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§9.11.98-9.11.102

Refutation of Cause, Motion, and Values, and Dogmatist Critiques

The Pyrrhonist arguments refuting cause, motion, learning, generation, and natural good and evil are expounded, followed by a note on Pyrrhonist writings and the Dogmatists' counter-accusation of dogmatism.

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καὶ τὸ αἴτιον οὖν ἐπινοοῖτʼ ἂν μόνον, ἐπεὶ εἴπερ ἐστὶν αἴτιον, ὀφείλει ἔχειν τὸ οὗ λέγεται αἴτιον, ἐπεὶ οὐκ ἔσται αἴτιον. καὶ ὥσπερ ὁ πατήρ, μὴ παρόντος τοῦ πρὸς ὃ λέγεται πατήρ, οὐκ ἂν εἴη πατήρ, οὑτωσὶ καὶ τὸ αἴτιον· οὐ πάρεστι δὲ πρὸς ὃ νοεῖται τὸ αἴτιον· οὔτε γὰρ γένεσις οὔτε φθορὰ οὔτʼ ἄλλο τι· οὐκ ἄρʼ ἐστὶν αἴτιον. καὶ μὴν εἰ ἔστιν αἴτιον, ἤτοι σῶμα σώματός ἐστιν αἴτιον ἢ ἀσώματον ἀσωμάτου· οὐδὲν δὲ τούτων· οὐκ ἄρʼ ἐστὶν αἴτιον. σῶμα μὲν οὖν σώματος οὐκ ἂν εἴη αἴτιον, ἐπείπερ ἀμφότερα τὴν αὐτὴν ἔχει φύσιν. καὶ εἰ τὸ ἕτερον αἴτιον λέγεται παρʼ ὅσον ἐστὶ σῶμα, καὶ τὸ λοιπόν, σῶμα ὄν, αἴτιον γενήσεται.

​Therefore the cause as well would only be conceived in thought; since, if indeed it is a cause, it ought to have that of which it is said to be the cause, since [otherwise] it will not be a cause. And just as a father, if that in relation to which he is called a father is not present, would not be a father, so too is the cause; but that in relation to which the cause is conceived is not present, for neither is there generation nor destruction nor anything else; therefore there is no cause. Furthermore, if there is a cause, either a body is the cause of a body, or an incorporeal of an incorporeal; but it is neither of these; therefore there is no cause. A body, then, could not be the cause of a body, since both have the same nature; and if the one is called a cause in so far as it is a body, the remaining one too, being a body, will become a cause.

κοινῶς δʼ ἀμφοτέρων αἰτίων ὄντων, οὐδὲν ἔσται τὸ πάσχον. ἀσώματον δʼ ἀσωμάτου οὐκ ἂν εἴη αἴτιον διὰ τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον· ἀσώματον δὲ σώματος οὐκ ἔστιν αἴτιον, ἐπεὶ οὐδὲν ἀσώματον ποιεῖ σῶμα. σῶμα δʼ ἀσωμάτου οὐκ ἂν εἴη αἴτιον, ὅτι τὸ γενόμενον τῆς πασχούσης ὕλης ὀφείλει εἶναι1· μηδὲν δὲ πάσχον διὰ τὸ ἀσώματον εἶναι οὐδʼ ἂν ὑπό τινος γένοιτο· οὐκ ἔστι τοίνυν αἴτιον. ᾧ συνεισάγεται τὸ ἀνυποστάτους εἶναι τὰς τῶν ὅλων ἀρχάς· δεῖ γὰρ εἶναί τι τὸ ποιοῦν καὶ δρῶν. Ἀλλὰ μὴν οὐδὲ κίνησίς ἐστι· τὸ γὰρ κινούμενον ἤτοι ἐν ᾧ ἐστι τόπῳ κινεῖται ἢ ἐν ᾧ μὴ ἔστιν· καὶ ἐν ᾧ μέν ἐστι τόπῳ οὐ κινεῖται, ἐν ᾧ δʼ οὐκ ἔστιν οὐδὲ κινεῖται· οὐκ ἔστιν οὖν κίνησις.

​And if both are causes in common, there will be nothing that is affected. Nor could an incorporeal be the cause of an incorporeal for the same reason; and an incorporeal is not the cause of a body, since nothing incorporeal produces a body; nor could a body be the cause of an incorporeal, because that which is generated ought to be of passive matter; but that which suffers nothing by virtue of being incorporeal could not even be generated by anything. There is, therefore, no cause. Along with this is co-introduced the thesis that the principles of all things are non-subsistent; for there must be something that produces and acts. Moreover, neither is there motion; for that which moves moves either in the place where it is, or in the place where it is not; and in the place where it is, it does not move, nor does it move in the place where it is not; therefore there is no motion.

Ἀνῄρουν δὲ καὶ μάθησιν. εἴπερ, φασί, διδάσκεταί τι, ἤτοι τὸ ὂν τῷ εἶναι διδάσκεται ἢ τὸ μὴ ὂν τῷ μὴ εἶναι2. οὔτε δὲ τὸ ὂν τῷ εἶναι διδάσκεται —ἡ γὰρ τῶν ὄντων φύσις πᾶσι φαίνεται καὶ γινώσκεται—οὔτε τὸ μὴ ὂν τῷ μὴ ὄντι· τῷ γὰρ μὴ ὄντι οὐδὲν συμβέβηκεν, ὥστʼ οὐδὲ τὸ διδάσκεσθαι. Οὐδὲ μὴν γένεσίς ἐστι, φασίν. οὔτε γὰρ τὸ ὂν γίνεται, ἔστι γάρ, οὔτε τὸ μὴ ὄν, οὐδὲ γὰρ ὑφέστηκε· τὸ δὲ μὴ ὑφεστὼς μηδʼ ὂν οὐδὲ τὸ γίνεσθαι εὐτύχηκε.

