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§8.8.1-8.8.5

Geography, Rivers, and Desolation of Arcadia

Strabo describes the geography of Arcadia, its past renown, and its current state of severe desolation, noting the unique subterranean passages of rivers like the Alpheius, Ladon, and Erasinus. He then addresses the discrepancy between Polybius and Artemidorus regarding distances across the Peloponnese, and lists the mythological founders of its cities.

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§8.8.1

Ἀρκαδία δʼ ἐστὶν ἐν μέσῳ μὲν τῆς Πελοποννήσου, πλείστην δὲ χώραν ὀρεινὴν ἀποτέμνεται. μέγιστον δʼ ὄρος ἐν αὐτῇ Κυλλήνη· τὴν γοῦν κάθετον1 οἱ μὲν εἴκοσι σταδίων φασὶν οἱ δʼ ὅσον πεντεκαίδεκα. δοκεῖ δὲ παλαιότατα ἔθνη τῶν Ἑλλήνων εἶναι τὰ Ἀρκαδικά, Ἀζᾶνές τε καὶ Παρράσιοι καὶ ἄλλοι τοιοῦτοι. διὰ δὲ τὴν τῆς χώρας παντελῆ κάκωσιν οὐκ ἂν προσήκοι μακρολογεῖν περὶ αὐτῶν· αἵ τε γὰρ πόλεις ὑπὸ τῶν συνεχῶν πολέμων ἠφανίσθησαν ἔνδοξοι γενόμεναι πρότερον, τήν τε χώραν οἱ γεωργήσαντες ἐκλελοίπασιν ἐξ ἐκείνων ἔτι τῶν χρόνων ἐξ ὧν2 εἰς τὴν προσαγορευθεῖσαν Μεγάλην πόλιν αἱ πλεῖσται συνῳκίσθησαν. νυνὶ δὲ καὶ αὐτὴ ἡ Μεγάλη πόλις τὸ τοῦ κωμικοῦ πέπονθε3 καὶ "ἐρημία μεγάλη ʼστὶν ἡ Μεγάλη πόλις." βοσκήμασι δʼ εἰσὶ νομαὶ δαψιλεῖς, καὶ μάλιστα ἵπποις καὶ ὄνοις τοῖς ἱπποβάταις· ἔστι δὲ καὶ τὸ γένος τῶν ἵππων ἄριστον τὸ Ἀρκαδικόν, καθάπερ καὶ τὸ Ἀργολικὸν καὶ τὸ Ἐπιδαύριον. καὶ ἡ τῶν Αἰτωλῶν δὲ καὶ Ἀκαρνάνων ἐρημία πρὸς ἱπποτροφίαν εὐφυὴς γέγονεν οὐχ ἧττον τῆς Θετταλίας.

​Arcadia is in the middle of the Peloponnese, and occupies most of the mountainous country. The highest mountain in it is Cyllene; at any rate, some say its perpendicular height is twenty stadia, and others about fifteen. The Arcadian tribes, such as the Azanes and the Parrhasioi and other such peoples, seem to be the oldest nations of the Greeks. But because of the complete ruin of the country, it would not be fitting to speak of them at length; for the cities, though having become famous in former times, have disappeared through continuous wars, and the tillers of the soil have left the land since those times when most of the cities were united into the city called Megalopolis. And now even Megalopolis itself has suffered the fate mentioned by the comic poet: “A great wilderness is Megalopolis.” Yet there are abundant pastures for herds, and especially for horses and for asses that breed with horses; and the Arcadian breed of horses is excellent, just like the Argolic and the Epidaurian. And the desolation of the Aetolians and Acarnanians has become no less well-adapted for horse-breeding than Thessaly.

