- Source
- Demosthenes. Orationes, Vol. I. Butcher, S. H., editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1903.
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- urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0014.tlg016.humanitext-grc2:1-9
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-10-26
The speaker criticizes the biased stances of Athenian orators and argues that supporting Megalopolis to prevent both Thebes and Sparta from becoming too powerful is crucial for Athens' security.
ἀμφότεροί μοι δοκοῦσιν ἁμαρτάνειν, ὦ ἄνδρες Ἀθηναῖοι, καὶ οἱ τοῖς Ἀρκάσι καὶ οἱ τοῖς Λακεδαιμονίοις συνειρηκότες· ὥσπερ γὰρ ἀφʼ ἑκατέρων ἥκοντες, οὐχ ὑμῶν ὄντες, πρὸς οὓς ἀμφότεροι πρεσβεύουσι, κατηγοροῦσι καὶ διαβάλλουσιν ἀλλήλους. ἦν δὲ1 τοῦτο μὲν τῶν ἀφιγμένων ἔργον, τὸ δὲ κοινῶς ὑπὲρ τῶν πραγμάτων λέγειν καὶ τὰ βέλτισθʼ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν σκοπεῖν ἄνευ φιλονικίας τῶν ἐνθάδε συμβουλεύειν ἀξιούντων.
Both sides seem to me to be in error, men of Athens—both those who have spoken on behalf of the Arcadians and those on behalf of the Lacedaemonians. For as if they had come from either of the two parties, and were not of your city, to whom both are sending embassies, they accuse and slander one another. But while this was the proper task of those who have arrived, to speak impartially on behalf of the public affairs and to consider what is best for you without rivalry was the duty of those who claim to advise you here.
νῦν δʼ ἔγωγε, εἴ τις αὐτῶν ἀφέλοι τὸ γιγνώσκεσθαι καὶ τὸ τῇ φωνῇ λέγειν Ἀττικιστί, πολλοὺς ἂν οἶμαι τοὺς μὲν Ἀρκάδας, τοὺς δὲ Λάκωνας αὐτῶν εἶναι νομίσαι.2 ἐγὼ δʼ ὁρῶ μὲν ὡς χαλεπὸν τὰ βέλτιστα λέγειν ἐστί· συνεξηπατημένων γὰρ ὑμῶν, καὶ τῶν μὲν ταυτί, τῶν δὲ ταυτὶ βουλομένων, ἂν τὰ μεταξύ τις ἐγχειρῇ λέγειν κᾆθʼ ὑμεῖς μὴ περιμένητε μαθεῖν, χαριεῖται μὲν οὐδετέροις, διαβεβλήσεται δὲ πρὸς ἀμφοτέρους·
But as it is, for my part, if one were to take away from them their being known and their speaking in the Attic dialect, I think many of them would be considered by you to be Arcadians, and others to be Lacedaemonians. I see, indeed, how difficult it is to advise what is best; for since you have been mutually deceived, some desiring this and others that, if anyone attempts to propose a middle course and then you do not wait to understand it, he will please neither party and will be slandered by both.
οὐ μὴν ἀλλʼ αἱρήσομαι μᾶλλον αὐτός, ἂν ἄρα τοῦτο πάθω, δοκεῖν φλυαρεῖν, ἢ παρʼ ἃ βέλτιστα νομίζω τῇ πόλει, προέσθαι τισὶν ὑμᾶς ἐξαπατῆσαι.3 τὰ μὲν οὖν ἄλλʼ ὕστερον, ἂν ὑμῖν βουλομένοις ᾖ, λέξω· ἀπὸ δὲ τῶν ὁμολογουμένων ὑφʼ ἁπάντων ἄρξομαι, ἃ κράτιστα νομίζω διδάσκειν.
Nevertheless, I will rather choose myself, if indeed I should suffer this, to be thought to talk nonsense than, contrary to what I believe is best for the state, to allow certain men to deceive you. The other matters, then, I will speak of later, if it is your wish; but I will begin with what is agreed upon by all, which I think is the best way to instruct you.
