on Virtue as the Sole Good

Seneca praises Cato's simple travel style, explaining the original meaning of "impediments" (baggage), and then presents Stoic syllogisms on how only virtue is good, responding to Peripatetic counterarguments.

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§87.10

​O quantum erat saeculi decus, imperatorem triumphalem, censorium, quod super omnia haec est, Catonem uno caballo esse contentum1 et ne toto quidem! Partem enim sarcinae ab utroque latere dependentes occupabant. Ita non omnibus obesis mannis et asturconibus et tolutariis praeferres unicum illum equum ab ipso Catone defrictum?

​Oh, what a glory of the age it was, that Cato, a triumphal commander, a censor—and what is above all these things—was content with a single nag, and not even the whole of it! For baggage hanging down on both sides occupied a part of it. Would you not, then, prefer that single horse, rubbed down by Cato himself, to all those fat ponies, Asturians, and trotters?

§87.11

​Video non futurum finem in ista materia ullum, nisi quem ipse mihi fecero. Hic itaque conticescam, quantum ad ista, quae sine dubio talia divinavit futura, qualia nunc sunt, qui primus appellavit "inpedimenta." Nunc volo paucissimas adhuc interrogationes nostrorum tibi reddere ad virtutem pertinentes, quam satisfacere vitae beatae contendimus.2

​I see that there will be no end to this matter, except that which I shall make for myself. Here, therefore, I shall keep silent regarding those things which he who first called them “impediments” undoubtedly foresaw would be in the future just as they are now. Now I want to deliver to you a very few more of our school’s questions pertaining to virtue, which we contend is sufficient for a happy life.

§87.12

"Quod bonum est, bonos facit. Nam et in arte musica quod bonum est, facit musicum. Fortuita bonum non faciunt. Ergo non sunt bona." Adversus hoc sic respondent Peripatetici, ut quod primum proponimus, falsum esse dicant. "Ab eo," inquiunt, "quod est bonum, non utique fiunt boni. In musica est aliquid bonum tamquam tibia aut chorda aut organum aliquod aptatum ad usus canendi. Nihil tamen horum facit musicum."

”What is good makes people good. For even in the art of music, what is good makes a musician. Fortuitous things do not make a person good. Therefore, they are not goods.” To this the Peripatetics reply in such a way as to say that our first premise is false. “From that which is good,” they say, “men do not by all means become good. In music there is something good, such as a flute, or a string, or some instrument adapted for the use of singing. Yet none of these makes a musician.”

§87.13

​Hic respondebimus: "Non intellegitis, quomodo posuerimus quod bonum est in musica. Non enim id dicimus, quod instruit musicum, sed quod facit; tu ad supellectilem artis, non ad artem venis. Si quid autem in ipsa arte musica bonum est, id utique musicum faciet."

​Here we shall reply: “You do not understand how we have placed what is good in music. For we do not mean that which equips the musician, but that which makes him; you are coming to the equipment of the art, not to the art itself. But if there is any good in the art of music itself, that will by all means make a musician.”

§87.14

​Etiamnunc facere istuc planius volo. Bonum in arte musica duobus modis dicitur, alterum, quo effectus musici adiuvatur, alterum, quo ars. Ad effectum pertinent instrumenta, tibiae et organa et chordae, ad artem ipsam non pertinent. Est enim artifex etiam sine istis; uti forsitan non potest arte. Hoc non est aeque duplex in homine; idem enim est bonum et hominis et vitae.

​Even now I want to make this point clearer. Good in the art of music is spoken of in two ways: one by which the effect of the music is aided, the other by which the art itself is aided. To the effect belong the instruments, flutes and organs and strings; they do not belong to the art itself. For the artist exists even without them; he perhaps cannot use his art. This is not equally twofold in man; for the good of man and of life is the same.

§87.15

"Quod contemptissimo cuique contingere ac turpissimo potest, bonum non est. Opes autem et lenoni et lanistae contingunt. Ergo non sunt bona." "Falsum est," inquiunt, "quod proponitis. Nam et in grammatice et in arte medendi aut gubernandi videmus bona humillimis quibusque contingere."

”What can fall to the lot of any most contemptible and most shameful person is not a good. But riches fall to the lot of both a panderer and a gladiator-trainer. Therefore, they are not goods.” “It is false,” they say, “what you propose. For both in grammar and in the art of healing or of steering, we see that goods fall to the lot of any of the humblest persons.”

§87.16

​Sed istae artes non sunt magnitudinem animi professae, non consurgunt in altum nec fortuita fastidiunt. Virtus extollit hominem et super cara mortalibus conlocat; nec ea, quae bona, nec ea, quae mala vocantur, aut cupit nimis aut expavescit. Chelidon, unus ex Cleopatrae mollibus, patrimonium grande possedit. Nuper Natalis tam inprobae linguae quam inpurae, in cuius ore feminae purgabantur, et multorum heres fuit et multos habuit heredes. Quid ergo? Utrum illum pecunia inpurum effecit an ipse pecuniam inspurcavit? Quae sic in quosdam homines3 quomodo denarius in cloacam cadit.

​But those arts do not profess greatness of soul, they do not rise to the heights nor despise fortuitous things. Virtue exalts man and places him above those things dear to mortals; it neither desires too much nor dreads those things which are called goods or evils. Chelidon, one of Cleopatra’s effeminates, possessed a grand patrimony. Recently, Natalis, a man with a tongue as wicked as it was impure—in whose mouth women were purified—was both heir to many and had many heirs. What then? Did money make him impure, or did he defile the money? Riches fall into certain men just as a denarius falls into a sewer.

§87.17

​Virtus super ista consistit. Suo aere censetur. Nihil ex istis quolibet incurrentibus bonum iudicat. Medicina et gubernatio non interficit sibi ac suis admiratione talium rerum Qui non est vir bonus, potest nihilominus medicus esse, potest gubernator, potest grammaticus tam mehercules quam cocus. Cui contingit habere rem non quamlibet, hunc non quemlibet dixeris; qualia quisque habet, talis est.

​Virtue stands above those things. It is valued by its own currency. It judges none of those things that run in from any direction to be a good. Medicine and steering do not destroy themselves and their own by the admiration of such things. He who is not a good man can nevertheless be a physician, can be a pilot, can be a grammarian, just as much, by Hercules, as a cook. You would not call him an ordinary man who happens to have no ordinary thing; as each one has what kind of things, such is he.

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 87.10Catonem uno caballo esse contentum

    An accusative-with-infinitve clause consisting of the subject accusative Catonem and the infinitive esse contentum. It functions as an appositive or explanatory clause to the exclamation O quantum erat saeculi decus ("What a glory of the age it was that...").

  2. 87.11quam satisfacere vitae beatae contendimus

    The relative pronoun quam refers to the antecedent virtutem. In the accusative-with-infinitive construction governed by contendimus ([virtutem] satisfacere vitae beatae), quam functions as the subject accusative of the infinitive satisfacere.

  3. 87.16Quae sic in quosdam homines

    Quae is a relative pronoun at the beginning of a sentence (relative connection, feminine singular nominative), referring to the wealth (pecunia or bona) mentioned in the preceding sentences. Based on the comparison in the latter half (quomodo denarius in cloacam cadit), the main verb of this clause (such as cadunt "fall") is omitted.

Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-25) · Revision history (1, latest 2026-09-21)
  • 2026-09-21 AI review — note 1
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