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Moral Letters to Lucilius

§83.1-83.10

Daily Self-Examination and the Syllogism on Drunkenness

Seneca reports his daily activities in detail to emphasize the importance of self-examination, and then begins to examine the simplistic and sophistical arguments of the philosophers, specifically Zeno's syllogism on drunkenness.

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§83.1

​Singulos dies tibi meos et quidem totos indicari iubes; bene de me iudicas, si nihil esse in illis putas, quod abscondam. Sic certe vivendum est, tamquam in conspectu vivamus; sic cogitandum, tamquam aliquis in pectus intimum introspicere possit; et potest. Quid enim prodest ab homine aliquid esse secretum? Nihil deo clusum est. Interest animis nostris1 et cogitationibus mediis intervenit—sic intervenit, dico, tamquam aliquando discedat.

​You command me to report to you my individual days, and indeed in their entirety; you judge well of me, if you think there is nothing in them for me to hide. Surely we ought to live in such a way, as if we were living in the sight of all; we ought to think in such a way, as if someone could look into our inmost breast; and he can. For what does it profit that something is secret from man? Nothing is closed to God. He is present in our minds and enters into the midst of our thoughts—enters, I say, not as if He ever departs.

§83.2

​Faciam ergo, quod iubes, et quid agam et quo ordine, libenter tibi scribam. Observabo me protinus et, quod est utilissimum, diem meum recognoscam. Hoc nos pessimos facit, quod nemo vitam suam respicit. Quid facturi simus cogitamus. Atqui consilium futuri ex praeterito venit.

​Therefore I will do what you command, and I will gladly write to you what I am doing and in what order. I will observe myself immediately and, what is most useful, review my day. This makes us worst of all, that no one looks back upon his own life. We think about what we are going to do. And yet, plans for the future come from the past.

§83.3

​Hodiernus dies solidus est; nemo ex illo quicquam mihi eripuit. Totus inter stratum lectionemque divisus est. Minimum exercitationi corporis datum, et hoc nomine ago gratias senectuti: non magno mihi constat; cum me movi, lassus sum. Hic autem est exercitationis etiam fortissimis finis.

​Today’s day is solid; no one has snatched anything from me out of it. It has been divided entirely between my couch and reading. Very little has been given to bodily exercise, and on this account I give thanks to old age: it does not cost me much; as soon as I move, I am tired. But this is the limit of exercise even for the strongest.

§83.4

​Progymnastas meos quaeris? Unus mihi sufficit Pharius puer, ut scis, amabilis, sed mutabitur. Iam aliquem teneriorem quaero. Hic quidem ait nos eandem crisin habere, quia utrique dentes cadunt. Sed iam vix illum adsequor currentem et intra paucissimos dies non potero; vide, quid exercitatio cotidiana proficiat. Cito magnum intervallum fit inter duos in diversum euntes. Eodem tempore ille adscendit, ego descendo, nec ignoras, quanto ex his velocius alterum fiat. Mentitus sum; iam enim aetas nostra non descendit, sed cadit.

​Do you ask who my trainers are? One is enough for me, the boy Pharius, lovable, as you know, but he will be changed. I am already looking for someone younger. He, indeed, says that we have the same crisis, because teeth are falling out for both of us. But now I can scarcely catch him as he runs, and within a very few days I will not be able to; see what daily exercise accomplishes. Quickly a great interval is made between two going in opposite directions. At the same time he ascends, I descend, and you are not ignorant of how much faster the latter of these happens. I have lied; for now our age does not descend, but falls.

§83.5

​Quomodo tamen hodiernum certamen nobis cesserit quaeris? Quod raro cursoribus evenit, hieran fecimus. Ab hac fatigatione magis quam exercitatione in frigidam descendi; hoc apud me vocatur parum calda. Ille tantus psychrolutes, qui kalendis Ianuariis euripum salutabam, qui anno novo quemadmodum legere, scribere, dicere aliquid, sic auspicabar in Virginem desilire, primum ad Tiberim transtuli castra, deinde ad hoc solium, quod, cum fortissimus sum et omnia bona fide fiunt, sol temperat. Non multum mihi ad balneum superest.

​However, do you ask how today’s contest turned out for us? What rarely happens to runners, we made a tie. After this fatigue rather than exercise, I went down into the cold bath; this is called “insufficiently warm” at my house. I, that great cold-bather, who on the Kalends of January used to greet the canal, who in the New Year, just as I would inaugurate reading, writing, and saying something, so used to leap down into the Aqua Virgo, have first transferred my camp to the Tiber, then to this bath-tub, which, even when I am at my bravest and everything is done in good faith, the sun warms. There is not much left for me to reach the warm bath.

