Diogenes Laertius

Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers

§2.8.71-2.8.76

Aristippus on Education, Self-Control, and Pleasures

The witty anecdotes of Aristippus continue, illustrating his distinctive moderation regarding luxury and pleasure, his views on education, and his mastery over desires in his dealings with Dionysius and the courtesan Lais.

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Εἰς Κόρινθον αὐτῷ πλέοντί ποτε καὶ χειμαζομένῳ συνέβη ταραχθῆναι. πρὸς οὖν τὸν εἰπόντα, ἡμεῖς μὲν οἱ ἰδιῶται οὐ δεδοίκαμεν, ὑμεῖς δʼ οἱ φιλόσοφοι δειλιᾶτε, οὐ γὰρ περὶ ὁμοίας, ἔφη, ψυχῆς ἀγωνιῶμεν ἑκάτεροι. σεμνυνομένου τινὸς ἐπὶ πολυμαθείᾳ ἔφη, ὥσπερ οὐχ οἱ τὰ πλεῖστα ἐσθίοντες [καὶ γυμναζόμενοι] ὑγιαίνουσι μᾶλλον τῶν τὰ δέοντα προσφερομένων, οὕτως οὐδὲ οἱ πολλὰ ἀλλʼ οἱ χρήσιμα ἀναγινώσκοντές εἰσι σπουδαῖοι. πρὸς τὸν ὑπὲρ αὐτοῦ λογογράφον δίκην εἰπόντα καὶ νικήσαντα, ἔπειτα φάσκοντα πρὸς αὐτόν, τί σε ὤνησε Σωκράτης; ἔφη, τοῦτο, τοὺς λόγους, οὓς εἶπας ὑπὲρ ἐμοῦ, ἀληθεῖς εἶναι.

​Once, while sailing to Corinth and being caught in a storm, it happened that he was terrified. When someone remarked, "We ordinary folk are not afraid, but you philosophers are cowards," he said, "It is because the lives we are each anxious about are not of equal value." To someone who prided himself on his vast learning, he said, "Just as those who eat the most are not healthier than those who take what is necessary, so too not those who read many things, but those who read useful things are the virtuous." To the speechwriter who had pleaded on his behalf in a lawsuit and won, and then said to him, "What did Socrates profit you?" he replied, "This: that the words you spoke on my behalf were true."

Τὰ ἄριστα ὑπετίθετο τῇ θυγατρὶ Ἀρήτῃ, συνασκῶν αὐτὴν ὑπεροπτικὴν τοῦ πλέονος εἶναι. ἐρωτηθεὶς ὑπό τινος τί αὐτοῦ υἱὸς ἀμείνων ἔσται παιδευθείς, καὶ εἰ μηδὲν ἄλλο, εἶπεν, ἐν γοῦν τῷ θεάτρῳ οὐ καθεδεῖται λίθος ἐπὶ λίθῳ1 συνιστάντος τινὸς αὐτῷ υἱὸν ᾔτησε πεντακοσίας δραχμάς· τοῦ δʼ εἰπόντος, τοσούτου δύναμαι ἀνδράποδον ὠνήσασθαι, πρίω, ἔφη, καὶ ἕξεις δύο. ἀργύριον εἶπε παρὰ τῶν γνωρίμων λαμβάνειν, οὐχ ἵνʼ αὐτὸς χρῷτο, ἀλλʼ ἵνʼ ἐκεῖνοι εἰδεῖεν εἰς τίνα δεῖ χρῆσθαι τοῖς ἀργυρίοις. ὀνειδιζόμενός ποτε ὅτι δίκην ἔχων ἐμισθώσατο ῥήτορα, καὶ γάρ, ἔφη, ὅταν δεῖπνον ἔχω, μάγειρον μισθοῦμαι.

​He gave the best counsels to his daughter Arete, training her to be contemptuous of excess. When asked by someone in what respect his son would be better off if educated, he said, "Even if in nothing else, at any rate in the theatre he will not sit as a stone upon a stone." When someone recommended a son to him, he asked for five hundred drachmas; and when the man said, "For that amount I can buy a slave," Aristippus said, "Buy one, and you will have two." He used to say that he took money from his acquaintances not so that he himself might use it, but so that they might know on whom they ought to spend their money. When reproached on one occasion for having hired an orator when he had a lawsuit, he said, "For indeed, whenever I have a banquet, I hire a cook."

