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- Platonis Opera, Tomus I: Tetralogia I-II. Burnet, John, 1863-1928, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-10-27
Euclides tells Terpsion of meeting the gravely ill Theaetetus and recalls Socrates' prophetic admiration for his nature. To read the dialogue Euclides recorded, they have a slave boy read aloud the conversation between Socrates, Theodorus, and Theaetetus.
ΕΥ. ἄρτι, ὦ Τερψίων, ἢ πάλαι ἐξ ἀγροῦ; ΤΕΡ. ἐπιεικῶς πάλαι. καὶ σέ γε ἐζήτουν κατʼ ἀγορὰν καὶ ἐθαύμαζον ὅτι οὐχ οἷός τʼ ἦ εὑρεῖν. ΕΥ. οὐ γὰρ ἦ κατὰ πόλιν. ΤΕΡ. ποῦ μήν; ΕΥ. εἰς λιμένα καταβαίνων Θεαιτήτῳ ἐνέτυχον φερομένῳ ἐκ Κορίνθου ἀπὸ τοῦ στρατοπέδου Ἀθήναζε. ΤΕΡ. ζῶντι ἢ τετελευτηκότι; ΕΥ. ζῶντι καὶ μάλα μόλις· χαλεπῶς μὲν γὰρ ἔχει καὶ ὑπὸ τραυμάτων τινῶν, μᾶλλον μὴν αὐτὸν αἱρεῖ τὸ γεγονὸς νόσημα ἐν τῷ στρατεύματι. ΤΕΡ. μῶν ἡ δυσεντερία; ΕΥ. ναί. ΤΕΡ. οἷον ἄνδρα λέγεις ἐν κινδύνῳ εἶναι. ΕΥ. καλόν τε καὶ ἀγαθόν, ὦ Τερψίων, ἐπεί τοι καὶ νῦν ἤκουόν τινων μάλα ἐγκωμιαζόντων αὐτὸν περὶ τὴν μάχην. ΤΕΡ. καὶ οὐδέν γʼ ἄτοπον, ἀλλὰ πολὺ θαυμαστότερον εἰ μὴ τοιοῦτος ἦν. ἀτὰρ πῶς οὐκ αὐτοῦ Μεγαροῖ κατέλυεν; ΕΥ. ἠπείγετο οἴκαδε· ἐπεὶ ἔγωγʼ ἐδεόμην καὶ συνεβούλευον, ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἤθελεν. καὶ δῆτα προπέμψας αὐτόν, ἀπιὼν πάλιν ἀνεμνήσθην καὶ ἐθαύμασα Σωκράτους ὡς μαντικῶς1 ἄλλα τε δὴ εἶπε καὶ περὶ τούτου. δοκεῖ γάρ μοι ὀλίγον πρὸ τοῦ θανάτου ἐντυχεῖν αὐτῷ μειρακίῳ ὄντι, καὶ συγγενόμενός τε καὶ διαλεχθεὶς πάνυ ἀγασθῆναι αὐτοῦ τὴν φύσιν. καί μοι ἐλθόντι Ἀθήναζε τούς τε λόγους οὓς διελέχθη αὐτῷ διηγήσατο καὶ μάλα ἀξίους ἀκοῆς, εἶπέ τε ὅτι πᾶσα ἀνάγκη εἴη τοῦτον ἐλλόγιμον γενέσθαι, εἴπερ εἰς ἡλικίαν ἔλθοι. ΤΕΡ. καὶ ἀληθῆ γε, ὡς ἔοικεν, εἶπεν. ἀτὰρ τίνες ἦσαν οἱ λόγοι; ἔχοις ἂν διηγήσασθαι;
EUCLIDES: Terpsion, have you just arrived from the country, or some time ago? TERPSION: Quite some time ago. And I was looking for you in the marketplace, and wondering why I could not find you. EUCLIDES: For I was not in town. TERPSION: Where then? EUCLIDES: Going down to the harbor, I met Theaetetus being carried to Athens from the army camp at Corinth. TERPSION: Alive or dead? EUCLIDES: Alive, but only just. For he is in a bad way from some wounds, but still more he is gripped by the disease that broke out in the army. TERPSION: Was it dysentery? EUCLIDES: Yes. TERPSION: What a man you say is in danger! EUCLIDES: A noble and good man indeed, Terpsion; why, just now I heard some people highly praising his conduct in the battle. TERPSION: And no wonder; indeed, it would have been far more surprising if he had not been such. But how is it he did not stop here in Megara? EUCLIDES: He was in a hurry to get home. Though I begged and advised him to stay, he would not. And so, after seeing him on his way, as I was returning, I remembered and was amazed at how prophetically Socrates spoke on other matters and especially about him. For it seems to me that Socrates met him shortly before his own death, when Theaetetus was a mere youth, and having associated and conversed with him, he was filled with admiration for his nature. And when I went to Athens, he related to me the conversations he had had with him, which were indeed well worth hearing, and he said that this youth would inevitably become famous if he should live to maturity. TERPSION: And he spoke truly, as it seems. But what were those conversations? Could you relate them?