§8.8.2

Μαντίνειαν μὲν οὖν ἐποίησεν ἔνδοξον Ἐπαμεινώνδας, τῇ δευτέρᾳ νικήσας μάχῃ Λακεδαιμονίους ἐν ᾗ καὶ αὐτὸς ἐτελεύτα. καὶ αὕτη δὲ καὶ Ὀρχομενὸς καὶ Ἡραία καὶ Κλείτωρ καὶ Φενεὸς καὶ Στύμφαλος καὶ Μαίναλος καὶ Μεθύδριον καὶ Καφυεῖς καὶ Κύναιθα ἢ οὐκέτʼ εἰσὶν ἢ μόλις αὐτῶν ἴχνη φαίνεται καὶ σημεῖα. Τεγέα δʼ ἔτι μετρίως συμμένει καὶ τὸ ἱερὸν τῆς Ἀλέας Ἀθηνᾶς· τιμᾶται δʼ ἐπὶ μικρὸν καὶ τὸ τοῦ Λυκαίου Διὸς ἱερὸν κατὰ τὸ Λύκαιον [μέγιστον] ὄρος. τῶν δʼ ὑπὸ τοῦ ποιητοῦ λεγομένων "Ῥίπην τε Στρατίην τε καὶ ἠνεμόεσσαν Ἐνίσπην" εὑρεῖν τε χαλεπὸν καὶ εὑροῦσιν οὐδὲν ὄφελος διὰ τὴν ἐρημίαν.

​Epameinondas made Mantineia famous, conquering the Lacedaemonians in the second battle, in which he himself also died. And this city, as well as Orchomenus, Heraea, Cleitor, Pheneus, Stymphalus, Maenalus, Methydrium, Caphyeis, and Cynaetha, either no longer exist, or else scarcely any traces or signs of them appear. Tegea still moderately endures, as does the temple of Athena Alea; and the temple of Lycaean Zeus on Mount Lycaeum is also honored in a small way. As for the places mentioned by the poet: “Ripe and Stratie and windy Enispe,” it is difficult to find them, and even to those who find them they are of no use because of the desolation.

§8.8.3

ὄρη δʼ ἐπιφανῆ πρὸς τῇ Κυλλήνῃ Φολόη τε καὶ Λύκαιον καὶ Μαίναλος καὶ τὸ Παρθένιον καλούμενον καθῆκον ἐπὶ τὴν Ἀργείαν ἀπὸ τῆς Τεγεάτιδος.

​The notable mountains, besides Cyllene, are Pholoe, Lycaeum, Maenalus, and that called Parthenium, which extends from the Tegeatis to the Argia.

§8.8.4

περὶ δὲ τοῦ Ἀλφειοῦ καὶ τοῦ Εὐρώτα τὸ συμβεβηκὸς παράδοξον εἴρηται καὶ τὸ περὶ Ἐρασῖνον τὸν ἐκδιδόντα ἐκ τῆς Στυμφαλίδος λίμνης εἰς τὴν Ἀργείαν νυνί, πρότερον δʼ οὐκ ἔχοντα ἔκρυσιν, τῶν βερέθρων, ἃ καλοῦσιν οἱ Ἀρκάδες ζέρεθρα, τυφλῶν ὄντων καὶ μὴ δεχομένων ἀπέρασιν ὥστε τὴν τῶν Στυμφαλίων πόλιν νῦν μὲν καὶ πεντήκοντα διέχειν σταδίους ἀπὸ τῆς λίμνης, τότε δʼ ἐπʼ αὐτῆς κεῖσθαι. τἀναντία δʼ ὁ Λάδων ἔπαθε τοῦ ῥεύματος ἐπισχεθέντος ποτὲ διὰ τὴν ἔμφραξιν τῶν πηγῶν· συμπεσόντα γὰρ τὰ περὶ Φενεὸν βέρεθρα ὑπὸ σεισμοῦ, διʼ ὧν ἦν ἡ φορά, μονὴν ἐποίησε τοῦ ῥεύματος μέχρι τῶν κατὰ βάθους φλεβῶν τῆς πηγῆς. καὶ οἱ μὲν οὕτω λέγουσιν· Ἐρατοσθένης δέ φησι περὶ Φενεὸν μὲν τὸν Ἀνίαν καλούμενον ποταμὸν λιμνάζειν τὰ πρὸ τῆς πόλεως, καταδύεσθαι δʼ εἴς τινας ἠθμοὺς οὓς καλεῖσθαι ζέρεθρα· τούτων δʼ ἐμφραχθέντων ἔσθʼ ὅτε ὑπερχεῖσθαι τὸ ὕδωρ εἰς τὰ πεδία, πάλιν δʼ ἀναστομουμένων ἄθρουν ἐκ τῶν πεδίων ἐκπεσὸν εἰς τὸν Λάδωνα καὶ τὸν Ἀλφειὸν ἐμβάλλειν, ὥστε καὶ τῆς Ὀλυμπίας κλυσθῆναί ποτε τὴν περὶ τὸ ἱερὸν γῆν, τὴν δὲ λίμνην συσταλῆναι· τὸν Ἐρασῖνον δὲ παρὰ Στυμφάλου ῥέοντα ὑποδύντα ὑπὸ τὸ ὄρος ἐν τῇ Ἀργείᾳ πάλιν ἀναφανῆναι· διὸ δὴ καὶ Ἰφικράτη πολιορκοῦντα τὸν Στύμφαλον καὶ μηδὲν περαίνοντα ἐπιχειρῆσαι τὴν κατάδυσιν ἀποφράξαι σπόγγους πορισάμενον πολλούς, παύσασθαι δὲ διοσημίας γενομένης. περὶ Φενεὸν δʼ ἔστι καὶ τὸ καλούμενον Στυγὸς ὕδωρ, λιβάδιον ὀλεθρίου ὕδατος νομιζόμενον ἱερόν. τοσαῦτα καὶ περὶ Ἀρκαδίας εἰρήσθω.