Ἀναγκαζόμενός ποτε ὑπὸ Διονυσίου εἰπεῖν τι τῶν ἐκ φιλοσοφίας, γελοῖον, ἔφη, εἰ τὸ λέγειν μὲν παρʼ ἐμοῦ μανθάνεις, τὸ δὲ πότε δεῖ λέγειν σύ με διδάσκεις. ἐπὶ τούτῳ δὴ ἀγανακτήσαντα τὸν Διονύσιον ἔσχατον αὐτὸν κατακλῖναι2· καὶ τόν, ἐνδοξότερον, φάναι, τὸν τόπον ἠθέλησας ποιῆσαι. αὐχοῦντός τινος ἐπὶ τῷ κολυμβᾶν, οὐκ αἰσχύνῃ, εἶπεν, ἐπὶ δελφῖνος ἔργοις ἀλαζονευόμενος; ἐρωτηθείς ποτε τίνι διαφέρει σοφὸς τοῦ μὴ σοφοῦ, ἔφη, εἰς ἀγνῶτας τοὺς δύο γυμνοὺς ἀπόστειλον, καὶ εἴσῃ. αὐχοῦντός τινος ἐπὶ τῷ πολλὰ πίνειν καὶ μὴ μεθύσκεσθαι, τοῦτο καὶ ἡμίονος, φησί.

​Once, when compelled by Dionysius to say something drawn from philosophy, he said, "It is ridiculous if you learn from me what to say, but you teach me when one ought to say it." At this, Dionysius was indignant and made him recline in the lowest place; whereupon Aristippus said, "You wished to make that place more distinguished." To someone who boasted of his swimming, he said, "Are you not ashamed to boast of the achievements of a dolphin?" When asked on one occasion in what respect the wise man differs from the unwise, he said, "Send the two naked among strangers, and you will know." To someone who boasted of being able to drink much and not get drunk, he said, "A mule can do that too."

Πρὸς τὸν αἰτιώμενον ὅτι ἑταίρᾳ συνοικεῖ, ἆρά γε, εἶπε, μή τι διενέγκαιἂνοἰκίαν λαβεῖν ἐν πολλοί ποτε ᾤκησαν μηδείς, εἰπόντος δὲ οὔ, τί δὲ πλεῦσαι ἐν νηῒ μυρίοι ποτὲ ἐνέπλευσαν μηδείς; οὐδαμῶς. οὐδʼ ἄρα γυναικί, ἔφη, συνεῖναι πολλοὶ κέχρηνται μηδείς. πρὸς τὸν αἰτιώμενον ὅτι Σωκράτους μαθητὴς ὢν ἀργύριον λαμβάνει, καὶ μάλα, εἶπε· καὶ γὰρ Σωκράτης, πεμπόντων αὐτῷ τινων καὶ σῖτον καὶ οἶνον, ὀλίγα λαμβάνων τὰ λοιπὰ ἀπέπεμπεν· εἶχε γὰρ ταμίας τοὺς πρώτους Ἀθηναίων, ἐγὼ δʼ Εὐτυχίδην ἀργυρώνητον. ἐχρῆτο καὶ Λαΐδι τῇ ἑταίρᾳ, καθά φησι Σωτίων ἐν τῷ δευτέρῳ τῶν Διαδοχῶν.

​To someone who accused him of living with a courtesan, he said, "Would it make any difference to take a house in which many have lived, or one in which no one has lived?" And when the man said no, "And what about sailing in a ship in which myriad people have sailed, or in one in which no one has sailed?" "Not in the least." "Neither, then," he said, "does it make any difference to live with a woman whom many have enjoyed, or one whom no one has enjoyed." To someone who accused him of taking money although he was a pupil of Socrates, he said, "Very much so; for Socrates too, when people sent him both corn and wine, would take a little and send back the rest; for he had the foremost of the Athenians as his stewards, but I have Eutychides, a slave bought with money." He also associated with the courtesan Lais, as Sotion says in the second book of his Successions.