ΕΥ. οὐ μὰ τὸν Δία, οὔκουν οὕτω γε ἀπὸ στόματος· ἀλλʼ ἐγραψάμην μὲν τότʼ εὐθὺς οἴκαδʼ ἐλθὼν ὑπομνήματα, ὕστερον δὲ κατὰ σχολὴν ἀναμιμνῃσκόμενος ἔγραφον, καὶ ὁσάκις Ἀθήναζε ἀφικοίμην, ἐπανηρώτων τὸν Σωκράτη ὃ μὴ ἐμεμνήμην, καὶ δεῦρο ἐλθὼν ἐπηνορθούμην· ὥστε μοι σχεδόν τι πᾶς ὁ λόγος γέγραπται. ΤΕΡ. ἀληθῆ· ἤκουσά σου καὶ πρότερον, καὶ μέντοι ἀεὶ μέλλων κελεύσειν ἐπιδεῖξαι διατέτριφα δεῦρο. ἀλλὰ τί κωλύει νῦν ἡμᾶς διελθεῖν; πάντως ἔγωγε καὶ ἀναπαύσασθαι δέομαι ὡς ἐξ ἀγροῦ ἥκων. ΕΥ. ἀλλὰ μὲν δὴ καὶ αὐτὸς μέχρι Ἐρινοῦ Θεαίτητον προύπεμψα, ὥστε οὐκ ἂν ἀηδῶς ἀναπαυοίμην. ἀλλʼ ἴωμεν, καὶ ἡμῖν ἅμα ἀναπαυομένοις ὁ παῖς ἀναγνώσεται. ΤΕΡ. ὀρθῶς λέγεις. ΕΥ. τὸ μὲν δὴ βιβλίον, ὦ Τερψίων, τουτί· ἐγραψάμην δὲ δὴ οὑτωσὶ τὸν λόγον, οὐκ ἐμοὶ Σωκράτη διηγούμενον2 ὡς διηγεῖτο, ἀλλὰ διαλεγόμενον οἷς ἔφη διαλεχθῆναι. ἔφη δὲ τῷ τε γεωμέτρῃ Θεοδώρῳ καὶ τῷ Θεαιτήτῳ. ἵνα οὖν ἐν τῇ γραφῇ μὴ παρέχοιεν πράγματα αἱ μεταξὺ τῶν λόγων διηγήσεις περὶ αὑτοῦ τε ὁπότε λέγοι ὁ Σωκράτης, οἷον καὶ ἐγὼ ἔφην ἢ καὶ ἐγὼ εἶπον, ἢ αὖ περὶ τοῦ ἀποκρινομένου ὅτι συνέφη ἢ οὐχ ὡμολόγει, τούτων ἕνεκα ὡς αὐτὸν αὐτοῖς διαλεγόμενον ἔγραψα, ἐξελὼν τὰ τοιαῦτα. ΤΕΡ. καὶ οὐδέν γε ἀπὸ τρόπου, ὦ Εὐκλείδη. ΕΥ. ἀλλά, παῖ, λαβὲ τὸ βιβλίον καὶ λέγε. ΣΩ. εἰ μὲν τῶν ἐν Κυρήνῃ μᾶλλον ἐκηδόμην, ὦ Θεόδωρε, τὰ ἐκεῖ ἄν σε καὶ περὶ ἐκείνων ἀνηρώτων, εἴ τινες αὐτόθι περὶ γεωμετρίαν ἤ τινα ἄλλην φιλοσοφίαν εἰσὶ τῶν νέων ἐπιμέλειαν ποιούμενοι· νῦν δὲ ἧττον γὰρ3 ἐκείνους ἢ τούσδε φιλῶ, καὶ μᾶλλον ἐπιθυμῶ εἰδέναι τίνες ἡμῖν τῶν νέων ἐπίδοξοι γενέσθαι ἐπιεικεῖς. ταῦτα δὴ αὐτός τε σκοπῶ καθʼ ὅσον δύναμαι, καὶ τοὺς ἄλλους ἐρωτῶ οἷς ἂν ὁρῶ τοὺς νέους ἐθέλοντας συγγίγνεσθαι. σοὶ δὴ οὐκ ὀλίγιστοι πλησιάζουσι, καὶ δικαίως· ἄξιος γὰρ τά τε ἄλλα καὶ γεωμετρίας ἕνεκα. εἰ δὴ οὖν τινι ἐνέτυχες ἀξίῳ λόγου, ἡδέως ἂν πυθοίμην.
