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- Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).
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- Humanitext Reader · reader.humanitext.ai · 2026-11-05
Alcibiades argues for the geopolitical necessity of aiding allies to preserve and expand the empire, urging the Athenians to carry out the Sicilian expedition to prevent the city from stagnating and wearing itself out through inactivity.
ὥστε τί ἂν λέγοντες εἰκὸς ἢ αὐτοὶ ἀποκνοῖμεν1 ἢ πρὸς τοὺς ἐκεῖ ξυμμάχους σκηπτόμενοι μὴ βοηθοῖμεν; οἷς χρεών, ἐπειδή γε καὶ ξυνωμόσαμεν, ἐπαμύνειν, καὶ μὴ ἀντιτιθέναι ὅτι οὐδὲ ἐκεῖνοι ἡμῖν. οὐ γὰρ ἵνα δεῦρο ἀντιβοηθῶσι προσεθέμεθα αὐτούς, ἀλλ’ ἵνα τοῖς ἐκεῖ ἐχθροῖς ἡμῶν λυπηροὶ ὄντες δεῦρο κωλύωσιν αὐτοὺς ἐπιέναι.
”Therefore, what reasonable thing could we say to hold back ourselves, or what excuse could we make to our allies there for not helping them? We are bound to defend them, especially since we have sworn oaths to them, and not to object that they have not helped us in return. For we did not ally with them so that they might come here to help us in return, but so that by causing trouble for our enemies there, they might prevent them from coming here.
τήν τε ἀρχὴν οὕτως ἐκτησάμεθα καὶ ἡμεῖς καὶ ὅσοι δὴ ἄλλοι ἦρξαν, παραγιγνόμενοι προθύμως τοῖς αἰεὶ ἢ βαρβάροις ἢ Ἕλλησιν ἐπικαλουμένοις, ἐπεὶ εἴ γε ἡσυχάζοιεν πάντες ἢ φυλοκρινοῖεν οἷς χρεὼν βοηθεῖν, βραχὺ ἄν τι προσκτώμενοι αὐτῇ περὶ αὐτῆς ἂν ταύτης μᾶλλον κινδυνεύοιμεν.2 τὸν γὰρ προύχοντα οὐ μόνον ἐπιόντα τις ἀμύνεται, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅπως μὴ ἔπεισι προκαταλαμβάνει.
It was in this way that we and all others who have ever ruled acquired our empire, by readily coming to the aid of those, whether barbarians or Greeks, who from time to time called upon us. For if all were to remain quiet or to make distinctions based on race as to whom they ought to help, we would add but little to our empire and would rather run the risk of losing this very empire itself. For one does not only defend oneself against a superior power when it attacks, but also takes precautions beforehand so that it will not attack.
καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἡμῖν ταμιεύεσθαι ἐς ὅσον βουλόμεθα ἄρχειν, ἀλλ’ ἀνάγκη, ἐπειδήπερ ἐν τῷδε καθέσταμεν, τοῖς μὲν ἐπιβουλεύειν, τοὺς δὲ μὴ ἀνιέναι, διὰ τὸ ἀρχθῆναι ἂν ὑφ᾽ ἑτέρων αὐτοῖς κίνδυνον εἶναι,3 εἰ μὴ αὐτοὶ ἄλλων ἄρχοιμεν. καὶ οὐκ ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐπισκεπτέον ὑμῖν τοῖς ἄλλοις τὸ ἥσυχον, εἰ μὴ καὶ τὰ ἐπιτηδεύματα ἐς τὸ ὁμοῖον μεταλήψεσθε.
And it is not possible for us to regulate the extent to which we wish to rule, but since we have established ourselves in this position, it is necessary for us to plot against some and not to let go of others, because there is a danger of our being ruled by others if we ourselves do not rule over others. And you must not look upon quietness from the same viewpoint as others, unless you are also going to change your habits to match theirs.
‘λογισάμενοι οὖν τάδε μᾶλλον αὐξήσειν, ἐπ’ ἐκεῖνα ἢν ἴωμεν, ποιώμεθα τὸν πλοῦν, ἵνα Πελοποννησίων τε στορέσωμεν τὸ φρόνημα, εἰ δόξομεν ὑπεριδόντες τὴν ἐν τῷ παρόντι ἡσυχίαν καὶ ἐπὶ Σικελίαν πλεῦσαι· καὶ ἅμα ἢ τῆς Ἑλλάδος τῶν ἐκεῖ προσγενομένων πάσης τῷ εἰκότι ἄρξομεν, ἢ κακώσομέν γε Συρακοσίους, ἐν ᾧ καὶ αὐτοὶ καὶ οἱ ξύμμαχοι ὠφελησόμεθα.
Therefore, reckoning that we shall rather increase our power at home if we go there, let us make the voyage, in order that we may humble the pride of the Peloponnesians, if we are seen to disregard the present quietness and sail even against Sicily. And at the same time, we shall in all probability either rule over the whole of Greece by adding those there to us, or at least we shall do harm to the Syracusans, by which both we ourselves and our allies will be benefited.