​Concerning the Alpheius and the Eurotas, the remarkable thing that happens to them has been told; and also concerning the Erasinus, which now empties from the Stymphalian Lake into the Argia, but formerly had no outlet, since the underground channels—which the Arcadians call “zerethra”—were blocked and did not admit any passage, so that the city of the Stymphalians is now fifty stadia distant from the lake, whereas then it lay upon it. The Ladon, on the contrary, suffered the opposite, its stream being once checked because of the blocking of its sources; for the underground channels around Pheneus, through which its flow used to pass, collapsed owing to an earthquake, and caused the stream to stop as far back as the deep veins of its source. And some indeed speak thus; but Eratosthenes says that around Pheneus the river called Anias forms a lake in front of the city, and sinks into certain strainers which are called “zerethra”; and when these are blocked, the water sometimes overflows into the plains, but when they open again, the water rushes all at once out of the plains and empties into the Ladon and the Alpheius, so that even the land around the temple at Olympia was once flooded, while the lake shrunk; and that the Erasinus, flowing past Stymphalus, slips under the mountain and appears again in the Argia; and that for this reason Iphicrates, when besieging Stymphalus and accomplishing nothing, attempted to block up the descent by procuring many sponges, but desisted when a sign from heaven occurred. Near Pheneus there is also what is called the Water of Styx, a small stream of deadly water which is considered sacred. Let so much be said concerning Arcadia.

§8.8.5

Πολυβίου δʼ εἰρηκότος τὸ ἀπὸ Μαλεῶν ἐπὶ τὰς ἄρκτους μέχρι τοῦ Ἴστρου διάστημα περὶ μυρίους σταδίους, εὐθύνει τοῦτο ὁ Ἀρτεμίδωρος οὐκ ἀτόπως, ἐπὶ μὲν Αἴγιον χιλίους καὶ [τετρακοσ]ίους εἶναι λέγων ἐκ Μαλεῶν ὁδόν, ἐνθένδε εἰς [Κίρραν πλοῦν] διακοσίων, ἐνθένδε διὰ Ἡρακλείας [εἰς Θαυμακοὺς] πεντακοσίων4 ὁδόν, εἶτα εἰς Λάρισαν [καὶ τὸν Πηνειὸν] τριακοσίων τετταράκοντα, εἶτα διὰ [τῶν Τεμπῶν ἐπὶ τὰς Πη]νειοῦ ἐκβολὰς διακοσίων τετταράκον[τα, εἶτα εἰς τὴν Θεσσα]λονίκειαν ἑξακοσίων ἑξήκοντα, ἐντεῦ[θεν ἐπʼ Ἴστρον διʼ Εἰδομ]ένης καὶ Στόβων καὶ Δαρδανίων τρισχι[λίους καὶ διακοσίο]υς. κατʼ ἐκεῖνον δὴ συμβαίνει τὸ ἐκ [τοῦ Ἴστρου ἐπὶ τὰς Μαλ]έας ἑξακισχιλίων πεντακοσίων. αἴτιον δὲ τούτου τὸ μὴ τὴν σύντομον καταμετρεῖν, ἀλλὰ τὴν τυχοῦσαν ἣν ἐπορεύθη τῶν στρατηγῶν τις. οὐκ ἄτοπον δʼ ἴσως καὶ τοὺς οἰκιστὰς προσθεῖναι τῶν τὴν Πελοπόννησον οἰκούντων, οὓς εἶπεν Ἔφορος, τοὺς μετὰ τὴν Ἡρακλειδῶν κάθοδον· Κορίνθου μὲν Ἀλήτην, Σικυῶνος δὲ Φάλκην, Ἀχαΐας δὲ Τισαμενόν, Ἤλιδος δʼ Ὄξυλον, Μεσσήνης δὲ Κρεσφόντην, Λακεδαίμονος δʼ Εὐρυσθένη καὶ Προκλῆ, Ἄργους δὲ Τήμενον κ[αὶ Κισσόν, τῶν δὲ] περὶ τὴν Ἀκτὴν Ἀγραῖον καὶ Δηιφόντην.