EUCLIDES: No, by Zeus, certainly not just from memory; but as soon as I got home at that time, I wrote down some notes, and later, at my leisure, I wrote them out as I recalled them, and as often as I went to Athens, I would ask Socrates about whatever I did not remember, and then, returning here, I corrected it; so that practically the whole conversation has been written down by me. TERPSION: True. I heard you say so before, and indeed, though I have always been intending to ask you to show it to me, I have delayed until now. But what prevents us from going through it now? In any case, I need to rest, since I have just come from the country. EUCLIDES: Indeed, I too accompanied Theaetetus as far as Erineum, so I should not be at all sorry to rest. Let us go, then, and while we are resting, the slave boy shall read to us. TERPSION: You are right. EUCLIDES: Well, Terpsion, here is the book. And I wrote down the conversation in this way: not as Socrates relating it to me, as he in fact did, but as conversing with those whom he said he conversed with. And he said he conversed with Theodorus the geometer and with Theaetetus. Now, in order that the narrative explanations between the speeches might not cause trouble in the written text, whenever Socrates spoke of himself, such as “And I said,” or “And I remarked,” or again, concerning the person answering, such as “He agreed,” or “He did not admit it,” for these reasons I wrote it as though Socrates were conversing directly with them, leaving out all such phrases. TERPSION: And that is not at all out of place, Euclides. EUCLIDES: Come then, boy, take the book and read. SOCRATES: If I cared more for the people of Cyrene, Theodorus, I should ask you about affairs there and about their young men, whether there are any there who are paying attention to geometry or any other branch of philosophy. But as it is, I love these youths here more than those, and I am more eager to know which of our own young men are likely to turn out well. I myself look out for this as much as I can, and I ask others whom I see the young men like to associate with. Now, not a few come to you, and rightly so; for you deserve it, both for your other qualities and especially for your geometry. If, then, you have met with any young man worth mentioning, I should be glad to hear of him.
- 142cἐθαύμασα Σωκράτους ὡς μαντικῶς
The verb of admiring, ἐθαύμασα, takes a genitive of the object admired (Σωκράτους). This structure can be understood as prolepsis, where the subject of the following ὡς-clause is anticipated in the genitive within the main clause, emphasizing Euclides' direct admiration of Socrates.
- 143bοὐκ ἐμοὶ Σωκράτη διηγούμενον
The accusative noun Σωκράτη and its participles διηγούμενον and διαλεγόμενον function as a supplementary description of τὸν λόγον, analogous to an accusative-with-infinitive construction. It specifies the format of the written text: not as Socrates narrating to Euclides, but as Socrates conversing directly with his interlocutors.
- 143dνῦν δὲ ἧττον γὰρ
The conjunction γάρ after νῦν δέ ("but as it is") introduces the reason for the implicit negative statement of the preceding contrary-to-fact condition: since Socrates does not care as much for Cyrene, he asks instead about the Athenian youth. This is an instance of explanatory γάρ nested inside the main assertion.