τὸ δὲ ἀσφαλές, καὶ μένειν, ἤν τι προχωρῇ, καὶ ἀπελθεῖν, αἱ νῆες παρέξουσιν· ναυκράτορες γὰρ ἐσόμεθα καὶ ξυμπάντων Σικελιωτῶν.
And as for safety, both to remain if anything goes well and to depart, our ships will provide this; for we shall be masters of the sea even over all the Siceliots.
καὶ μὴ ὑμᾶς ἡ Νικίου τῶν λόγων ἀπραγμοσύνη καὶ διάστασις τοῖς νέοις ἐς τοὺς πρεσβυτέρους ἀποτρέψῃ, τῷ δὲ εἰωθότι κόσμῳ, ὥσπερ καὶ οἱ πατέρες ἡμῶν ἅμα νέοι γεραιτέροις βουλεύοντες ἐς τάδε ἦραν αὐτά, καὶ νῦν τῷ αὐτῷ τρόπῳ πειρᾶσθε προαγαγεῖν τὴν πόλιν, καὶ νομίσατε νεότητα μὲν καὶ γῆρας ἄνευ ἀλλήλων μηδὲν δύνασθαι, ὁμοῦ δὲ τό τε φαῦλον καὶ τὸ μέσον καὶ τὸ πάνυ ἀκριβὲς ἂν ξυγκραθὲν μάλιστ’ ἂν ἰσχύειν, καὶ τὴν πόλιν, ἐὰν μὲν ἡσυχάζῃ, τρίψεσθαί τε αὐτὴν περὶ αὑτὴν4 ὥσπερ καὶ ἄλλο τι, καὶ πάντων τὴν ἐπιστήμην ἐγγηράσεσθαι, ἀγωνιζομένην δὲ αἰεὶ προσλήψεσθαί τε τὴν ἐμπειρίαν καὶ τὸ ἀμύνεσθαι οὐ λόγῳ ἀλλ’ ἔργῳ μᾶλλον ξύνηθες ἕξειν.
And do not let the inactivity preached in Nicias’ speeches or his division of the young against the elder men turn you away, but in the accustomed order, just as our fathers, both young and old consulting together, raised our power to these heights, try now in the same way to advance the city. And believe that youth and old age can do nothing without each other, but that the ordinary, the average, and the highly refined, when blended together, will have the greatest strength, and that the city, if it remains quiet, will wear itself out against itself like anything else, and its knowledge in all things will grow old, whereas if it is always striving, it will constantly acquire experience and will make defending itself more habitual, not in word but rather in deed.
παράπαν τε γιγνώσκω πόλιν μὴ ἀπράγμονα τάχιστ’ ἄν μοι δοκεῖν ἀπραγμοσύνης μεταβολῇ διαφθαρῆναι, καὶ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἀσφαλέστατα τούτους οἰκεῖν οἳ ἂν τοῖς παροῦσιν ἤθεσι καὶ νόμοις, ἢν καὶ χείρω ᾖ, ἥκιστα διαφόρως πολιτεύωσιν.’
In short, I judge that a city that is active would be most quickly ruined by a change to inactivity, and that those men live most securely who conduct their public life in least disagreement with their established habits and laws, even if they are somewhat inferior.”
- 6.18.1τί ἂν λέγοντες εἰκὸς ... ἀποκνοῖμεν
The participle λέγοντες in τί ἂν λέγοντες has a conditional force, modifying the potential optative with ἄν (ἂν ... ἀποκνοῖμεν). It forms a double conditional structure meaning 'if we were to say something, what reasonable excuse could we offer to justify our hesitation?'
- 6.18.2περὶ αὐτής ἂν ταύτης μᾶλλον κινδυνεύοιμεν
The demonstrative αὐτής ταύτης refers back to the preceding τῇ ἀρχῇ (empire). It emphasizes the contrast that, far from acquiring new territory (προσκτώμενοι), we would rather run the risk of losing the existence of the empire itself.
- 6.18.3διὰ τὸ ἀρχθῆναι ἂν ὑφ᾽ ἑτέρων αὐτοῖς κίνδυνον εἶναι
Inside the articular infinitive construction introduced by διά (διὰ τὸ ... εἶναι), an accusative with infinitive clause (κίνδυνον εἶναι) is embedded. Furthermore, the infinitive ἀρχθῆναι is accompanied by the particle ἄν (potential infinitive), representing a potentiality that would be expressed as ἄρχοιμεν. ἄν in the optative ('we might be ruled by others').
- 6.18.6τρίψεσθαί τε αὐτὴν περὶ αὑτὴν
The future infinitive τρίψεσθαι is used in an intransitive or reflexive sense, with τὴν πόλιν as its subject. It is a metaphorical expression meaning that if the city remains quiet, it will 'wear itself out against itself' (internally rub itself away).
