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§15.1.7-15.1.9

Critique of the Indian Expeditions of Heracles and Dionysus

The mythical reports about the Indian expeditions of Heracles and Dionysus are examined, and they are shown to be fabrications by Alexander's flatterers due to contradictions in sources and lack of geographical evidence.

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§15.1.7

καὶ τὰ περὶ Ἡρακλέους δὲ καὶ Διονύσου Μεγασθένης μὲν μετʼ ὀλίγων πιστὰ ἡγεῖται, τῶν δʼ ἄλλων οἱ πλείους, ὧν ἐστι καὶ Ἐρατοσθένης, ἄπιστα καὶ μυθώδη, καθάπερ καὶ τὰ παρὰ τοῖς Ἕλλησιν. ὁ μὲν γὰρ ἐν ταῖς Βάκχαις ταῖς Εὐριπίδου Διόνυσος τοιαῦτα νεανιεύεται λιπὼν δὲ Λυδῶν τὰς πολυχρύσους γύας Φρυγῶν τε Περσῶν θʼ ἡλιοβλήτους πλάκας Βάκτριά τε τείχη τήν τε δύσχειμον χθόνα Μήδων ἐπῆλθον Ἀραβίαν τʼ εὐδαίμονα Ἀσίαν τε πᾶσαν. παρὰ Σοφοκλεῖ δέ τίς ἐστι τὴν Νῦσαν καθυμνῶν ὡς τὸ Διονύσῳ καθιερωμένον ὄρος ὅθεν κατεῖδον τὴν βεβακχιωμένην βροτοῖσι κλεινὴν Νῦσαν, ἣν ὁ βούκερως Ἴακχος * αὐτῷ μαῖαν ἡδίστην νέμει, ὅπου τίς ὄρνις οὐχὶ κλαγγάνει; καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς. καὶ ὁ ποιητὴς περὶ Λυκούργου τοῦ Ἠδωνοῦ φησιν οὕτως ὅς ποτε μαινομένοιο Διωνύσοιο τιθήνας σεῦε κατʼ ἠγάθεον Νυσήιον. τοιαῦτα μὲν τὰ περὶ Διονύσου. περὶ δὲ Ἡρακλέους οἱ μὲν ἐπὶ τἀναντία μόνον μέχρι τῶν ἑσπερίων περάτων ἱστοροῦσιν, οἱ δʼ ἐφʼ ἑκάτερα.

​And Megasthenes, with a few others, considers the reports about Heracles and Dionysus to be trustworthy, but most of the others, among whom is Eratosthenes, consider them untrustworthy and mythical, just like those among the Greeks. For Dionysus in Euripides’ Bacchae boasts in this way: “Leaving the golden lands of the Lydians, and the sun-struck plains of the Phrygians and the Persians, and the Bactrian walls, and the harsh land of the Medes, I traversed happy Arabia and all Asia.” And in Sophocles, someone is praising Nysa as the mountain consecrated to Dionysus: “whence I looked down upon the renowned Nysa, filled with Bacchic frenzy for mortals, which the bull-horned Iacchus assigns as the sweetest nurse to himself, where what bird does not sing?” And so on. And the poet says of Lycurgus the Edonian thus: “who once chased the nurses of the frenzied Dionysus down the sacred Nyseion.” Such are the stories about Dionysus. But concerning Heracles, some record only as far as the western limits in the opposite direction, while others record both directions.

§15.1.8

Ἐκ δὲ τῶν τοιούτων Νυσαίους δή τινας ἔθνος προσωνόμασαν καὶ πόλιν παρʼ αὐτοῖς Νῦσαν Διονύσου κτίσμα, καὶ ὄρος τὸ ὑπὲρ τῆς πόλεως Μηρόν, αἰτιασάμενοι καὶ τὸν αὐτόθι κισσὸν καὶ ἄμπελον, οὐδὲ ταύτην τελεσίκαρπον· ἀπορρεῖ γὰρ ὁ βότρυς πρὶν περκάσαι διὰ τοὺς ὄμβρους τοὺς ἄδην· Διονύσου δʼ ἀπογόνους τοὺς Συδράκας1 ἀπὸ τῆς ἀμπέλου τῆς παρʼ αὐτοῖς καὶ τῶν πολυτελῶν ἐξόδων, βακχικῶς τάς τε ἐκστρατείας ποιουμένων τῶν βασιλέων καὶ τὰς ἄλλας ἐξόδους μετὰ τυμπανισμοῦ καὶ εὐανθοῦς στολῆς· ὅπερ ἐπιπολάζει καὶ παρὰ τοῖς ἄλλοις Ἰνδοῖς. Ἄορνον δέ τινα πέτραν, ἧς τὰς ῥίζας ὁ Ἰνδὸς ὑπορρεῖ πλησίον τῶν πηγῶν, Ἀλεξάνδρου κατὰ μίαν προσβολὴν ἑλόντος, σεμνύνοντες ἔφασαν τὸν Ἡρακλέα τρὶς μὲν προσβαλεῖν τῇ πέτρᾳ ταύτῃ τρὶς δʼ ἀποκρουσθῆναι. τῶν δὲ κοινωνησάντων αὐτῷ τῆς στρατείας ἀπογόνους εἶναι τοὺς Σίβας, σύμβολα τοῦ γένους σώζοντας τό τε δορὰς ἀμπέχεσθαι, καθάπερ τὸν Ἡρακλέα, καὶ τὸ σκυταληφορεῖν καὶ ἐπικεκαῦσθαι βουσὶ καὶ ἡμιόνοις ῥόπαλον. βεβαιοῦνται δὲ τὸν μῦθον τοῦτον καὶ ἐκ τῶν περὶ τὸν Καύκασον καὶ τὸν Προμηθέα· καὶ γὰρ ταῦτα μετενηνόχασιν ἐκ τοῦ Πόντου δεῦρο ἀπὸ μικρᾶς προφάσεως, ἰδόντες σπήλαιον ἐν τοῖς Παροπαμισάδαις ἱερόν· τοῦτο γὰρ ἀνεδείξαντο Προμηθέως δεσμωτήριον, καὶ δεῦρο ἀφιγμένον τὸν Ἡρακλέα ἐπὶ τὴν ἐλευθέρωσιν τοῦ Προμηθέως, καὶ τοῦτον εἶναι τὸν Καύκασον ὃν Ἕλληνες Προμηθέως δεσμωτήριον ἀπέφηναν.