§83.6

​Panis deinde siccus et sine mensa prandium, post quod non sunt lavandae manus. Dormio minimum. Consuetudinem meam nosti: brevissimo somno utor et quasi interiungo. Satis est mihi vigilare desisse. Aliquando dormisse me scio, aliquando suspicor.

​Then dry bread and a lunch without a table, after which hands do not need to be washed. I sleep very little. You know my custom: I take a very short sleep and, as it were, unyoke in the middle of the journey. It is enough for me to have ceased to be awake. Sometimes I know that I have slept, sometimes I suspect it.

§83.7

​Ecce circensium obstrepit clamor. Subita aliqua et universa voce feriuntur aures meae. Nec cogitationem meam excutiunt, ne interrumpunt quidem. Fremitum patientissime fero. Multae voces et in unum confusae pro fluctu mihi sunt aut vento silvam verberante et ceteris sine intellectu sonantibus.

​Behold, the roar of the games resounds. My ears are struck by some sudden and universal shout. Yet they do not shake my thought, nor do they even interrupt it. I bear the roar very patiently. Many voices confused into one are to me like a wave or the wind whipping a forest and other meaningless sounds.

§83.8

​Quid ergo est nunc, cui animum adiecerim? Dicam. Superest ex hesterno mihi cogitatio: quid sibi voluerint prudentissimi viri, qui rerum maximarum probationes levissimas et perplexas fecerunt, quae ut sint verae,2 tamen mendacio similes sunt.

​What is it, then, now to which I have applied my mind? I will tell you. A thought remains to me from yesterday: what did those most wise men mean, who made the proofs of the greatest things so trivial and intricate, which, even though they may be true, nevertheless resemble a lie.

§83.9

​Vult nos ab ebrietate deterrere Zenon, vir maximus, huius sectae fortissimae ac sanctissimae conditor. Audi ergo, quemadmodum colligat virum bonum non futurum ebrium: "ebrio secretum sermonem nemo committit; viro autem bono committit; ergo vir bonus ebrius non erit." Quemadmodum opposita interrogatione simili derideatur, adtende. Satis est enim unam ponere ex multis: "dormienti nemo secretum sermonem committit; viro autem bono committit; vir bonus ergo non dormit."

​Zeno, that greatest of men, the founder of this most brave and holy sect, wishes to deter us from drunkenness. Hear, therefore, how he concludes that a good man will not be drunk: “To a drunkard no one commits a secret conversation; but to a good man one commits it; therefore, a good man will not be drunk.” Attend to how he is mocked by a similar opposed question. For it is enough to put forward one out of many: “To a sleeping man no one commits a secret conversation; but to a good man one commits it; therefore, a good man does not sleep.”

§83.10

​Quo uno modo potest, Posidonius Zenonis nostri causam agit, sed ne sic quidem, ut existimo, agi potest. Ait enim ebrium duobus modis dici: altero, cum aliquis vino gravis est et inpos sui; altero, si solet ebrius fieri et huic obnoxius vitio est. Hunc a Zenone dici,3 qui soleat fieri ebrius, non qui sit.

​In the only way possible, Posidonius pleads the cause of our Zeno, but not even in this way, as I think, can it be pleaded. For he says that a drunkard is spoken of in two ways: in one way, when someone is heavy with wine and not master of himself; in the other way, if he is accustomed to get drunk and is subject to this vice. That the latter, who is accustomed to get drunk, is meant by Zeno, not the former, who is actually drunk.

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 83.1Interest animis nostris

    Third-person singular present of the verb intersum (to be present, to intervene), taking the dative animis nostris. It should not be confused with the impersonal verb interest (it concerns, it is of importance).

  2. 83.8quae ut sint verae

    The relative pronoun quae refers back to probationes in the preceding clause. ut with the subjunctive sint expresses concession ("even though they are..."), corresponding with tamen ("nevertheless") in the main clause.

  3. 83.10Hunc a Zenone dici

    An accusative with infinitive (A.C.I.) construction dependent on the preceding Ait ("He says..."). Hunc (this man, i.e., the habitual drunkard) is the subject accusative, and dici is the present passive infinitive.

Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-25) · Revision history (1, latest 2026-09-22)
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