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Theaetetus

§209-210

Failure of Logos as Difference and the Conclusion

Socrates and Theaetetus expose the self-contradiction of adding an 'account' of difference to correct opinion, declaring the definition of knowledge as correct opinion with an account to be untenable. Socrates explains the significance of his intellectual midwifery and concludes the day's discussion to attend his trial.

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§209

ΣΩ. φράσω, ἐὰν οἷός τε γένωμαι. ὀρθὴν ἔγωγε ἔχων δόξαν περὶ σοῦ, ἐὰν μὲν προσλάβω τὸν σὸν λόγον, γιγνώσκω δή σε,1 εἰ δὲ μή, δοξάζω μόνον. ΘΕΑΙ. ναί. ΣΩ. λόγος δέ γε ἦν ἡ τῆς σῆς διαφορότητος ἑρμηνεία. ΘΕΑΙ. οὕτως. ΣΩ. ἡνίκʼ οὖν ἐδόξαζον μόνον, ἄλλο τι ᾧ τῶν ἄλλων διαφέρεις, τούτων οὐδενὸς ἡπτόμην τῇ διανοίᾳ; ΘΕΑΙ. οὐκ ἔοικε. ΣΩ. τῶν κοινῶν τι ἄρα διενοούμην, ὧν οὐδὲν σὺ μᾶλλον ἤ τις ἄλλος ἔχει. ΘΕΑΙ. ἀνάγκη. ΣΩ. φέρε δὴ πρὸς Διός· πῶς ποτε ἐν τῷ τοιούτῳ σὲ μᾶλλον ἐδόξαζον ἢ ἄλλον ὁντινοῦν; θὲς γάρ με διανοούμενον ὡς ἔστιν οὗτος Θεαίτητος, ὃς ἂν ᾖ τε ἄνθρωπος καὶ ἔχῃ ῥῖνα καὶ ὀφθαλμοὺς καὶ στόμα καὶ οὕτω δὴ ἓν ἕκαστον τῶν μελῶν. αὕτη οὖν ἡ διάνοια ἔσθʼ ὅτι μᾶλλον ποιήσει με Θεαίτητον ἢ Θεόδωρον διανοεῖσθαι, ἢ τῶν λεγομένων Μυσῶν τὸν ἔσχατον; ΘΕΑΙ. τί γάρ; ΣΩ. ἀλλʼ ἐὰν δὴ μὴ μόνον τὸν ἔχοντα ῥῖνα καὶ ὀφθαλμοὺς διανοηθῶ, ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸν σιμόν τε καὶ ἐξόφθαλμον, μή τι σὲ αὖ μᾶλλον δοξάσω ἢ ἐμαυτὸν ἢ ὅσοι τοιοῦτοι; ΘΕΑΙ. οὐδέν. ΣΩ. ἀλλʼ οὐ πρότερόν γε, οἶμαι, Θεαίτητος ἐν ἐμοὶ δοξασθήσεται, πρὶν ἂν ἡ σιμότης αὕτη τῶν ἄλλων σιμοτήτων ὧν ἐγὼ ἑώρακα διάφορόν τι μνημεῖον παρʼ ἐμοὶ ἐνσημηναμένη κατάθηται2—καὶ τἆλλα οὕτω ἐξ ὧν εἶ σύ—ἥ με, καὶ ἐὰν αὔριον ἀπαντήσω, ἀναμνήσει καὶ ποιήσει ὀρθὰ δοξάζειν περὶ σοῦ. ΘΕΑΙ. ἀληθέστατα. ΣΩ. περὶ τὴν διαφορότητα ἄρα καὶ ἡ ὀρθὴ δόξα ἂν εἴη ἑκάστου πέρι. ΘΕΑΙ. φαίνεταί γε. ΣΩ. τὸ οὖν προσλαβεῖν λόγον τῇ ὀρθῇ δόξῃ τί ἂν ἔτι εἴη; εἰ μὲν γὰρ προσδοξάσαι λέγει ᾗ διαφέρει τι τῶν ἄλλων, πάνυ γελοία γίγνεται ἡ ἐπίταξις. ΘΕΑΙ. πῶς; ΣΩ. ὧν ὀρθὴν δόξαν3 ἔχομεν ᾗ τῶν ἄλλων διαφέρει, τούτων προσλαβεῖν κελεύει ἡμᾶς ὀρθὴν δόξαν ᾗ τῶν ἄλλων διαφέρει. καὶ οὕτως ἡ μὲν σκυτάλης ἢ ὑπέρου ἢ ὅτου δὴ λέγεται περιτροπὴ πρὸς ταύτην τὴν ἐπίταξιν οὐδὲν ἂν λέγοι, τυφλοῦ δὲ παρακέλευσις ἂν καλοῖτο δικαιότερον· τὸ γάρ, ἃ ἔχομεν, ταῦτα προσλαβεῖν κελεύειν, ἵνα μάθωμεν ἃ δοξάζομεν, πάνυ γενναίως ἔοικεν ἐσκοτωμένῳ. ΘΕΑΙ. εἰπὲ δὴ τί νυνδὴ ὡς ἐρῶν ἐπύθου;

