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- Titi Livi ab urbe condita libri editionem priman, Pars I-IV, Libri I-XL. Editio Stereotypica. Weissenborn, Wilhelm; Mueller, Moritz, editors. Leipzig: Teubner, 1884-1911.
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The praetor Talna proposes a war against Rhodes without consulting the senate, which is opposed by the tribunes. Both the praetor and the tribunes act contrary to traditional procedures in their unseasonable conflict.
M’. Iuventius Talna praetor, cuius inter cives et peregrinos iurisdictio erat,1 populum adversus Rhodios incitabat rogationemque promulgaverat, ut Rhodiis bellum indiceretur, et ex magistratibus eius anni deligerent, qui ad id bellum cum classe mitteretur, se eum sperans futurum esse.
Manius Iuventius Talna, the praetor whose jurisdiction lay between citizens and foreigners, was inciting the people against the Rhodians and had published a proposal, that war should be declared on the Rhodians, and that they should choose from the magistrates of that year one who should be sent with a fleet to that war, hoping that he himself would be the one.
huic actioni M. Antonius et M. Pomponius tribuni plebis adversabantur.
This action was opposed by Marcus Antonius and Marcus Pomponius, tribunes of the plebs.
sed et praetor novo maloque exemplo rem ingressus erat, quod non ante consulto senatu,2 non consulibus certioribus factis de sua unius sententia rogationem ferret, vellent iuberentne3 Rhodiis bellum indici, cum antea semper prius senatus de bello consultus esset, deinde ex auctoritate patrum ad populum latum, et tribuni plebis,4 cum ita traditum esset, ne quis prius intercederet legi, quam privatis suadendi dissuadendique legem potestas facta esset, eoque persaepe evenisset, ut et, qui non professi essent se intercessuros, animadversis vitiis legis ex oratione dissuadentium intercederent, et, qui ad intercedendum venissent, desisterent victi auctoritatibus suadentium legem.
But the praetor also had entered upon the matter with a new and bad precedent, because without previously consulting the senate and without informing the consuls, solely on his own opinion, he brought forward a proposal as to whether they wished and ordered war to be declared on the Rhodians, whereas previously the senate had always been consulted first about war, and then the proposal had been brought before the people on the authority of the senators, and the tribunes of the plebs likewise, although it had been so handed down by tradition that no one should interpose a veto on a bill before private citizens had been given the opportunity of speaking for or against the law, and consequently it had very often happened both that those who had not declared that they would veto it did so after noticing the defects of the bill from the speech of those opposing it, and that those who had come to veto it desisted, overcome by the arguments of those supporting the law—
tum inter praetorem tribunosque omnia intempestive agendi certamen erat:
at that time, there was a rivalry between the praetor and the tribunes in doing everything unseasonably:
tribuni festinationem praetoris ante tempus intercedendo in adventum imperatoris
the tribunes, by interposing their veto before the proper time, [...] the haste of the praetor until the arrival of the commander...
- 45.21.1cuius inter cives et peregrinos iurisdictio erat
Refers to the office of the "praetor peregrinus" (foreign praetor), whose duty was to administer justice in disputes between citizens and foreigners.
- 45.21.4non ante consulto senatu
Ablative absolute. consulto is the ablative of the impersonal passive participle, forming an ablative absolute construction with senatu to mean "without the senate having been previously consulted." It is followed by another ablative absolute: non consulibus certioribus factis.
- 45.21.4vellent iuberentne
Indirect question in the subjunctive imperfect, adapted from the traditional formula used in proposing laws to the popular assembly: "velitis iubeatisque" (whether you wish and order). It depends on the verb rogationem ferret.
- 45.21.6et tribuni plebis
This subject is left without a main finite verb due to the long, nested cum clauses, resulting in an anacoluthon. The sentence's missing action is summarized in the next section (45.21.7) and resumed in 45.21.8.