​They also used to abolish learning. If indeed, they say, anything is taught, either that which exists is taught by virtue of its being, or that which does not exist by virtue of its not being. But neither is that which exists taught by virtue of its being—for the nature of existing things appears and is known to all—nor is that which does not exist taught by virtue of its not being; for nothing belongs accidentally to that which does not exist, so that neither does being taught. Moreover, they say, neither is there generation. For neither does that which exists come to be, for it already is, nor that which does not exist, for it does not even subsist; and that which neither subsists nor exists has not even attained to coming to be.

Φύσει τε μὴ εἶναι ἀγαθὸν ἢ κακόν· εἰ γάρ τί ἐστι φύσει ἀγαθὸν καὶ κακόν, πᾶσιν ὀφείλει ἀγαθὸν ἢ κακὸν ὑπάρχειν, ὥσπερ ἡ χιὼν πᾶσι ψυχρόν· κοινὸν δʼ οὐδὲν πάντων ἀγαθὸν ἢ κακόν ἐστιν· οὐκ ἄρα ἐστὶ φύσει ἀγαθὸν ἢ κακόν. ἤτοι γὰρ πᾶν τὸ ὑπό τινος δοξαζόμενον ῥητέον ἀγαθὸν ἢ οὐ πᾶν· καὶ πᾶν μὲν οὐ ῥητέον, ἐπεὶ τὸ αὐτὸ ὑφʼ οὗ μὲν δοξάζεται ἀγαθόν, ὡς ἡ ἡδονὴ ὑπὸ Ἐπικούρου· ὑφʼ οὗ δὲ κακόν, ὑπʼ Ἀντισθένους. συμβήσεται τοίνυν τὸ αὐτὸ ἀγαθόν τʼ εἶναι καὶ κακόν. εἰ δʼ οὐ πᾶν λέγομεν τὸ ὑπό τινος δοξαζόμενον ἀγαθόν, δεήσει ἡμᾶς διακρίνειν τὰς δόξας· ὅπερ οὐκ ἐνδεχόμενόν ἐστι διὰ τὴν ἰσοσθένειαν τῶν λόγων. ἄγνωστον οὖν τὸ φύσει ἀγαθόν.

​And there is nothing naturally good or bad; for if anything is naturally good and bad, it ought to be good or bad for all, just as snow is cold to all; but there is nothing common to all that is good or bad; therefore there is nothing naturally good or bad. For either all that is opined by someone must be called good, or not all; and all must not be called good, since the same thing is opined to be good by one person, as pleasure by Epicurus, and bad by another, as by Antisthenes. It will follow, therefore, that the same thing is both good and bad. But if we say that not all that is opined by someone is good, it will be necessary for us to judge between the opinions; which is not possible on account of the equipollence of arguments. The naturally good, therefore, is unknown.

Ἔστι δὲ καὶ τὸν ὅλον τῆς συναγωγῆς αὐτῶν τρόπον συνιδεῖν ἐκ τῶν ἀπολειφθεισῶν συντάξεων. αὐτὸς μὲν γὰρ ὁ Πύρρων οὐδὲν ἀπέλιπεν, οἱ μέντοι συνήθεις αὐτοῦ Τίμων καὶ Αἰνεσίδημος καὶ Νουμήνιος καὶ Ναυσιφάνης καὶ ἄλλοι τοιοῦτοι. Οἷς ἀντιλέγοντες οἱ δογματικοί φασιν αὐτοὺς καταλαμβάνεσθαι καὶ δογματίζειν· ἐν ᾧ γὰρ δοκοῦσι διελέγχειν καταλαμβάνονται3· καὶ γὰρ ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ κρατύνουσι καὶ δογματίζουσι. καὶ γὰρ ὅτε φασὶ μηδὲν ὁρίζειν καὶ παντὶ λόγῳ λόγον ἀντικεῖσθαι, αὐτὰ ταῦτα καὶ ὁρίζονται καὶ δογματίζουσι.

​It is also possible to understand the entire manner of their collection from the treatises that have been left behind. For Pyrrho himself left nothing, but his associates Timon, Aenesidemus, Numenius, Nausiphanes, and others of this kind did. Contradicting these, the Dogmatists say that they themselves apprehend and dogmatize; for in that wherein they seem to refute, they apprehend; and indeed, in the very same thing they confirm and dogmatize. For even when they say that they determine nothing and that to every argument an argument is opposed, these very things they both determine and dogmatize.

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 9.11.99τὸ γενόμενον τῆς πασχούσης ὕλης ὀφείλει εἶναι

    The genitive τῆς πασχούσης ὕλης functions as a predicate genitive of property or material/origin ("ought to belong to / partake of passive matter"), expressing the necessary condition that whatever is brought into being must possess a passive, material nature.

  2. 9.11.100τῷ εἶναι διδάσκεται ἢ τὸ μὴ ὂν τῷ μὴ εἶναι

    The datives τῷ εἶναι and τῷ μὴ εἶναι are datives of cause or respect ("by virtue of being / in respect of its being"). In the following clause, τῷ μὴ ὄντι functions in strict parallel as "in respect of not being".

  3. 9.11.102ἐν ᾧ γὰρ δοκοῦσι διελέγχειν καταλαμβάνονται

    The verb καταλαμβάνονται is best taken as middle in sense ("they themselves grasp / make an apprehension"), corresponding directly to the Dogmatists' claim just preceding: αὐτοὺς καταλαμβάνεσθαι. While a passive reading ("they are caught / trapped in the very thing in which they seem to refute") is grammatically possible, the middle aligns better with the parallel pairing with κρατύνουσι καὶ δογματίζουσι.

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