​On such grounds, they called certain people by the ethnic name of Nysaeans, and their city Nysa, a foundation of Dionysus, and the mountain above the city Meros, alleging as their reason both the ivy and the vine there, even though the latter does not bring its fruit to maturity, since the clusters of grapes fall off before turning dark because of the excessive rains. They also declared the Sydracae to be descendants of Dionysus, from the vine in their country and their luxurious processions, the kings making their military expeditions and other public appearances in a Bacchic manner with the beating of drums and with flowered robes, a custom which is also prevalent among the other Indians. And when Alexander took at the first assault a certain rock called Aornos, the foot of which the Indus flows past near its sources, they said, exaggerating the achievement, that Heracles had assaulted this rock three times and had been repulsed three times. They also said that the Sibae were descendants of those who had shared in his expedition, preserving symbols of their origin in wearing skins like Heracles, carrying clubs, and having a club branded on their oxen and mules. And they confirm this myth also from the stories about the Caucasus and Prometheus; for they transferred these legends from the Pontus to this place on a slight pretext, having seen a sacred cave in the country of the Paropamisadae; for they declared this to be the prison of Prometheus, and that Heracles had come there for the liberation of Prometheus, and that this was the Caucasus which the Greeks had declared to be the prison of Prometheus.

§15.1.9

Ὅτι δʼ ἐστὶ πλάσματα ταῦτα τῶν κολακευόντων2 Ἀλέξανδρον πρῶτον μὲν ἐκ τοῦ μὴ ὁμολογεῖν ἀλλήλοις τοὺς συγγραφέας δῆλον, ἀλλὰ τοὺς μὲν λέγειν τοὺς δὲ μηδʼ ἁπλῶς μεμνῆσθαι· οὐ γὰρ εἰκὸς τὰ οὕτως ἔνδοξα καὶ τύφου πλήρη μὴ πεπύσθαι, ἢ πεπύσθαι μὲν μὴ ἄξια δὲ μνήμης ὑπολαβεῖν, καὶ ταῦτα τοὺς πιστοτάτους αὐτῶν· ἔπειτα ἐκ τοῦ μηδὲ τοὺς μεταξύ, διʼ ὧν ἐχρῆν τὴν ἐς Ἰνδοὺς ἄφιξιν γενέσθαι τοῖς περὶ τὸν Διόνυσον καὶ τὸν Ἡρακλέα, μηδὲν ἔχειν τεκμήριον δεικνύναι τῆς ἐκείνων ὁδοῦ διὰ τῆς σφετέρας γῆς. καὶ ἡ τοῦ Ἡρακλέους δὲ στολὴ ἡ τοιαύτη πολὺ νεωτέρα τῆς Τρωικῆς μνήμης ἐστί, πλάσμα τῶν τὴν Ἡράκλειαν ποιησάντων, εἴτε Πείσανδρος ἦν εἴτʼ ἄλλος τις· τὰ δʼ ἀρχαῖα ξόανα οὐχ οὕτω διεσκεύασται.

​That these are the fabrications of those who flattered Alexander is clear, first, from the fact that the historians do not agree with one another, but some tell them while others do not even mention them at all; for it is not likely that stories so famous and full of vanity were not heard of, or, if heard of, were not considered worthy of mention, and that too by the most trustworthy of them. Secondly, it is clear from the fact that not even the intermediate nations, through whose country the arrival of Dionysus and Heracles in India must have taken place, have any evidence to show of their passage through their land. And the costume of Heracles, such as it is, is much more recent than the memory of the Trojan War, being a fabrication of those who composed the Heracleia, whether it was Peisander or someone else; for the ancient wooden images are not fashioned in that manner.

Syntax notes2 items
  1. 15.1.8Διονύσου δʼ ἀπογόνους τοὺς Συδράκας

    The verb is omitted in this phrase. One must supply a verb of saying or thinking from the context (such as προσωνόμασαν or ἔφασαν in the preceding or following text) to interpret this as an accusative-and-infinitive construction: "they said that the Sydracae were descendants of Dionysus."

  2. 15.1.9̔́οτι δʼ ἐστὶ πλάσματα ταῦτα τῶν κολακευόντων

    The ὅτι clause stands at the beginning of the sentence and serves as the subject clause of the main adjective δῆλον ("that these are fabrications... is clear"). The copula ἐστί is omitted after δῆλον.

Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-25) · Revision history (1, latest 2026-09-21)
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