οὐκοῦν οὐδʼ ἂν εἷς ἀντείποι ὡς οὐ συμφέρει τῇ πόλει καὶ Λακεδαιμονίους ἀσθενεῖς εἶναι καὶ Θηβαίους τουτουσί. ἔστι τοίνυν ἔν τινι τοιούτῳ καιρῷ τὰ πράγματα νῦν, εἴ τι δεῖ τοῖς εἰρημένοις πολλάκις παρʼ ὑμῖν λόγοις τεκμήρασθαι, ὥστε Θηβαίους μὲν Ὀρχομενοῦ καὶ Θεσπιῶν καὶ Πλαταιῶν οἰκισθεισῶν ἀσθενεῖς γενέσθαι, Λακεδαιμονίους δʼ, εἰ ποιήσονται τὴν Ἀρκαδίαν ὑφʼ ἑαυτοῖς καὶ Μεγάλην πόλιν ἀναιρήσουσι, πάλιν ἰσχυροὺς γενήσεσθαι.
Surely, not a single person would deny that it is to the advantage of the state that both the Lacedaemonians and these Thebans here should be weak. Now affairs are in such a critical state, if one must judge by the speeches often delivered before you, that the Thebans will become weak through the rebuilding of Orchomenus, Thespiae, and Plataea, but the Lacedaemonians, if they bring Arcadia under their control and destroy Megalopolis, will become powerful once more.
σκεπτέον τοίνυν μὴ πρότερον τούσδε γενέσθαι φοβεροὺς καὶ μεγάλους ἐάσωμεν ἢ4 ʼκεῖνοι μικροὶ γεγενήσονται, καὶ λάθωσιν ἡμᾶς πλείονι μείζους οἱ Λακεδαιμόνιοι γενόμενοι ἢ ὅσῳ τοὺς Θηβαίους ἐλάττους συμφέρει γενέσθαι. οὐ γὰρ ἐκεῖνό γʼ ἂν εἴποιμεν, ὡς ἀνταλλάξασθαι βουλοίμεθʼ ἂν ἀντιπάλους Λακεδαιμονίους ἀντὶ Θηβαίων, οὐδὲ τοῦτʼ ἔσθʼ ὃ σπουδάζομεν, ἀλλʼ ὅπως μηδέτεροι δυνήσονται μηδὲν ἡμᾶς ἀδικεῖν· οὕτω γὰρ ἂν ἡμεῖς μετὰ πλείστης ἀδείας εἴημεν.
We must therefore take care lest we permit the latter to become formidable and great before the former have been made small, and lest the Lacedaemonians should secretly become greater than it is advantageous for the Thebans to be made smaller. For we would certainly not say that we wish to exchange the Lacedaemonians as rivals in place of the Thebans, nor is this what we are striving for, but rather that neither side may be able to do us any wrong; for in this way we would enjoy the greatest security.
ἀλλὰ νὴ Δία ταῦτα μὲν οὕτως δεῖν ἔχειν φήσομεν, δεινὸν δʼ εἰ, πρὸς οὓς παρεταττόμεθʼ ἐν Μαντινείᾳ, τούτους συμμάχους αἱρησόμεθα, εἶτα βοηθήσομεν τούτοις ἐναντίʼ ἐκείνοις μεθʼ ὧν τότʼ ἐκινδυνεύομεν. κἀμοὶ ταῦτα δοκεῖ, προσδεῖσθαι δʼ ἔτι τοῦ5 τὰ δίκαια ποιεῖν ἐθελόντων τῶν ἑτέρων.
But, by Zeus, we will say that these things ought to be so, yet that it is shocking if we choose as allies those against whom we were drawn up at Mantinea, and then assist them against those with whom we then shared dangers. I also hold this view, but with the additional proviso that the other side must also be willing to act justly.
εἰ μὲν τοίνυν ἐθελήσουσιν εἰρήνην ἅπαντες ἄγειν, οὐ βοηθήσομεν τοῖς Μεγαλοπολίταις· οὐδὲν γὰρ δεήσει· ὥστʼ οὐδʼ ὁτιοῦν ὑπεναντίον ἡμῖν ἔσται πρὸς τοὺς συμπαραταξαμένους, σύμμαχοι δʼ ἡμῖν οἱ μὲν ὑπάρχουσιν, ὥς φασιν, οἱ δὲ προσγενήσονται νυνί.