πρὸς οὖν τοὺς μεμφομένους αὐτῷ ἔφη, ἔχω [Λαΐδα], ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἔχομαι3· ἐπεὶ τὸ κρατεῖν καὶ μὴ ἡττᾶσθαι ἡδονῶν ἄριστον, οὐ τὸ μὴ χρῆσθαι. πρὸς τὸν ὀνειδίσαντα αὐτῷ πολυτελῆ ὀψωνίαν ἔφη, σὺ δʼ οὐκ ἂν τριωβόλου ταῦτʼ ἐπρίω; ὁμολογήσαντος δέ, οὐκέτι τοίνυν, ἔφη, φιλήδονος ἐγώ, ἀλλὰ σὺ φιλάργυρος. Σίμου ποτὲ τοῦ Διονυσίου ταμίου πολυτελεῖς οἴκους αὐτῷ καὶ λιθοστρώτους δεικνύντοσἦν δὲ Φρὺξ καὶ ὄλεθροσἀναχρεμψάμενος προσέπτυσε τῇ ὄψει· τοῦ δʼ ἀγανακτήσαντος, οὐκ εἶχον, εἶπε, τόπον ἐπιτηδειότερον.

​Therefore, to those who found fault with him, he said, "I possess Lais, but I am not possessed by her; for to rule over pleasures and not to be overcome by them is best, not abstaining from them." To someone who reproached him for an expensive purchase of food, he said, "Would you not have bought these things for three obols?" When the man agreed, he said, "It is no longer I, then, who am a lover of pleasure, but you who are a lover of money." Once, when Simus, the steward of Dionysius, was showing him houses that were luxurious and paved with stone—now Simus was a Phrygian and a pestilent fellow—Aristippus cleared his throat and spat in his face; and when Simus grew indignant, he said, "I had no place more suitable."

Πρὸς Χαρώνδαν εἰπόντα, οἱ δὲ πρὸς Φαίδωνα, τίς μεμυρισμένος; ἐγώ, φησίν, κακοδαίμων, κἀμοῦ κακοδαιμονέστερος Περσῶν βασιλεύς. ἀλλʼ ὅρα μὴ ὡς οὐδὲν τῶν ἄλλων ζῴων παρὰ τοῦτό τι ἐλαττοῦται, οὕτως οὐδʼ ἂν ἄνθρωπος. κακοὶ κακῶς δʼ ἀπόλοιντο οἱ κίναιδοι, οἵτινες καλὸν ἡμῖν ἄλειμμα διαβάλλουσιν. ἐρωτώμενος πῶς ἀπέθανε Σωκράτης, ἔφη, ὡς ἂν ἐγὼ εὐξαίμην. Πολυξένου ποτὲ τοῦ σοφιστοῦ εἰσελθόντος πρὸς αὐτὸν καὶ θεασαμένου γυναῖκάς τε καὶ πολυτελῆ ὀψωνίαν, ἔπειτα αἰτιασαμένου, μικρὸν διαλιπών, δύνασαι, ἔφη, καὶ σὺ σήμερον μεθʼ ἡμῶν γενέσθαι;

​When Charondas—or, as others say, Phaedo—asked, "Who is it that smells of perfume?" "It is I," he said, "unfortunate man that I am, and more unfortunate than I is the King of the Persians. But consider whether, just as none of the other animals is in any way demeaned on this account, so neither would a human being be. And may those catamites perish miserably, who bring a good ointment into disrepute among us!" When asked how Socrates died, he said, "As I myself would pray to die." Once, when the sophist Polyxenus entered his house and beheld both women and expensive provisions, and then began to reproach him, Aristippus, after pausing a moment, said, "Can you also join us today?"

Syntax notes3 items
  1. 2.8.72λίθος ἐπὶ λίθῳ

    An appositional and adverbial idiom meaning "to sit as a stone upon a stone" (i.e. to sit on the stone seats of the theatre as insensate as a stone). It satirizes the state of an uneducated youth who sits in the theatre like an inert object devoid of understanding.

  2. 2.8.73ἐπὶ τούτῳ δὴ ἀγανακτήσαντα τὸν Διονύσιον ἔσχατον αὐτὸν κατακλῖναι

    An accusative and infinitive construction dependent on implied indirect discourse (e.g. φασί). Both Dionysius (τὸν Διονύσιον, subject of the infinitive) and Aristippus (αὐτόν, object of κατακλῖναι) appear in the accusative: "Dionysius, having grown indignant at this, made him recline in the lowest seat."

  3. 2.8.75ἔχω [Λαΐδα], ἀλλʼ οὐκ ἔχομαι

    A rhetorical contrast between active ἔχω ("I possess") and passive ἔχομαι ("I am possessed / mastered"). This directly corresponds to the subsequent definition "to rule over pleasures (κρατεῖν) and not be overcome (μὴ ἡττᾶσθαι)," expressing the core Cyrenaic stance of enjoying pleasures without being enslaved by them.

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