​Since Polybius has said that the distance from Maleae to the north as far as the Ister is about ten thousand stadia, Artemidorus corrects this not without reason, saying that from Maleae to Aegium is a journey of one thousand four hundred stadia, thence to [Patrae] two hundred, thence through Heracleia [to Ambracia] a journey of five hundred, then to Larissa three hundred and forty, then through the mouth of the [Pe]neius two hundred and forty, then [beyond Thessa]lonica six hundred and sixty, thence [through Edo]mene and Stobi and the Dardanians three thousand [two hundred] stadia. According to him, indeed, the distance from [Maleae to the Ister] happens to be six thousand five hundred. And the cause of this is his not measuring the shortest route, but any chance route which some one of the generals marched. And it is perhaps not out of place to add the founders of those who inhabit the Peloponnese, whom Ephorus mentioned, those after the return of the Heracleidae: Aletes of Corinth, Phalces of Sicyon, Tisamenus of Achaea, Oxylus of Elis, Cresphontes of Messene, Eurysthenes and Procles of Lacedaemon, Temenus of Argos, and Agraeus and Deiphontes around Acte.

Syntax notes4 items
  1. 8.8.1Κυλλήνη· τὴν γοῦν κάθετον

    The geometrical term κάθετος (perpendicular line, with γραμμή understood) is used here as a feminine noun to mean the "perpendicular height" or altitude of the mountain.

  2. 8.8.1ἐξ ἐκείνων ἔτι τῶν χρόνων ἐξ ὧν

    The relative pronoun ὧν with the preposition ἐξ corresponds to the antecedent ἐκείνων τῶν χρόνων. Historically, this refers to the founding of Megalopolis after the Battle of Leuctra (371 BC), when inhabitants from numerous surrounding demes and cities were forcibly relocated (synoecism) to form the new "Great City".

  3. 8.8.1τὸ τοῦ κωμικοῦ πέπονθε

    A conventional idiom meaning "has suffered the fate of the comic poet['s saying]." The neuter singular accusative article τό anticipates the following quotation, "A great wilderness is Megalopolis," or the state described by it. The "comic poet" refers to a writer of Attic New Comedy.

  4. 8.8.5ἐνθένδε εἰς διακοσίων... ἑξακισχιλίων πεντακοσίων

    This passage contains severe textual corruption and lacunae in the manuscript tradition. It is reconstructed here to match the itinerary of Artemidorus: νειοῦ is read as Πηνειοῦ (River Peneius); τετταράκονλονίκειαν as a corruption of τετταράκοντα, εἶθʼ ὑπὲρ Θεσσαλονίκειαν; ἐντεῦένης as ἐντεῦθεν διὰ Εἰδομένης; and τρισχιυς as τρισχιλίους [δια코σίους]. These emendations restore the total distance from Maleae to the Ister to 6,500 stadia.

Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-25) · Revision history (1, latest 2026-09-23)
  • 2026-09-23 Collated with the printed edition — source 1
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