If, therefore, all are willing to keep peace, we will not assist the Megalopolitans, for there will be no need; so there will be nothing at all contrary to our relations with those who fought by our side, and some are already our allies, as they say, while others will be added now.
καὶ τί ἂν ἄλλο βουλοίμεθα; ἐὰν δʼ ἀδικῶσι καὶ πολεμεῖν οἴωνται δεῖν, εἰ μὲν ὑπὲρ τούτου μόνον βουλευτέον, εἰ χρὴ Μεγάλην πόλιν ἡμᾶς προέσθαι Λακεδαιμονίοις ἢ μή, δίκαιον μὲν οὔ, συγχωρῶ δʼ ἔγωγʼ ἐᾶσαι καὶ μηδὲν ἐναντιωθῆναι τοῖς γε τῶν αὐτῶν μετασχοῦσι κινδύνων· εἰ δʼ ἅπαντες ἐπίστασθʼ ὅτι, ταύτην ἂν ἕλωσιν, ἴασʼ ἐπὶ Μεσσήνην, φρασάτω τις ἐμοὶ τῶν νῦν χαλεπῶν τοῖς Μεγαλοπολίταις, τί τόθʼ ἡμῖν συμβουλεύσει ποιεῖν.
And what else could we desire? But if they act unjustly and think they must wage war, then if we only have to deliberate on this point—whether we ought to abandon Megalopolis to the Lacedaemonians or not—although it is not just, I for my part agree to let it go and offer no opposition to those who shared the same dangers; but if you all know that, if they capture this city, they will march against Messene, let anyone of those who are now harsh toward the Megalopolitans tell me what he will then advise us to do.
ἀλλʼ οὐδεὶς ἐρεῖ. καὶ μὴν πάντες ἐπίστασθʼ ὡς, καὶ παραινούντων τούτων καὶ μή, βοηθητέον, καὶ διὰ τοὺς ὅρκους οὓς ὀμωμόκαμεν Μεσσηνίοις, καὶ διὰ τὸ συμφέρον εἶναι κατοικεῖσθαι ταύτην τὴν πόλιν. σκοπεῖσθε δὴ πρὸς ὑμᾶς αὐτοὺς ποτέραν τὴν ἀρχὴν καλλίονα καὶ φιλανθρωποτέραν ποιήσεσθε τοῦ μὴ ʼπιτρέπειν ἀδικεῖν Λακεδαιμονίοις, τὴν ὑπὲρ Μεγάλης πόλεως ἢ τὴν ὑπὲρ Μεσσήνης.
But no one will say. Indeed, you all know that, whether these men advise it or not, we must bring aid, both because of the oaths we have sworn to the Messenians and because of the advantage of this city being inhabited. Consider then within yourselves which is the more honorable and generous starting point for not permitting the Lacedaemonians to commit injustice: the one on behalf of Megalopolis or the one on behalf of Messene.
- 1ἦν δὲ
The imperfect ἦν expresses a past obligation or what would have been appropriate under the circumstances, implying that the actual situation is contrary to this ideal.
- 2πολλοὺς ἂν οἶμαι ... νομίσαι
The infinitive νομίσαι is governed by οἶμαι in an accusative-and-infinitive construction. The particle ἂν belongs to νομίσαι, giving it a potential force ('you would think'). The implied subject of the infinitive is 'you'.
- 3προέσθαι τισὶν ὑμᾶς ἐξαπατῆσαι
The infinitive προέσθαι here has the sense of 'to permit' or 'to abandon', followed by the accusative object ὑμᾶς and the supplementary infinitive ἐξαπατῆσαι. The dative τισὶν acts as the agent (subject) of the deception.
- 5μὴ πρότερον ... ἐάσωμεν ἢ ...
This introduces a clause of precaution or fear with μὴ after the verbal adjective σκεπτέον. The construction πρότερον... ἢ means 'before...' or 'rather than...', governing the subjunctives ἐάσωμεν and λάθωσιν.
- 6προσδεῖσθαι δʼ ἔτι τοῦ
Since προσδεῖσθαι ('to require in addition') governs the genitive, it is construed here with the genitive article τοῦ, which substantivizes the following genitive absolute clause τὰ δίκαια ποιεῖν ἐθελόντων τῶν ἑτέρων.