SOCRATES: I will tell you, if I am able. If I have a correct opinion about you, and if I add your account to it, then indeed I know you, but if not, I only opine. THEAETETUS: Yes. SOCRATES: And the “account” was the exposition of your difference. THEAETETUS: It was. SOCRATES: When, therefore, I was only opining, did I not grasp in my thought any of the things by which you differ from others? THEAETETUS: It seems not. SOCRATES: Then I was thinking of some of the common things, none of which you possess any more than anyone else. THEAETETUS: Necessarily. SOCRATES: Come then, by Zeus! How in such a case did I opine you more than any other person? For suppose me thinking that “this is Theaetetus, whoever is a man and has a nose, eyes, mouth, and each of the limbs in this way.” Will this thought make me think of Theaetetus any more than of Theodorus, or of the lowest of the so-called Mysians? THEAETETUS: How could it? SOCRATES: But if indeed I think not only of one having a nose and eyes, but also of one who is snub-nosed and has prominent eyes, shall I any more opine you than myself or whoever are like this? THEAETETUS: Not at all. SOCRATES: But, I think, Theaetetus will not be opined in me until this snub-nosedness has stamped and deposited within me a distinctive memory different from the other snub-nosednesses I have seen—and similarly with the other things from which you are made—which, even if I meet you tomorrow, will remind me and make me hold a correct opinion about you. THEAETETUS: Most true. SOCRATES: Correct opinion, then, would also be about the difference of each thing. THEAETETUS: So it appears. SOCRATES: Then what would “adding an account” to correct opinion still mean? For if it means to opine in addition how something differs from other things, the command becomes utterly ridiculous. THEAETETUS: How so? SOCRATES: Of things of which we have a correct opinion as to how they differ from other things, it commands us to add a correct opinion as to how they differ from other things. And so, the turning around of a pestle or a mortar or whatever they say would be nothing compared to this command; it would more justly be called the advice of a blind man. For to command us to add what we already have, in order to learn what we opine, seems thoroughly like one in the dark. THEAETETUS: Tell me then, what was it you were asking just now, as if you were going to say something?

§210

ΣΩ. εἰ τὸ λόγον, ὦ παῖ, προσλαβεῖν γνῶναι κελεύει, ἀλλὰ μὴ δοξάσαι τὴν διαφορότητα, ἡδὺ χρῆμʼ ἂν εἴη τοῦ καλλίστου τῶν περὶ ἐπιστήμης λόγου. τὸ γὰρ γνῶναι ἐπιστήμην που λαβεῖν ἐστιν· ἦ γάρ; ΘΕΑΙ. ναί. ΣΩ. οὐκοῦν ἐρωτηθείς, ὡς ἔοικε, τί ἐστιν ἐπιστήμη, ἀποκρινεῖται ὅτι δόξα ὀρθὴ μετὰ ἐπιστήμης διαφορότητος.4 λόγου γὰρ πρόσληψις τοῦτʼ ἂν εἴη κατʼ ἐκεῖνον. ΘΕΑΙ. ἔοικεν. ΣΩ. καὶ παντάπασί γε εὔηθες, ζητούντων ἡμῶν ἐπιστήμην, δόξαν φάναι ὀρθὴν εἶναι μετʼ ἐπιστήμης εἴτε διαφορότητος εἴτε ὁτουοῦν. οὔτε ἄρα αἴσθησις, ὦ Θεαίτητε, οὔτε δόξα ἀληθὴς οὔτε μετʼ ἀληθοῦς δόξης λόγος προσγιγνόμενος ἐπιστήμη ἂν εἴη. ΘΕΑΙ. οὐκ ἔοικεν. ΣΩ. ἦ οὖν ἔτι κυοῦμέν τι καὶ ὠδίνομεν, ὦ φίλε, περὶ ἐπιστήμης, ἢ πάντα ἐκτετόκαμεν; ΘΕΑΙ. καὶ ναὶ μὰ Δίʼ ἔγωγε πλείω ἢ ὅσα εἶχον ἐν ἐμαυτῷ διὰ σὲ εἴρηκα. ΣΩ. οὐκοῦν ταῦτα μὲν πάντα ἡ μαιευτικὴ ἡμῖν τέχνη ἀνεμιαῖά φησι γεγενῆσθαι καὶ οὐκ ἄξια τροφῆς;παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. ΣΩ. ἐὰν τοίνυν ἄλλων μετὰ ταῦτα ἐγκύμων ἐπιχειρῇς γίγνεσθαι, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἐάντε γίγνῃ, βελτιόνων ἔσῃ πλήρης διὰ τὴν νῦν ἐξέτασιν, ἐάντε κενὸς ᾖς, ἧττον ἔσῃ βαρὺς τοῖς συνοῦσι καὶ ἡμερώτερος σωφρόνως οὐκ οἰόμενος εἰδέναι ἃ μὴ οἶσθα.5 τοσοῦτον γὰρ μόνον ἡ ἐμὴ τέχνη δύναται, πλέον δὲ οὐδέν, οὐδέ τι οἶδα ὧν οἱ ἄλλοι, ὅσοι μεγάλοι καὶ θαυμάσιοι ἄνδρες εἰσί τε καὶ γεγόνασιν· τὴν δὲ μαιείαν ταύτην ἐγώ τε καὶ ἡ μήτηρ ἐκ θεοῦ ἐλάχομεν, ἡ μὲν τῶν γυναικῶν, ἐγὼ δὲ τῶν νέων τε καὶ γενναίων καὶ ὅσοι καλοί. νῦν μὲν οὖν ἀπαντητέον μοι εἰς τὴν τοῦ βασιλέως στοὰν ἐπὶ τὴν Μελήτου γραφὴν ἥν με γέγραπται· ἕωθεν δέ, ὦ Θεόδωρε, δεῦρο πάλιν ἀπαντῶμεν.

