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- Titi Livi ab urbe condita libri editionem priman, Pars I-IV, Libri I-XL. Editio Stereotypica. Weissenborn, Wilhelm; Mueller, Moritz, editors. Leipzig: Teubner, 1884-1911.
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-11-07
The Roman commander Quinctius proposes peace terms to King Philip of Macedon, followed by the specific demands of the allies (King Attalus, the Rhodians, the Achaeans, and the Aetolians), during which Alexander the Aetolian sharply denounces the king's historical treachery and destructive warfare.
secundum haec silentium fuit, cum Romanus eum aecum censeret priorem dicere,1 qui petisset colloquium, rex eius esse priorem orationem, qui daret pacis leges, non qui acciperet; tum Romanus: simplicem suam orationem esse; ea enim se dicturum, quae ni fiant, nulla sit pacis condicio.
After these words, there was a silence, as the Roman thought it fair that the one who had requested the conference should speak first, while the king believed that the first speech belonged to the one who dictated the terms of peace, not the one who received them. Then the Roman said: his speech was simple; for he was going to say things which, unless they were done, there would be no terms of peace.
deducenda ex omnibus Graeciae civitatibus regi praesidia esse, captivos et transfugas sociis populi Romani reddendos, restituenda Romanis ea Illyrici loca, quae post pacem in Epiro factam occupasset, Ptolomaeo Aegypti regi reddendas urbes, quas post Philopatoris Ptolomaei mortem occupavisset. suas populique Romani condiciones has esse; ceterum et socium audiri postulata verum esse.
The king must withdraw his garrisons from all the states of Greece, restore the captives and deserters to the allies of the Roman people, and return to the Romans those places in Illyricum which he had occupied after the peace made in Epirus; to Ptolemy, the king of Egypt, the cities must be restored which he had occupied after the death of Ptolemy Philopator. These were his terms and those of the Roman people; but it was also right that the demands of the allies should be heard.
Attali regis legatus naves captivosque, quae2 ad Chium navali proelio capta essent, et Nicephorium Venerisque templum, quae spoliasset evastassetque, pro incorruptis restitui;
The envoy of King Attalus demanded that the ships and captives which had been taken in the naval battle at Chios, and the Nicephorium and the temple of Venus, which he had plundered and devastated, should be restored in an undamaged state;
Rhodii Peraeam — regio est continentis adversus insulam, vetustae eorum dicionis — repetebant postulabantque praesidia deduci ab Iaso et a Bargyliis et Euromensium urbe et in Hellesponto Sesto atque Abydo, et Perinthum Byzantiis in antiqui formulam iuris restitui, et liberari omnia Asiae emporia portusque. Achaei Corinthum et Argos repetebant. praetor Aetolorum Phaeneas cum eadem fere, quae Romani, ut Graecia decederetur, postulasset, redderenturque Aetolis urbes, quae quondam iuris ac dicionis eorum fuissent, excepit orationem eius princeps Aetolorum Alexander, vir ut inter Aetolos facundus.
the Rhodians demanded back Peraea—this is a region of the mainland opposite the island, of their ancient dominion—and demanded that the garrisons be withdrawn from Iasus, Bargyliae, the city of the Euromenses, and in the Hellespont from Sestus and Abydus, and that Perinthus should be restored to the Byzantines under the status of their ancient law, and that all the emporia and ports of Asia should be freed. The Achaeans demanded back Corinth and Argos. When the praetor of the Aetolians, Phaeneas, had demanded almost the same things as the Romans, namely that Greece should be evacuated, and that the cities should be returned to the Aetolians which had once been under their law and dominion, Alexander, a leading man of the Aetolians, and eloquent for an Aetolian, took up the discourse.
iam dudum se reticere ait, non quo quicquam agi putet eo colloquio, sed ne quem sociorum dicentem interpellet. nec de pace cum fide Philippum agere nec bella vera virtute umquam gessisse.
He said that he had been silent for a long time, not because he thought anything was being accomplished by that conference, but so as not to interrupt any of the allies while speaking. Philip was neither treating of peace with good faith, nor had he ever waged war with true valor.
in colloquiis insidiari et captare; in bello non congredi aequo campo neque signis collatis dimicare, sed refugientem incendere ac diripere urbes et vincentium praemia victum corrumpere.
In conferences he laid snares and watched for opportunities; in war he did not meet on a fair field nor fight in pitched battles, but as he fled, he burned and plundered cities, and though defeated, he destroyed the rewards of the victors.
at non antiquos Macedonum reges, rem ita gessisse, sed acie bellare solitos, urbibus parcere, quantum possent, quo opulentius haberent imperium.
But the ancient kings of the Macedonians had not conducted matters in this way, but were accustomed to fight in battle-array and to spare cities as much as they could, so that they might hold a wealthier empire.
nam de quorum possessione dimicetur tollentem3 nihil sibi praeter bellum relinquere, quod consilium esse?
For what kind of policy was it to leave nothing to oneself except war, by destroying the very things for whose possession the contest is waged?
pluris priore anno sociorum urbes in Thessalia evastasse Philippum quam omnes, qui umquam hostes Thessaliae fuerint.
In the previous year, Philip had devastated more cities of the allies in Thessaly than all who had ever been enemies of Thessaly.
ipsis quoque Aetolis eum plura socium quam hostem ademisse: Lysimachiam pulso praetore et praesidio Aetolorum occupasse eum;
From the Aetolians themselves also, he had taken away more things as an ally than as an enemy: he had occupied Lysimachia after driving out the praetor and the Aetolian garrison;
Cium, item suae dicionis urbem, funditus evertisse ac delesse; eadem fraude habere eum Thebas Phthias, Echinum, Larisam, Pharsalum.
Cius, likewise a city of their dominion, he had utterly overthrown and destroyed; by the same fraud he held Phthiotic Thebes, Echinus, Larisa, and Pharsalus.
- 32.33.1eum aecum censeret priorem dicere
Meaning "the Roman thought it fair that he (the king) should speak first". Here "eum" is the subject accusative of the infinitive phrase "priorem dicere", which itself acts as the subject of the impersonal predicate "aecum [esse]".
- 32.33.5naves captivosque, quae
Although the antecedents are "naves" (feminine) and "captivos" (masculine), the relative pronoun "quae" is neuter plural. This reflects the Latin grammatical rule where a relative pronoun referring to multiple antecedents of different genders (especially when mixing living and non-living things) often becomes neuter plural.
- 32.33.13de quorum possessione dimicetur tollentem
The subject part of the accusative-with-infinitive construction in indirect speech. "tollentem" is a present participle used substantively ("one who takes away/destroys"), and the relative clause "de quorum possessione dimicetur" ("things for whose possession the contest is waged") functionally acts as the object of this participle.
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