​SOCRATES: If, my boy, commanding us to “add an account” means to “know” the difference, and not to “opine” it, it would be a delightful thing in the most beautiful discussion about knowledge. For to “know” is surely to “acquire knowledge”, is it not? THEAETETUS: Yes. SOCRATES: Therefore, when asked, it seems, what knowledge is, one will answer that it is correct opinion with knowledge of difference. For according to that view, this would be the addition of an account. THEAETETUS: It seems so. SOCRATES: And it is completely foolish, when we are seeking knowledge, to say that it is correct opinion with knowledge, whether of difference or of anything else. Therefore, neither perception, Theaetetus, nor true opinion, nor an account added to true opinion, would be knowledge. THEAETETUS: It seems not. SOCRATES: Are we, then, still pregnant and in labor, my friend, concerning knowledge, or have we brought everything to birth? THEAETETUS: Yes, by Zeus, I indeed have said through you more than I had in myself. SOCRATES: Does our art of midwifery, then, say that all these things have turned out to be wind-eggs and not worth rearing? THEAETETUS: Absolutely so. SOCRATES: If, then, after this you should attempt to become pregnant with other things, Theaetetus, and if you do, you will be full of better things because of the present examination; and if you remain empty, you will be less heavy to your companions and gentler, soberly not thinking you know what you do not know. For my art can do only this much, and nothing more; nor do I know any of the things that others know, who are and have been great and wonderful men. But this art of midwifery, both I and my mother received from God—she for women, and I for the young and noble and all who are beautiful. Now, indeed, I must go to the King’s Porch to meet the indictment of Meletus which he has drawn up against me; but tomorrow morning, Theodorus, let us meet here again.

Syntax notes5 items
  1. 209aὀρθὴν ἔγωγε ἔχων δόξαν... ἐὰν μὲν προσλάβω τὸν σὸν λόγον, γιγνώσκω δή σε

    A structure combining a conditional clause and a participle. The participle ἔχων expresses condition ('if I have...'), working in tandem with the conditional clause (ἐὰν μὲν προσλάβω) to establish the prerequisite circumstances.

  2. 209cπρὶν ἂν ἡ σιμότης … κατάθηται

    The construction using πρὶν ἄν with the subjunctive (κατάθηται). Since there is a negative in the main clause (οὐ πρότερόν γε), it means 'not... until' (i.e., only when this happens will the other occur).

  3. 209dὧν ὀρθὴν δόξαν ἔχομεν ᾗ τῶν ἄλλων διαφέρει, τούτων προσλαβεῖν κελεύει ἡμᾶς ὀρθὴν δόξαν

    The relative pronoun ὧν is in the genitive case due to attraction to its antecedent τούτων (which is governed by the genitive-taking verb or functions as genitive), whereas syntactically it functions as the direct object (accusative) of ἔχομεν.

  4. 210aδόξα ὀρθὴ μετὰ ἐπιστήμης διαφορότητος

    The genitive ἐπιστήμης is an objective genitive modifying διαφορότητος ('knowledge of difference').

  5. 210cἧττον ἔσῃ βαρὺς … ἃ μὴ οἶσθα

    The participle οἰόμενος, together with the adverb σωφρόνως and the negation οὐκ, expresses condition or manner ('by soberly not thinking...'). It coordinates with the preceding comparative adjectives βαρὺς and ἡμερώτερος.

Translated by Gemini 3.5 Flash (published 2026-05-22)urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg006.humanitext-grc2:209-210